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發表於 13-11-26 17:08 |只看該作者 |倒序瀏覽 |打印
I am going to purchase a UK property but have no experience.
Which identity (UK citizen or HK people) is better to use in consideration of tax?
Any tax such as VAT will be incurred other than the stamp duty?

Thanks
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本帖最後由 skIII 於 13-11-26 19:42 編輯
bigfoothk 發表於 13-11-26 17:17
看親子王國,媽媽會所,分類英國,有教用方法,買property
所以關於店家天花亂墜所說的退稅方式
參考就好

買property冇得退稅,不過冇vat,律師收費有vat,以往non resident售樓唔駛比増值稅,另外租金收入亦唔駛即時扣稅,不過佢啲政策成日變,最好先搵個會計師查詢。


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本帖最後由 Tommy 於 13-11-26 23:28 編輯

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係英國買樓其實好簡單,買家唔使比經紀佣,唔使落訂金;於交樓之前七至十日才需要比樓價一成,甚至全數樓價於成交之前一兩天才一次過比晒,視乎雙方律師的協議。

基本上買賣雙方可以於成交之前取消合約而無需承擔法律責任,唯一的支出就只是按比例交付已完成的法律程序的相關費用。但英國人好均真,無香港人咁偽善古惑,除非樓房真的有什麼問題,否則極少人會濫用這個機制去渾水摸魚。

英國人一般人工高,但在英國置業的律師費用卻比香港平宜,就算加了20%的VAT都不見得比香港的昂貴,真係唔明白點解香港的律師成日鬼殺咁嘈話無淡好食,要回復最低收費云云。

如果正正經經,買間一般人住的自住樓英國的Stamp Duty甚至比香港平宜。不過,如果以公司名義購買貴重的豪宅,Stamp Duty 可以去到15%,香港的甚麼雙重印花稅、特別印花稅都要望塵莫及。

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發表於 13-11-26 23:17 |只看該作者
多謝各位的寶貴意見,沒有VAT都放心些。律師費用相當滿意,只不過要填不少文件好煩。

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本帖最後由 Tommy 於 13-11-26 23:25 編輯

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回答您的問題,如果純粹考慮Capital Gains Tax,當然是以英國公民身份去購買較為有利。英國人唔會歧視外國人,但如果任何人出售他「唯一的主要自住物業」,而又唔大過五千平方米,基本上是可以括免該項物業的Capital Gains Tax。

如果您是外國人,根本不能長期在英國居留,咁您就無法証明出售的物業是您 「唯一的主要自住物業」,咁當然要交稅喇!但即使需要徵收稅項,都會有扣減機制;如果您唔係賺大錢,其實要交的Capital Gains Tax都唔會好多。

資產增值稅,絕對唔係香港的高級華人所講到咁恐佈!



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Tommy, 我以前已看了你不少帖子,你學識真廣。我只是一介平民capital gain tax 絶對冇膽心。只是為了兒女才有此計劃。長遠對香港沒有信心。

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Don't forget to ask whether the property is "chain free" or not before you make any decision.  The transaction time can be soooooooooo much longer than HK.


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bigfoothk 發表於 13-11-26 23:46
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想請教,在現在情况下,租房抵定買樓好(12.5港元:1英鎊)?如買校園附近比市區相差多少? ...
買樓抑或租樓?呢個係好個人的決定,有太多個別因素要考慮,真係唔識答,亦唔敢亂作建議。

如果撇開個人因素,純粹睇經濟因素和英國的樓價,現在都是在英國置業的好時機。當人人在議論歐債危機時,英國的物業市道,在今年二、三月啟動,首先由倫敦開始,慢慢向北部擴散,醞釀了差不多半年,到了八、九月,成交突然急增,開始了明顯的升勢。

英國多項數據確認了經濟復穌,連續八個月錄得經濟增長,失業率降至三年新低,只有7.6%,英國央行更大幅上調經濟增長預測…………


現在人人唱好中國,但我卻認為鐘擺開始轉向。

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GandB 發表於 13-11-26 23:17
多謝各位的寶貴意見,沒有VAT都放心些。律師費用相當滿意,只不過要填不少文件好煩。 ...
You consider to buy it for own use or buy and rent, if latter one, you also need to consider VAT of the agency fee.

What's your plan of mortgage? Different purposes, different mortgage rates.

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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When HK property market is crazy, overseas investments are good but take longer time and as you said follow the local economic cycle.
Two years ago, even better timing for UK property, 6.5-7.5% yield in central London.
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 13-11-28 01:35 |只看該作者
I have heard there are ways that you can save money when wiring money over....i can ask my friend for you if you are interested to know more.

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發表於 13-11-28 19:14 |只看該作者
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It is for own use and consider 70% mortgage .

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發表於 13-11-30 04:58 |只看該作者
If you buy a UK property, there's a difference buying between from HK and UK,

If it is in UK, most of them are new development, some still in construction stage, some are ready built. They usually provide a very good service, that includes sorting your mortgage out (70%), all legal paper work, and also rent out service

However, if you decide to fly into uK and buy property, you will find it difficult to get a mortgage locally. You know need to be a uK citizen or a permanent residence to get a mortgage. therefore, if you go to a property agent for UK property, and they will ask you a few questions:
Buy for own use or buy to let?
Mortgage: as you will require mortgage outside UK, you are considered as a cash buyer and no-chain
Leasehold or Freehold : that is mostly concerning if you are buying a flat, a house etc (please do research as it is quite a lengthy topic)

I live in UK and owned 2 properties at the moment. one is buy to let and one I live in myself

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Hi, there is 1 property on sale in Salford, Manchester (called Spectrum) now, anybody has some info on this? I'm thinking of buy 1 for rent. It's around GBP 170-200 for 6xx-7xx feet. The agent said the rental fees is around GBP7xx-8xx p.a. Management fees will around GBP15xx p.a., letting service is around GBP1xxx & ground rent is around GBP2xx p.a. The property is ready right now but the location is not very close to the town centre.

My friend suggested me NOT to invested in Manchester as it has too many foodball match there (i.e. 太 雜) which I 'm not sure it is right or not. Any idea?

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發表於 13-12-1 12:15 |只看該作者
Just a piece of information passing me by ...... Although the info was dated back to March 2013, hopefully it would be useful for your reference:

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雖然港人買倫敦樓的已經不是甚麼新鮮事,早在97年曹sir曹仁超掃入倫敦房地產亦都係廣為人知的事實。那麼倫敦樓是否已經炒到天價,全無水位呢?
從來倫敦都係留學生及移民的熱門地,當地房產需求早已經不是只靠當地人了,所以不時都有相關的地產代理會在國外擺展銷會,推銷英樓。香港人咁有錢,自然都不例外。

據了解那些代理以銷售新樓Apartment為主,以一個位於east London , Zone2的505呎studio flat為例,定價約20萬英鎊左右,折合港元計約250萬,一般海外買家可做7成按揭,入場費就是75萬了。那麼回報又如何呢?現時該類物業的租金回報達5.6厘,而按揭利率為4.25厘計,買家從中可賺1.35厘的息差,算是正回報。

不過筆者就上述物業詢問了有關代理, 1.35厘息差是還未計每月代理收取的12.5% management fee及每年1200鎊的管理費,所以承做7成按揭的業主每月得貼多60鎊先cover到所有支出。再追問之下要做到有淨租金回報的話,要做6成按揭先得。加上有租金及供款有匯兌風險,有無肉食就真係見係見仁見智。

未有土地擁有權 賣出成本高

英國人買樓都很在意該物業是Freehold還是Leasehold, 這兩個字對買開港樓的朋友都未必常常接觸。Freehold 是指你所購買物業的所在地(Land)和屋(Building)都完全是屬於買家的,沒有年期限制。而Leasehold則是該土地為政府或其他團體所擁有,並有訂明租期。尤其是買入獨立屋(single house)、鎮屋(townhouse)和排屋(Condo)時是否Freehold的,對樓價有很大的影響,再者銀行對leasehold所餘年期不足60-80年的物業會較難批出按揭。

上述的Apartment型式的單位都是leasehold的, 雖然leasehold 期有150年未必有好大問題,不過如你想轉售圖利的話成本有不低,因為當地的經紀佣金及印花稅各收取樓價的3%,即是一買賣就要多付9-12%的成本。
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AFAIK, there are several banks offer mortgage to HK citizens. E.g. HSBC, Bank of East Asia and Bank of China. In the past, Royal Bank of Scotland and Llyods TSB Bank also offered such service. Try to borrow as much as you can  as the interest paid are tax deductible.
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