HKUGA講一套做一套，實在令人失望

angry_mom

港大同學會小學開辦五年以來，很多政策和目標，都未能兌現，實在使人失望。:cry:


還記得當日前校長在小一入學簡介會理說過，所有小學畢業生都能直升中學，結果去年第一屆畢業生中，有20-30%不能直升，原因是學術水平未達標準，中學校長拒絕全部接收。之後便收到前校長辭職的消息，不知她的離開與此事有沒有關係。

今年又輪到副校長要走，與此同時學校又宣佈港大同學會書院放棄採用IB課程。當日很多家長選擇此校，都是想自己的子女日後選讀IB，認同IB的教學模式。現在要轉回一間讀本地課程的學校，要考本地的高中試。如果家長要讀一間普通的LOCAL SCHOOL，大可參加大抽獎，入讀官津小學，用不著每月交學費。

還有，每年例牌很多老師走，今年也不例外，連副校長都要走了。有些老師教一、兩年便走，有些甚至在學期中都會走。這裏老師可能太辛苦了，薪酬可能比官津校少，很多課程都要自己編，不是照教科書教，備課也花費不少時間。老師還要處理一些問題學生，有些學生情緒有問題，有些學生小組討論時爭執，有些經常不守秩序，老師要花費很多時間去處理課堂秩序。這類學校標榜活動教學，强調愉快學習，對學生的包容比傳统學校高，故這類學校的問題學生頗多，因為一些家長知到自己的子女不能讀傳统學校，都會選這類學校。試問一個普通的小學教師，有些頗為年輕及經驗淺，如何能應付，如何能再教下去。

現在正副校長都相繼離去，他們講過的說話不能兌現，實在令人非常失望。最慘是現在想轉校都不容易，好的學校不收，因為學術水平比傳统學校差，差的學校又不想去讀，想轉國際學校又負擔不起學費。總之，現在騎虎難下，兩頭不到岸，不知怎辦。

yyfather

wildberries

Your kid is so lucky - not many parents are willing / able to pay for private school.

wildberries

原文章由 yyfather 於 07-7-23 21:35 發表
wildberries,

which school did your kid finally attend?

Hi yyfather,

At that time my kid was accepted by 3 schools, they were CKY, HKUGA and a private school in Kowloon Tong and at last, we finally chose the private school.  And my kid studied well and happy at that school.

yyfather

wildberries,

which school did your kid finally attend?

wildberries

原文章由 sue2moumou 於 07-7-19 22:18 發表
我並不認為hkuga對於首屆畢業生當年是無得揀的, 質素參差....等等云云. 雖然我個小朋友並不是佢地第一屆學生, 但我必須要說句公道話. 當年頭三屆學生中, 以小二小三插班和小一四班是學校本身自行面試, 取錄學生 ...

Totally agree!
I have attended their briefing before and considered to let my child to study there.  The two main selling points of this school were through-train and to run IB.  Every parent in the briefing session appraised it as their dream school.  And I think these two points make it becomes quite famous within a few years.  But when I look back now, I must say I am lucky to withdraw this school's offer.  

maryL

I'm looking for a school to my daughter next year.  But it sounds like the workload of the teachers is really heavy.
As a parent, I think if the teachers' workload is too heavy, how can they be physically and emotionally be fit? If the
teachers aren't happy, the students are the one to be
affected. Would this explain the high staff turnover rate of this school? What do other parents think?
Almost 30 pages of EACH school report sounds too
much.
:tongue:

原文章由 Charlotte_mom 於 07-7-14 13:45 發表
我正拎住份school report, 等我俾個正確數字:
term one report, 6版紙
term two report, 6版紙
term three report, 12版紙
當然中間有好多係course description, 評分準則, 個個人都一樣, 不過可以睇出, 老 ...

sue2moumou

我並不認為hkuga對於首屆畢業生當年是無得揀的, 質素參差....等等云云. 雖然我個小朋友並不是佢地第一屆學生, 但我必須要說句公道話. 當年頭三屆學生中, 以小二小三插班和小一四班是學校本身自行面試, 取錄學生, 學校有100%收生權, 如何會無得揀???只有小一兩班是政府派位入來, 因為當年佢地申請做直資, 而係未批情況下仍是津貼小學, 所以有兩班派入黎,如果話無得揀, 都係.....對唔住, 我並無扁意,純粹分析啫. 另外, 小三入黎讀左三四年, 先至突然話唔收佢, 你叫佢地點算?係呢度教到人地成績差哂, 佢地又唔負責任, 趕人走叫人去邊呀?
如果佢地當初話開一條龍學校, 要學生符合幾多科合格....等等條件先至俾佢升中一, ok fine, 我都覺得好合理, 但係當初佢地話因為政府未俾到地, 所以初期我地都好擔心起唔到中學, 於是成班家長聯署俾羅范椒芬, 仲有家長親自譔文.....估唔到而家"打完齋唔要和尚". 開頭如果早講要好成績, 我諗個個都會去補習, 唔會淨係補英文. 唔怕講有一間差唔多係御用補英文o既補習班, 三年前, 當年最高級只有小五時, 已有超過30人在那裡補習(小四小五各三班, 30人一班, 小三六班, 小一小二各四班, 通常小一二太細, 唔會補, 亦唔覺得需要補, 因為水未浸到眼眉)那麼若說hkuga的學生英文好, 則要好好理解....

p.s.我的朋友兒子以為hkuga college有ib讀先至考進去, 睇黎, 他一定好後悔

Pelican

Regarding the new rules set by EMB (ie DSSs cannot switch to IB school completely), has other DSSs told parents yet? It appears to me that some DSSs are still telling parents their IB applications are "in progress".

Honestly, even if those new rules are really to come into force, I would not be too surprised. Has anyone heard about it that there have been complaints from government subsidised schools about the new DSSs?

Last year one DSS in Shatin area had to actually limit the intake of students living in Shatin to 15%. Why? Because the EMB asked the school to do so. And why? Because a lot of government subsidised schools in Shatin did not have enough students.

Now why DSSs are not to allowed to switch to IB school? You guys guess. Once these DSSs are to switched back to local syllabus, a lot of parents might as well consider switching back to free government subsidised schools. See the point?

There are just too many new DSSs around and at the same time, many government subsidised school have been forced to close.

[ 本文章最後由 Pelican 於 07-7-19 20:57 編輯 ]

pumbaa

***it is really sad to see that parents were given false information/hope.*** AGREE

agnesllth

I hate to see that there are schools that falsely provide information to parents in order to get students. The schools knew that IB is expensive and they insisted on charging a mere 2k. With such school fees you just cannot in any way be an IB school. Yet, they still marketed themselves as IB schools.
Why didn't they simply follow the cheaper local syllabus from the beginning? I know many people, like me, would prefer IB and an IB school would definitely sell better. But it is really sad to see that parents were given false information/hope.
Parents should be smarter next timel. There is no "big toads" out there. Getting into an IB school with low fees? Not possible.

ChristyBBmama

兩年前, DGS 出過信話學生要band 1 or band 2 先收, 好似冇話一定收晒喎, 不過最近有冇改就唔知喇


[quote]原文章由 mattsmum 於 07-7-11 08:23 發表
只是DBS, DGS, Spco-ed st paul conv. 有公佈是直升的,

其余沒有如此宣佈過.

怪不得家長讀落才知,才不滿.

"

[ 本文章最後由 ChristyBBmama 於 07-7-18 16:37 編輯 ]

agnesllth

原文章由 HuiTung 於 07-7-18 16:23 發表


Of course I know.  Expensive schools have their own reasons to be expensive. :tongue:

Then, what was your queries just now?

:tongue: :tongue:

HuiTung

原文章由 agnesllth 於 07-7-18 16:18 發表




Do you understand English at all?



IB schools are expensive schools.
But expensive schools are not necessary IB schools.
This is Logic 101.

Anyway, to answer you ...

Of course I know.  Expensive schools have their own reasons to be expensive. :tongue:

HuiTung

原文章由 agnesllth 於 07-7-18 16:18 發表


Do you understand English at all?

So can you write in Chinese then?

agnesllth

原文章由 HuiTung 於 07-7-18 16:13 發表
So please tell me if there's any IB school that charges below $3000 per month.  Gosh!  Don't you think IB is a free lunch?!  How could people say IB is very expensive on one hand, but ask people not to judge by its cost on the other hand???????

Do you understand English at all?



IB schools are expensive schools.
But expensive schools are not necessary IB schools.
This is Math 101 or Logic 101.

Anyway, to answer your question ...... No, in Hong Kong there is no IB schools that charge under $3k/month.

[ 本文章最後由 agnesllth 於 07-7-18 16:23 編輯 ]

HuiTung

原文章由 agnesllth 於 07-7-18 15:19 發表
It is not possible to tell whether a school can be an IB authorised school by looking at the fees. The best way to check it out at the official website. Some very expensive international schools  ...

So please tell me if there's any IB school that charges below $3000 per month.  Gosh!  Don't you think IB is a free lunch?!  How could people say IB is very expensive on one hand, but ask people not to judge by its cost on the other hand???????

Moreover, I'm very sorry to hear that HK students are born to be spoon-fed.  The problem arises from the HK education system itself, not the children themselves.

[ 本文章最後由 HuiTung 於 07-7-18 16:20 編輯 ]

mingdo

原文章由 owenmami 於 07-7-18 14:32 發表
唔辦IB的local school, 有很多都很好, 如協恩、聖心、la salle.....
但如果間學校既理念係唔操學生做考試機器，但到最後又要同其他的local school已操得很fit的學生一齊應考新高中公開試，咁樣爭入大學就係「讓 ...

或者新高中公開試未必適合日日比老師操做考試機器的學生呢！

agnesllth

Copied from the official website


Australian International School: DP
Canadian International School: DP
Chinese International School: MYP, DP
French International School: DP
Hong Kong Academy Primary School: PYP
Island School: DP
Japanese International School: PYP
Kiangsu-Chekiang College, International Section: DP
King George V School: DP
Kingston International School: PYP
Li Po Chun United World College of Hong Kong: DP
Renaissance College: DP
Sha Tin College: DP
South Island School: DP
Victoria Belcher Kindergarten: PYP
Victoria Shanghai Academy: PYP, MYP, DP
West Island School: DP
Yew Chung International School - Hong Kong: DP

[ 本文章最後由 agnesllth 於 07-7-18 15:54 編輯 ]

agnesllth

It is not possible to tell whether a school can be an IB authorised school by looking at the fees. The best way to check it out at the official website. Some very expensive international schools have no intention of switching completely to IB in one step. On the other hand, I simply do not think a school charging a mere 2k per month could in any way manage to be an IB school.

And I am not saying IB is better either. Nothing can be good for everyone. In fact, to be honest, IB is not suitable for most Hong Kong students who are used to spoon-fed education. IB is extremely demanding and requires very high language skills and students have to be real thinkers and not exam machines. It might sound a little too harsh but, honestly, yes, IB would only be suitable for very competent students. In fact, it might even be good news to most students if a local school is not switching to IB at all. I just have to say that most local school students would not be able to perform well using IB. They would probably perform better if they are following the local syllabus.

[ 本文章最後由 agnesllth 於 07-7-18 15:30 編輯 ]