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發表於 09-10-13 10:51 |只看該作者
Polarbb might have been a bit insensitive by putting up this image in her account. (Actually, can anybody tells me can I add an image to my account now?).  But if you think about it, if you find the image disturbing or annoying and can't cope with it, then your life will be very miserable.  Life is too short to live.  As adults or men in this case we should be able to tolerate and accomodate others. Hey Jamesbond, I hope you can flirt and sleep with many women in your real life just like in the movies. Just relax.
原帖由 jamesbond007 於 09-10-13 10:25 發表


Yes, you're right. We just shouldn't be too serious all the time. There are more than tens of hundreds of different images flashing around on this website and this is the only disturbing one I can s ...


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發表於 09-10-13 11:45 |只看該作者
Hi Gooddaddy

1.click入"觀看帳號" 在window上方
2. click入"編輯個人資料", 在window中間
3. click入"上傳頭像", 在window中間偏上
4. select right picture in your database, but not allow over 1MB
5. sign out and re login again, otherwise, the picture is not update to your account.

And I try to PM to you but not success


原帖由 Gooddaddy 於 09-10-13 10:51 發表
Polarbb might have been a bit insensitive by putting up this image in her account. (Actually, can anybody tells me can I add an image to my account now?).  But if you think about it, if you find the i ...

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發表於 09-10-13 12:35 |只看該作者
Hi Ziyi,
Thank you so much. I will give it a try when I have time.
原帖由 ziyi 於 09-10-13 11:45 發表
Hi Gooddaddy

1.click入"觀看帳號" 在window上方
2. click入"編輯個人資料", 在window中間
3. click入"上傳頭像", 在window中間偏上
4. select right picture in your database, but not allow over 1MB
5. sign ou ...

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Reximom-
本來都不想針對你﹐但你真的很愛推波助瀾﹐唯恐天下不亂﹐還經常以踢爆人家有"分身"而沾沾自喜。  
你自己好像很久沒有用"johnny_tangcy"這個"真身"吧!


原帖由 Reximom 於 09-10-13 10:46 發表


Homade/cookingbaba,

依, 好耐無見喎. 你個單野, 人地個細路女只不過係唔覺意夾到你個寶貝仔隻手啫, 又唔係有心打佢, 幾廿歲人到依家都放唔低呀?
係呢, 你又話投訢到辦學團體, 教育局, etc., 唔知最後點呢?


ht ...

[ 本帖最後由 gingerale 於 09-10-13 13:08 編輯 ]

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just a wild thought. what if it is not hello kitty being hanged, but a baby boy/girl (let's say, just a cartoon picture), would it make a difference?  can one say it is just for fun? as an adult, does one have the complete freedom to do that? no one can complain about it? how do we draw the line here?

[ 本帖最後由 猴子爸 於 09-10-13 13:02 編輯 ]

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發表於 09-10-13 14:06 |只看該作者
道德高點?
You say it before in another BK topic


原帖由 猴子爸 於 09-10-13 13:00 發表
just a wild thought. what if it is not hello kitty being hanged, but a baby boy/girl (let's say, just a cartoon picture), would it make a difference?  can one say it is just for fun? as an adult, does ...

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發表於 09-10-13 14:15 |只看該作者
interesting...
I believe we are talking about 2 different scenarios here.
1) a parent is concerned about the deteriorating quality of the schooling environment for his/her kid because of the possibility of increasing enrolment of kids from new mainland immigrant families.  That parent raised the concern (he/she didn't really make an attack), then he/she was being scolded for discriminating against new immigrants.
2) (what if) a user uploads a picture with a baby boy/girl being hanged.  Would that user be criticized?
what do you think?


原帖由 ziyi 於 09-10-13 14:06 發表
道德高點?
You say it before in another BK topic

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發表於 09-10-13 14:45 |只看該作者
It would lead viewers to think of child abuse of some sort which is totally unacceptable and is criminal. Even the mildest form of physical punishment is unacceptable as it lowers children's esteem, constitute acts of violence and teaches children that physical force is an acceptable way to resolve conflicts. Let's talk about nice things instead, shall we?
原帖由 猴子爸 於 09-10-13 14:15 發表
interesting...
I believe we are talking about 2 different scenarios here.
1) a parent is concerned about the deteriorating quality of the schooling environment for his/her kid because of the possibili ...

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原帖由 猴子爸 於 09-10-13 13:00 發表
just a wild thought. what if it is not hello kitty being hanged, but a baby boy/girl (let's say, just a cartoon picture), would it make a difference?  can one say it is just for fun? as an adult, does ...


條線好簡單唔複雜:人當然唔好啦!

我食肉,但如果有反對肉食的指着我說:"試想想,這是人肉,你又點呢?",我都會謎繼續食肉。

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發表於 09-10-13 15:05 |只看該作者
Can I say: it's just a cartoon picture for my own pleasure.  It does no harm to anyone.  Also, this is a parent forum; supposedly, all viewers here are adults who have independent judgement and won't be misled to do anything criminal like that.  Why do you need to make a big fuss out of it?

As for physical punishment, I support it to be used in a reasonable way.  But let's not have a discussion on this here.

原帖由 Gooddaddy 於 09-10-13 14:45 發表
It would lead viewers to think of child abuse of some sort which is totally unacceptable and is criminal. Even the mildest form of physical punishment is unacceptable as it lowers children's esteem, c ...

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發表於 09-10-13 15:08 |只看該作者
即是吊狗吊猫吊猴子就可以?如果狗,猫,猴子,人物化了都可以。吊鸡吊牛吊鹅就更加可以,因为反正我们都吃这些的了。

原帖由 judy 於 09-10-13 15:03 發表


條線好簡單唔複雜:人當然唔好啦!

我食肉,但如果有反對肉食的指着我說:"試想想,這是人肉,你又點呢?",我都會謎繼續食肉。

[ 本帖最後由 猴子爸 於 09-10-13 15:11 編輯 ]

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發表於 09-10-13 15:23 |只看該作者

你應該知道我的想法
可能我是基督徒,有受外國影響
我注重的是公平與自由
而我相信這世界有神的同時亦有罪
亦沒有可能不遇到罪惡
所以我唔覺得那圖有問題,但不代表該圖很好,很善美
但我會利用圖來教導小朋友
所以我在那topic也沒有用道德作理據

I'm agreed freedom is not unlimit, but moral is also unlimit
Freedom is not greater than moral and moral is not greater than freedom

如有得罪,請見諒



原帖由 猴子爸 於 09-10-13 14:15 發表
interesting...
I believe we are talking about 2 different scenarios here.
1) a parent is concerned about the deteriorating quality of the schooling environment for his/her kid because of the possibili ...

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發表於 09-10-13 15:32 |只看該作者
你提到我们不可能不遇到罪恶,所以不觉得那图有问题,意思是这幅图是罪,但因为我们不可以控制我们见不见得到罪恶的东西,所以即使看到它,也觉得不是问题?

原帖由 ziyi 於 09-10-13 15:23 發表

你應該知道我的想法
可能我是基督徒,有受外國影響
我注重的是公平與自由
而我相信這世界有神的同時亦有罪
亦沒有可能不遇到罪惡
所以我唔覺得那圖有問題,但不代表該圖很好,很善美
但我會利用圖來 ...

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原帖由 猴子爸 於 09-10-13 15:32 發表
你提到我们不可能不遇到罪恶,所以不觉得那图有问题,意思是这幅图是罪,但因为我们不可以控制我们见不见得到罪恶的东西,所以即使看到它,也觉得不是问题?
...


1.  那究竟你又憑什麼去judge"所以即使看到它"那個"它"就是罪惡呢? 高舉公平正義背後最後說到尾都是個人道德標準每個人不同.  我不反對亦尊重每一個人不同的標準, 這正正是我們希望小朋友學習respect他人的地方.
2.  其次是世界不是圍著你去轉, 看到不同意或與你價值觀不同的事, 第一個反應不一定要要求他人去改, 或從你眼前將那刺眼的事拿走.  善用反面教材本身沒什麼問題. Hanging Hello Kitty我會問我小朋友你覺得這圖有沒有問題, 從中討論徙而秦討了解小孩子內心世界及價值觀.  ziyi的方法不是逃避, 是更積極面對.

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發表於 09-10-13 16:40 |只看該作者
1)请你看清楚我所写的,我是问ziyi问题,不是judge。
2) 是不是改变不了,就不可以发声?

原帖由 pppp41 於 09-10-13 16:36 發表


1.  那究竟你又憑什麼去judge"所以即使看到它"那個"它"就是罪惡呢? 高舉公平正義背後最後說到尾都是個人道德標準每個人不同.  我不反對亦尊重每一個人不同的標準, 這正正是我們希望小朋友學習respect他人的地方.
2 ...

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原帖由 猴子爸 於 09-10-13 15:08 發表
即是吊狗吊猫吊猴子就可以?如果狗,猫,猴子,人物化了都可以。吊鸡吊牛吊鹅就更加可以,因为反正我们都吃这些的了。

just a wild thought. what if it is not hello kitty being hanged, but a baby boy/girl (let's say, just a cartoon picture), would it make a difference?  can one say it is just for fun? as an adult, does one have the complete freedom to do that? no one can complain about it? how do we draw the line here?


你寫呢啲嘢,係邏輯上叫無限引申,係下三流手段。

之前以講過, Kitty 係 Kitty, 人係人。

我都對呢個Kitty 反感,也表達了。

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發表於 09-10-13 16:49 |只看該作者
wow!不够人讲道理,就骂人下三流,现在谁是下三流,有眼有脑袋的都看得出来。
我也只不过是问问题而已,没有下定论,为什么那么激动呢?
我一直以为你是很有修养,很有见地的一个妈妈,现在真的令我失望。
原帖由 judy 於 09-10-13 16:43 發表


你寫呢啲嘢,係邏輯上叫無限引申,係下三流手段。

之前以講過, Kitty 係 Kitty, 人係人。

我都對呢個Kitty 反感,也表達了。

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發表於 09-10-13 16:51 |只看該作者
"所以即使看到它,也觉得不是问题?"
可能是我中文理解能力不好, 你是在問"所以即使看到罪惡的東西,也觉得不是问题?"

這個"觉得不是问题?"我會理解為先judge了"罪惡的東西", 然後"觉得不是问题?"這問題才成立.  反過來說, 如果已經被judge為不是"罪惡的東西", 那又何需要問"觉得不是问题?"

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