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bigheadchiu

原帖由 中天英 於 13-07-31 發表
如果想入美國頂級／Ivy League大學，LPC會係比較好嘅選擇。
以SPCC嘅歷史／名氣，加上咁好嘅IB Diploma成績 ...

唔知SPCC網上個list係唔係final,如果係，就真係差咗啲。在我嘅年代 ，十幾年前，一年有十幾二十人入Ivy league, Stanford, MIT, Chicago，Oxbridge  等等超級大學的。。。

bigheadchiu

HKTHK 發表於 13-8-1 15:23
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Direct from SPCC or those who went to SPCC, studied abroad and then went on ...

I am talking about 15-20 years ago. This is not the completed or most accurate list as I just recalled from my friends circle + hearsay.... I recalled 4 x U Penn, 1 x Chicago, 2 x Cornell, 1 x Dartmouth, 1 x Princeton, 1 x Berkeley.  Some "less famous" offers were to U Mich, USC, UCLA, etc.  I also heard that some people I am not familiar with went to Yale/Stanford..... not sure..... For US universities, most of the students finish HKCEE and applied, then left after lower 6.  

I know that some other went on to UK left after AL.  Some go to LBS, Cambridge/Oxford after AL.  Not too sure for UK though since I left before AL as well.

Above are all direct from SPCC.

For non-direct, I know some went to Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Cornell, Brown, UPenn, Stanford, MIT, etc, etc.....

bigheadchiu

Btw, there are also chances that many top tier students nowadays prefer to study medical in local universities, rather than going US or UK studying finance or business or engineering (yeah, don't laugh, engineering is for top students too in my times....) 15, 20 years ago.

bigheadchiu

Apple vs orange....

bigheadchiu

其實我發現現在尖子都以入醫、法律、global business作target。同十幾年前尖子target finance，IT, engineering 等有很大不同。以往那些科目在美國讀出路有很大分別的。但現在醫，法律等在local讀比較有利。所以變了尖子出國人數越來越小，入到英美top schools的自然少咗。
經濟對尖子選科都有很大影響喔。。。

bigheadchiu

SPCC十幾年前我嘅一屆好像有五至八人入醫科，十多人入美國英國top U讀business finance.  現在一屆十幾二十人入醫，幾個入美國英國top U.  好明顯現在尖子選科有明顯轉變。所選嘅大學、國家亦不同。

bigheadchiu

所以，如果只睇入英美top U嘅result, 未必係學生質數的指標。

bigheadchiu

This year SPCC has "13個mbbs 15個mbchb " offers....... this is what I learn from SPCC secrets page.... Not sure how true it is and there may be duplicates offers. But I think I did not have so many classmates going for doctor at my times.

There is an obvious shift for top students to study medicine in local university now, rather than going overseas for business / finance.

bigheadchiu

希望可以答到讀醫係唔係真尖子, 勁唔勁。。。。。

http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum ... 3156&extra=page%3D1

bigheadchiu

原帖由 中天英 於 13-08-15 發表
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讀醫讀law, 一直都係名校尖子所好，唔會係呢幾年嘅亊。

我想你在講緊IB，而我是整屆學生去睇。從整屆去睇，好明顯選科嘅distribution同十幾二十年前有分別。所以我認為指標都不同。當然，每個人睇法都可以唔一樣。

bigheadchiu

老實講，金融危機一定令好多人不再幻想自己做ibanker了。。。

bigheadchiu

中天英 發表於 13-8-15 19:14
不過過去幾年嘅「track record」係-----唔多入倒Ivy league/Top Tier 大學喎。

It is because you are just ignoring medicine/law school entry to HKU and CU.  

I would consider medicine／law in local university as "Top Tier".  Therefore, SPCC still get a very impressive record from my point of view.

bigheadchiu

原帖由 中天英 於 13-08-15 發表
HKU/CU =  Harvard/Yale/Princeton/Stanford/MIT??
我尊重你嘅唸法，不過相信唔會好多人同意呢個比較。

如果志願係做醫生律師，我都覺得唔須要去Harvard , U Penn 讀。

你只是曲解我嘅論點。如你自己講，醫生律師一向都係尖子嘅選擇。現在多人選醫生律師，自然少尖子選擇出國留學讀business finance。假設"尖子中嘅尖子"數目不變，Distribution不同，考外國學校嘅人少咗，offer自然少咗。

我冇資料知道呢個shift在LPC或其他IS有幾大影響。但以我所見，呢個shift在SPCC近年好明顯。

PS, 其實之前我睇到spcc個result都覺得比以前差咗。但之後了解返現在嘅學生科目取向，又有不同睇法。

bigheadchiu

原帖由 lawsonmoon 於 13-08-16 發表
答唔到,我講既尖子係不只識考試, 要all round D, presentable and smart. 唔知你有冇識有D醫生都幾dumb吓,  ...

咁我唔知點答你了。。。Sorry。
但我好肯定你講嘅dumb people 在Harvard, Princeton, ivy leagues, Oxbridge 都會出現的。。。

bigheadchiu

原帖由 lawsonmoon 於 13-08-16 發表
同意,我想表達既係用入Med來做指標係幾out吓。我公司和幾間大行尼幾年都有請cambridge 讀engineering既trai ...

明白。

除了你和你啲同事最叻，我沒話說了。

bigheadchiu

原帖由 lawsonmoon 於 13-08-16 發表
我不是尖子,不是engineer, 更不是cambridge 畢業, 我對上既老細更加連學士都唔係, but that is the fact, t ...

那你覺得John Nash 叻嗎？愛因斯坦叻嗎？霍金叻嗎？佢地好all round, 好presentable 嗎?

你講嘅當然係叻人，但世界很大的。大家嘅觀點、心中嘅尺不同。再討論也沒有結果的。我們就各自生活在自己嘅井中吧！不再回了。晚安。

bigheadchiu

原帖由 lawsonmoon 於 13-08-17 發表
我諗你理解錯了我的觀點,我主要想講“叻人不一定會讀醫,讀醫不一定是真叻人”。你那幾個examples當然係叻 ...

讀醫叻唔叻，各人有各人睇法。讀醫一樣可以係all round, presentable的。當然，讀醫亦可以dumb. 讀法律可以dumb，讀ivy league Oxbridge 都可以dumb。(咁在ivy league Oxbridge 讀醫又dumb 唔dumb呢?）

其實回應返主題，我想說的是＂叻人不一定讀ivy league Oxbridge, 讀Ivy League Oxbridge 不一定是真叻人＂。。。那為何要只用ivy league Oxbridge 做指標呢？

我又多口回了。晚安。