香港的直資私立學校會否超英趕美？

lawsonmoon

有報導有名人透過中介人捐款哈佛但仔女不獲取錄而怒告對方。香港既直资私校同時有收生自主權和接受捐款,會不會早晚淪落到此地步？

cykk

spcc無錯係有一部分學生家景十分富裕，但也有很多中產家庭(現實係比得幾仟元學費並非基層家庭可以付擔)，富豪子弟通常是有司機接送的，全校約七成學生返放學都是坐保母車。學校要住址證明，可以有好多原因的，聽聞有老師說過學校只是唔希望家長為了孩子入讀spcc而要學生花費太多時間在交通上。

steven819

hophopbunny, agree with you 越講越誇張! I still don't understand why checking applicants address is such a bit deal. The point is whether they use this as one of their selection criteria. And I think neither DBS nor SPCC is a 貴族校, though both schools do have kids that come from super-rich families. Majority of students come from normal families in both schools. My impression is that both schools want smart, talented kids except that DBS prefer boys only while SPCC prefer both sexes. You can't get a place in both schools or actually any DSS schools just by donation. Both schools are very rich.

lawsonmoon

steven819 發表於 12-10-17 22:08
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Obvious my norm is different from yours then. My point is that the school is ...

因為政府係在憲報刋憲要收集你的住址,用途寫明係用作大抽獎(分區),你報假地址係犯法的,會被起訴啊！
這些學校會公怖收集住址證明的用途嗎？如報他人住址既後果嗎？

不可相提並論啊！

mirage

香港有貴族嗎？有錢人就好多。貴價國際學校也很多。

lawsonmoon

hophopbunny 發表於 12-10-18 16:48
QQLAU  講緊小一哦, 5、6歲的小朋友會有什麼特異功能?其實你係想表達直資名校淨係收有錢仔或是捐錢就可以讀 ...

5,6歲已經有全港分䶖泳賽獎牌了,地區名津都已经搶這些學生了(扣門位)。
没有證據顯示直資名校可捐錢買位,你不能這樣説啊！

我是説要防止這些事發生,包括完善個機制。

今日在收生前收集你的住址証明,明年可收集你的税單,他們可以説幫你對回郵信封,因税單個地址最準,冇枉管嗰喎。

lawsonmoon

ABC-DAD 發表於 12-10-18 02:27
我唔D明數據點來，我相信間間學校都要學生嘅回郵信封記返D資料俾學生，要帶地址證明去對會否出錯，都係保證 ...

数據係EK既家長confirm的。如怕寄失,應該對信封,只對報名表那信封也有可能錯。那1st對了ok啦,2nd要副校長親自對第二次,又點解呢？其實我都唔想沾污你既理想世界,我只是列出這事實,各人有各人既理解,我會尊重你既想法。
事實就真係只有這兩校做這個動作。成日俾人話貴族校既男拔都不會要求address proof。

ABC-DAD

我唔D明數據點來，我相信間間學校都要學生嘅回郵信封記返D資料俾學生，要帶地址證明去對會否出錯，都係保證到唔會記失。唔覺得壽辰山道地址比其他會有優先。我做過其他小學嘅小一收生義工，填錯野經常有。

steven819

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Obvious my norm is different from yours then. My point is that the school is not using it as a selection criteria and my point is supported by the result that the school admit a lot of students that live in 'normal house'. It's the performance of the kids that matter. BTW, when you send the application form to the government, you still need to hand in the address proof.

lawsonmoon

steven819 發表於 12-10-17 19:03
I think every school has their own tradition and produce students with different character. Every sc ...

i cannot agree with you that "checking the address while handling the application form is a very normal procedure". how many dss and private schools in hk? there are only these 2 schools namely spcc and dgjs will check your address proof.  i hope you can distinguish writing address on application form is different from cross checking your address proof by providing utilities bills! if you think 2 out of let say 100 is normal, then we might have different norms indeed.

steven819

I think every school has their own tradition and produce students with different character. Every school has its own supporter. I don't understand why lawsonmoon is so against spcc. Also whether a school want to change to DSS has its own reason. Unlike US universities which are private school, they do accept some donation in exchange for a place. Otherwise they won't have enough funding for research. However, it cannot be the case in HK. DSS is also under government supervision as they receive same amount of subsidiary from the government.  I don't think anyone can donate a place in DSS, be it SPCC or DBS. Also checking the address while handling the application form is a very normal procedure. Many SPCC students live in 'normal home'. The address definitely is not a criteria for selection,

lawsonmoon

cykk 發表於 12-10-17 18:08
其實校長所講是今年比去年捐款少幾十萬，如果學校真係可以賣學位，駛鬼當學生面講咩，開價五十萬一個位都 ...

0h,尼個post係講緊校内捐款,不關買位事。佢地討論緊是否應對學生们講D咁既嘢。佢地覺得凯撒歸凱撤,俗語話冤有頭,债有主,唔應該對小學生講D咁既嘢喎。

lawsonmoon

cykk 發表於 12-10-17 17:51
以我所知spcc只會收舊生和現有學生的捐款，與學校無關係人仕想借捐錢買學位，唔好意思，學校是不會接受的。 ...

如果係真的話,尼D咪係好既機制防止人做壞事囉。

cykk

lawsonmoon 發表於 12-10-17 14:19
題目係講緊捐錢換入學,校內捐款是自願,冇乜好講。隔離post話spcc籌款唔夠,校長當學生面講説話俾學生聽,如家 ...

其實校長所講是今年比去年捐款少幾十萬，如果學校真係可以賣學位，駛鬼當學生面講咩，開價五十萬一個位都大把人爭啦！

smallfoothk

我朋友幾十年前小學申請,要提名人(舊生/家長)才接受申請,最後都要被$人做.....

cykk

以我所知spcc只會收舊生和現有學生的捐款，與學校無關係人仕想借捐錢買學位，唔好意思，學校是不會接受的。

ABC-DAD

spcc同spccps ？係有分別，隔離「講」咩，關我呢個【外人】咩事，我會尊重當事小朋友家長感受，同留意自己說話唔好失分寸。我未知你所講嘅隔離講嘅事。你講捐錢換入學唔係自願，定係咩立場？【香港的直資私立學校會否超英趕美？】呢個題目我見到。咁提中嘅英美大學有無錢換入學先，我睇新聞係講事主都花成千多萬幾唔成功喎？因為無呢回事，有咩好講呢，點超英趕美呢？

lawsonmoon

lawsonmoon 發表於 12-10-16 14:30
君不見spcc和DGJS小一申請已收集一些常人覺得同收生冇必要收集既資料(要申請人提供正本水電媒單供核對所申 ...

Hi QQLAU,
Well,我真係唔知我諗多咗or你冇諗到嘢。尼D個别例子,如果有特異功能,俾埋獎學金都仲有。

成日俾人話係貴族學校既男拔都唔會check人住址！
你揾專人面試時check人住址要check二三千個,你註册時才check只需check二三百個,名校唔係蠢,點解呢？

再問自己點解要check住址？係咪真既住址和我揀學生又有咪關係呢？