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kingkongdaddy

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在我印象中，VSA不屬於國際學校，她只是一間行一條龍IB的英語學校。
在EK小學一覽那間滬江維多利亞學校是否就是VSA ?
Correct me if I am wrong!

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mamaishere

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引用：[size=10.5pt]在我印象中，VSA[size=10.5pt

原帖由 kingkongdaddy 於 15-02-25 發表
在我印象中，VSA不屬於國際學校，她只是一間行一條龍IB的英語學校。
在EK小學一覽那間滬江維多利亞學校是否 ...
totally right!



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poonseelai

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引用：[size=10.5pt]在我印象中，VSA[size=10.5pt

原帖由 kingkongdaddy 於 15-02-25 發表
在我印象中，VSA不屬於國際學校，她只是一間行一條龍IB的英語學校。
在EK小學一覽那間滬江維多利亞學校是否 ...
Both RC and VSA are private independent schools, not international schools.



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WinTee

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引用：Quote:原帖由+kingkongdaddy+於+15-02-25+

原帖由 poonseelai 於 15-02-25 發表
Both RC and VSA are private independent schools, not international schools.
Yes
Both are private independent schools



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nintendo

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Being a private independent school is a financial arrangement.
Government grant the use of land and lend/grant money to build the school.
If I remember it right, DC, ICS and ISF are also PIS.
In any case, "private independent schools" and "international schools" are not necessarily mutually exclusive,

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slamai

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本帖最後由 slamai 於 15-2-25 11:40 編輯

回覆 jemima 的帖子

ESF (excluding PIS) primary: better English, less homework, more expat children
VSA primary: better Chinese and Maths, more homework, mostly (local) Chinese students
ESF PIS schools are more similar to VSA.  They are all IB PYP schools.  It's a matter of individual choice.

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georginia

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我有朋友由RCHK畢業亦都有朋友由VSA轉校。有啲人話VSA只是掛名既國際學校，我朋友讀得唔太開心，最後同佢妹妹轉咗過去耀中

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linus仔

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回覆：RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多，大家有其他意見可參考嗎？

For private independent schools which land is granted by government, there is a requirement that the school must take at least 70% of local students.  So in term of student mix, VSA and RC are not international schools



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bbdmami

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回覆：RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多，大家有其他意見可參考嗎？

I once have checked the admission requirements of an overseas university, and wrt English language requirement for students coming from an international school, I've found the below:

2. Council of international schools
Your school must be an accredited member of the Council of International Schools.
You must have studied at a school that meets the above criteria for four years and be completing the senior or Grade 12 level (non-ESL).

And this is the link to this council where certified members in HK can be found.

http://www.cois.org

I think this is an indicator of an international school.



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poonseelai

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引用：I+once+have+checked+the+admission+requir

原帖由 bbdmami 於 15-02-26 發表
I once have checked the admission requirements of an overseas university, and wrt English language r ...
唉，何謂國際學校每人定義唔同，有家長認為只有教育局名下定義為國際學校的才是，RC和VSA等PlS雖然用國際課程，有家長亦不會打它們列為國際學校



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Lamk2

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回覆：RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多，大家有其他意見可參考嗎？

I don't know about VSA. For RC, I can only say my elder one loves the school so much and we just accepted the P1 offer from RC where I gave up KJS (tough decision).

RC is a very new school, but I can see they are catching up so well. I mean academically. I know there are few students got offer from GSIS and CIS recently for secondary where they studied in RC since Y1.



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Lamk2

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回覆：RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多，大家有其他意見可參考嗎？

Oops... I mean we just accepted the P1 offer from RC for my younger one.



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kingkongdaddy

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請問RC家長，學校有無限制IB English 一定要考first language ？

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Radiomama

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回覆：kingkongdaddy 的帖子

RC 的group 1只有English A or Chinese A; 而group 2 就只有Chinese B or Spanish B;
所以只有Group 1 讀English A & Chinese A>考Bilingual , or English A + Chinese B;
又或Group 1 考自修Japanese A / Spanish A/ Hindu A囉。



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nintendo

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本帖最後由 nintendo 於 15-3-8 13:35 編輯
poonseelai 發表於 15-2-26 22:33
唉，何謂國際學校每人定義唔同，有家長認為只有教育局名下定義為國際學校的才是，RC和VSA等PlS雖然用國際課 ...

To be honest, it does not matter what "parents" want to believe. I would look at what universities consider.
As far as I know, schools like ISF and RCHK are considered "schools taught in english medium". Their students do not need to write IELTS or TOEFL (for students that have been studying in such schools for 4 years ---- number of years varies depending on university). I personally have friends with children in IBDP in these schools so I can only say so for these 2 schools. Not sure about other schools like VSA. More, these schools offer "non-local" curriculum and that is what make them "non-local". Whether a school is truly international, well, different parents can have their own views. My kids are at STC and so many non-STC friends have raised that there are so many ethnic chinese, it does not seem to be an international school. Similar comments for KGV, but just that they have more indians instead. I think I will let people think what they want, because what they want to believe does not affect the chance of my children entering top universities. So whatever.

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poonseelai

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引用：+本帖最後由+nintendo+於+15-3-8+13:35+編

原帖由 nintendo 於 15-03-08 發表
本帖最後由 nintendo 於 15-3-8 13:35 編輯
Requirement for IELTS may have changed. I was told this year HKU requires an IB student taking Eng A HL to provide IELTS as well.



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nintendo

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本帖最後由 nintendo 於 15-3-8 14:02 編輯
poonseelai 發表於 15-3-8 13:44
Requirement for IELTS may have changed. I was told this year HKU requires an IB student taking Eng A ...

Students for 2015 must achieve at least ONE of the following to be considered for admission to HKU.  Other proof of English proficiency (for example, GCE A-level English Language) will be considered on individual merit basis.

International examinations:

  • Grade C or better in English Language at GCSE / GCEO
  • Grade C or better in English First Language at IGCSE
  • Grade B or better in English Second Language at IGCSE
  • An overall band of 6.5 or better in Academic IELTS
  • A score of 550 or better in the paper-based TOEFL (213 for computer-based, 80 for internet-based) [Note: TOEFL ITP test is not accepted for satisfying the English Language Requirement]
  • Subscores of 550 or better in Critical Reading and 550 or better in Writing in SAT in the same attempt
  • Grade 4 or better in the Higher Level English Language (B Syllabus); or
    grade 5 or better in the Standard Level English Language (B Syllabus); or
    grade 4 or better in the Higher or Standard Level English Language (A1 or A2 Syllabus); or
    grade 4 or better in the Higher or Standard Level English Language A: Language and Literature; or
    grade 4 or better in the Higher or Standard Level English Language A: Literature; or
    grade 4 or better in the Standard Level English - Text and Performance; or
    grade 4 or better in the Standard Level English - Literature and Performance (A1 syllabus) at International Baccalaureate


Looks like IB English is one of the qualifications that satisfy the minimum requirement.

Anyway, my point was not to discuss how widely acceptable IB English is (although it may be your concerns). I merely wanted to point out, schools like ISF, VSA, RC are generally considered by universities to be in par with ESF, HKIS, etc  when it comes to whether it is an international schools.

Again, individual parents are of course entitled to what they want to believe.


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kingkongdaddy

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回覆 Radiomama 的帖子

RC跟其他ESF 中學都是規定學生考IB English first language 即English A ，可以這樣說，該校的英語水評照理應該是好的。我認識一位VSA家長說VSA 他兒子選English second language 即English B，學校是否沒有考English A 的規定？

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Artie

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poonseelai 發表於 15-3-8 13:44
Requirement for IELTS may have changed. I was told this year HKU requires an IB student taking Eng A ...


This is totally strange.
Do you have more information of this student?
Which program did he apply to?
What was his English A HL score?
What did HKU ask for his IELTS?

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Artie

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kingkongdaddy 發表於 15-3-8 02:21
請問RC家長，學校有無限制IB English 一定要考first language ？

RC does not offer English B. So everyone has to take English A, which is considered first language level curriculum.

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