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Do ICS reject unsuccessful candidates with same reason ? [複製鏈接]

YauMum

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回覆 Starrynite 的帖子

Dear Starrynite,

Being  a former ICS parent, I am sorry for you and your kid who had made great effort to attend the interview and ended up with a bad experience during the test.  I would not be happy if the test was run in this way.  It would definitely affect the kid performance and it is not fair to the kid either.  Have you reflected it to the school?

When my kid was still there, I sometime, did not understanding the way they do either,e ven though we were there for years. We were glad that the teachers were great but we did not a lot of pressure on studying, as too many local Chinese families, they are demanding.  I am not saying it was bad but it was really pressure to me and my kid.  We have once though of transferring school when she was only junior grade because of the academic requirements.

All in all, we and our kid still love the school, she misses it so much as the teachers she had showed great love to her even she was not an outstanding student in the class.  Now she left for other schoo, the kids still maintain good freindships and we, parents still keep in touch.

All the best to your kid.



To other disappointed parents,

I am the representative of the school, when I read this thread, I do feel sorry for you and your kids.  Sometime, ICS does not really know how to handle the matter.  In the past, they would discuss the results with the parents in full even they rejected the kids but I believe there are too many, they can't afford to do it.

If you are still interested in ICS, I would suggest to contact the school again for another interview after six months if your kid was commented 'English not meeting the standard'.  Sometime, ICS refer to the performance at the test.  Please be understood that the kids might have down performance in unfamiliar environment.  Summer school at ICS and fall festival are opened to the public, it would be good chance to let the kid to have a taste of the school and personnel.  Summer school is run by ICS itself, they also hire old boys/ girls and senior years to assist the teachers.  So you might have chances to check it out on your own.

Well, there were a few stories may comfort you all.  Years ago, some teachers/staffs kids/ sibling applied to the school from other IS, they did fail in the first time and they came back in six months for the 2nd test, then they got in.  Also, younger brothers/sisters in ICS kindergarten also failed to go into elementary with their brothers/sisters.  There are still a few families having kids in different IS.  You are not alone!!!!!

If there is a chance, I will reflect your thought to the school, as we do go back to the school sometime.

All the best to your kids.

YauMum

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Starrynite  Thank you!  發表於 14-2-7 21:08
minirat  Thanks for sharing!  Seems like it was more of an "administration" issue.  發表於 14-2-7 09:23

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musicien

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回覆：Do ICS reject unsuccessful candidates with same reason ?

Gsis also issues similar template letters.



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JMM

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引用：回覆+Starrynite+的帖子 Dear+Starrynite,

原帖由 YauMum 於 14-02-06 發表
回覆 Starrynite 的帖子

Dear Starrynite,
Yes，you are right. ICS is academically very very demanding indeed.  The so-called native speakers might not perform as well as non-natives in terms of reading， writing or overall literacy. No offense.



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FattyDaddy

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本帖最後由 FattyDaddy 於 14-2-7 01:55 編輯
musicien 發表於 14-2-7 00:22
Gsis also issues similar template letters.

Apparently the annoyance is not with the usage of templates but the wording of the templates {:1_1:}

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shadeslayer

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引用：Put+it+this+way,+if+a+school+is+incapabl

原帖由 FattyDaddy 於 14-02-06 發表
Put it this way, if a school is incapable of preparing a rejection letter that is more subtle and po ...
I actually agree with you. Even an ordinary parent like me can think of other ways to express rejects with certain euphemism.

But the parents with the blunt reject letter couldn't care less about the school. It is the parents' ego that was hurt.



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minirat  Well u might be right...  發表於 14-2-7 09:24
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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md23

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回覆：WNoahLam 的帖子

Geez, stop being a cry baby.



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shadeslayer

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引用：We+received+rejected+letter+by+ICS+with+

原帖由 WNoahLam 於 14-02-05 發表
We received rejected letter by ICS with a radiculous reason "English has not met required admission  ...
Obviously you could not care less about the school's behaviour as your child is not getting in. Your child could not care less about the reject as you either have not told him/her, or the child forgot about this in 10 minutes.

In the adult world, one has to get over many things that you have no control of.  Have companies ever tell job interviewers real reasons for a reject?  You will never heard from them, let alone a letter, or a reason.



The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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JMM

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引用：+本帖最後由+FattyDaddy+於+14-2-7+01:55+

原帖由 FattyDaddy 於 14-02-07 發表
本帖最後由 FattyDaddy 於 14-2-7 01:55 編輯
I guess the core issue is parents' ego instead of the wording.  At least there was a legitimate reason given (although parents might not be convinced！) .  I got a reject letter from another very sought-after private school (not IS) which was obviously a computer-generated letter，just saying that my child's application was unsuccessful.  No reason was given.  No reference was made to my girl's name，application number，parents' name，etc. That was a epic joke to me！



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minirat  Honestly I think that is more acceptable than pinpointing at a certain incapability which is basically standardised.  發表於 14-2-7 10:58

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minirat

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shadeslayer 發表於 14-2-7 08:21
Obviously you could not care less about the school's behaviour as your child is not getting in. Your ...
For discussion sake, not argument.

If I receive a letter for unsuccessful job application stating that my English standard has not met their expectation, and I find out later that that is a standard "templated" letter that they sent out to every unsuccessful candidate, I will be furious, whether or not this company is my ideal choice.  At the same time, like you said, I will not be expecting an explicit explanation (especially in the case of a school, there might be over thousands of application) or even a reply, coz they have no obligations to do that.

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JMM

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引用：I+guess+WnoahLam+would+like+to+receive+s

原帖由 Shummamapapa 於 14-02-06 發表
I guess WnoahLam would like to receive some more specific reason for rejection. It is not about sepa ...
Very well said！



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引用：Quote:原帖由+vinci_lo+於+14-02-06+發表I+

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WNoahLam

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To YauMum (the representative of school) :

1) We send our kid to ICS summer course few months before as we want to ensure he is happy with the environment/teachers. During the whole summer course, "zero" comment received from ICS. To me only two implications: either our kid fit well with the environment/standard or ICS spotted the issues but not to take action
2) I'm glad that as a representative of school, you finally admitted that the root cause is too many applications. However it also mean that you guys awared of the issue but just to pick a most easy/lazy handling method and disregard people's feeling. BTW if you can't handle so many application, why accept from the beginning.

Glad to know that it's possible to reapply after few months. From the whole handling approach of ICS, it truly reflected the value/belief of ICS which I think my kid can't fit in cuz I don't want him to carry the "Christian character" you just demonstrated, Thanks

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musicien

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引用：+本帖最後由+FattyDaddy+於+14-2-7+01:55+

原帖由 FattyDaddy 於 14-02-07 發表
本帖最後由 FattyDaddy 於 14-2-7 01:55 編輯
Wordings r somewhat the same



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YauMum

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回覆 WNoahLam 的帖子

To whom it may concern,

I mistyped, I should be typing 'I am not the official representative of the school' but anyway, I responded here to let some concerned parents to know that they are not alone.

If my response just made it worse, I am sorry for it.  I should not have responded anything on ICS at all in order to avoid unnecessary misunderstanding from now on.

All the best.

YauMum

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musicien

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U don't need to feel sorry. This is a forum I think anyone can talk. I understand parents feel disappointed. I did when I sometimes didn't even get a chance to be interviewed after paying thousands of application fees.  I wonder what happened to all the schools now and the system.  But I do feel sorry that u were targeted.



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YauMum  Thx for your understanding.  Being a former insider, I did not really know what the school was looking for her suitable students.  Just to reveal some overheard stories from the past and my experience  發表於 14-2-8 23:13

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To yaumum:

No need to sorry if u really mistyped. Anyway thanks for your information. I am going to take the case to Consumer Council to check any violation to the Cap 362 Trade Description Ordinance S13I Wrongly accepting payment

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本帖最後由 Radiomama 於 14-2-10 16:10 編輯

Consumer council?? Don't you think this is ridiculous?
No offense, I'm not a parent from ICS. Think before you act. Your kid is still young and it's a long road for both of you to learn and experience.



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回覆：Do ICS reject unsuccessful candidates with same reason ?

Summer school at ICS is a joke. The student mix is horrible. Some students cannot even speak simple English. What can instructors do? In the end, time and money is wasted.



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JMM

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引用：送你一曲：劉德華+常言道鬥爭緊握了拳頭拳

原帖由 小之爸 於 14-02-08 發表
送你一曲：劉德華
奇人奇事天天都有，唯獨BK特別多！



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