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發表於 13-9-18 18:02 |只看該作者 |倒序瀏覽 |打印

Does anyone has experience with skipping grade at ESF primary school after your child is tested as gifted child?

This is to ask on behalf of a friend whose child in the process of joining ESF year 1 from another country. Her child is recently tested and found out that he's gifted. They will be moving back to HK and joining ESF primary school's year 1 class toward the end of the year as a transfer student. I thought I could help gather some thoughts and views from some experienced parents of gifted child...
(They didn't know the kid is gifted when they applied to enroll ESF. )

Please if you could share how you did it, how u spoke to the relevant people in the school, would they allow such thing as skipping grade at ESF? If not, are there any special arrange within the classroom or extra classes/ supports given by the school?

Thanks.

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發表於 13-9-18 21:21 |只看該作者

回覆：eryca 的帖子

為何check到是資優就要跳班呢？
孩子屬那類資優？數學、語文、體育、繪畫、社交？
若是插班的回流學生還要適應生活細節和中文問題，不用心急於跳班。完成year one再由學校評估吧。
在ESF的學校有special education need的老師，既照顧補底、也提供拔尖。
另外ESF的primary school行IB課程（PYP), 對資優學生來說已提供了空間讓他們學習farther and deeper.

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發表於 13-9-18 22:05 |只看該作者

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Thanks Radiomama for your reply. True there are some adjustments needed in transition. I will let them know the situation/ resources at ESF school and they can also take what you have shared to discuss with the school in much detail later.

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發表於 13-9-18 23:37 |只看該作者

quite a number of gifted kids in ESF. The management won't let you skip grades easily. I have seen ONLY one case in all these years. That kid was born January, so basically there is not much age difference between him/her and the youngest kids of the year.

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同意，仔仔學校裏真的有不少資優學生，上任校長認為每位學生都是gifted & unique, 所以不認同走elite class的方向。
個人認為年幼學生不應跳班，打好基礎，更要學習自理和情緒管理。反而高中之後可因應表現和成績向大學拔尖或直升二年級埋手。

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發表於 13-9-19 09:58 |只看該作者

Think it is not good for the kid to know that they are gifted. They will have enoromous pressure both from outside and inside. If you let the kids skipped grade then he himself and also his friends will start to put " unseen " pressure on him.

Having read some article from the parents here or 'grown up' , it seems that the IQ test only for the parents to know how to guide their child in the future. Grading or marks might not necessary be rightly applied onto the gifted children as they might not look upon this so much.

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發表於 13-9-19 12:56 |只看該作者

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Thanks everyone for your kind replies.
His mother is worrying about if everything is too "simple" for the kid, he would become bored and disturb the class or cultivate destructive ego/ behavior.

I think some of you have pointed it out clearly that there are other things he needs to learn with kids of his age now, academic is not the whole thing.

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發表於 13-9-19 15:56 |只看該作者

If he is good at Maths, maybe he could join outside course to gain some satisfication. I told him school and home work is for revision and tideness and outside maths is for some advancement and some his own satisfication

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發表於 13-9-19 23:51 |只看該作者

ESF has its own system in assessing kids for acceleration in terms of grade skipping. They don't simply accept an IQ test result as a reason for acceleration.
There are other form of acceleration like pullout class but this is labour intensive and really depends on the manpower of the school .
Parents can also arrange online gifted course and other local course for the kid if the school is not providing enough for the kid
mildly gifted kids are usually not a problem
Only for those who r highly gifted or above can be a big problem both academically and socially.

In my own opinion, letting the gifted kids know that they r gifted is important.
Then they will understand why they may think or learn differently from the other kids, so that they won't think that they r outcasts.
However, both parents and the gifted kids must understand tat being gifted does not mean that they r more superior or better than other normal kids.

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發表於 13-9-20 08:22 |只看該作者

回覆：girlsmama 的帖子

Well said! Agree

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發表於 13-9-22 23:04 |只看該作者

回覆：girlsmama 的帖子

Thanks girlsmama for that useful insights!

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發表於 13-9-24 11:30 |只看該作者

My experience may be useful for reference. I have two 'so-called' gifted kids who finished primary school in ESF. My elder daughter did not encounter any problems in primary school. She was not even tested for IQ. She was quite self-disciplined and hard-working. She was not aware of being more clever than others. I gave her many after school activities. When she went to college, she realised she was top student. Because she wanted to be taught by good teachers, she went to boarding school in UK to study.
My younger son was lucky to be tested earlier in young age. He was described as not concentrating and active in class. His performance in primary improved bit by bit every year. He quite enjoyed his primary school life. When he went to college, his academic performance ' jumped' quickly.
In summary, I want to say that gifted kids need suitable environment and time for them to live happily. Do not 'pull' them out of normal life and expect them to 'learn and run' very fast at younger age. My choice is absolutely correct to let my kids to study in ESF primary school.

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發表於 13-9-24 18:39 |只看該作者

本帖最後由 girlsmama 於 13-9-24 18:39 編輯

回復 Choisumwong 的帖子

You are lucky to have kids who behave well and perform well academically.

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發表於 13-9-24 19:38 |只看該作者

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One more point:
Gifted kids are smart in some areas but they are not 'born-to-know-everything'!
Mozart practiced piano everyday even he's a genius!

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發表於 13-9-24 19:41 |只看該作者

I feel that most parents of gifted kids in Hong Kong are expecting too much from their kids at very early stage. ESF is definitely not demaning and selective. It's primary schools is very suitable for most kids to enjoy and develop. But for secondary schools, gifted and ambitious students are not quite suitable and they are prone to underachievement.

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發表於 13-9-24 22:22 |只看該作者

回復 Choisumwong 的帖子

So in your opinion, which secondary school is more suitable for gifted kids ？Overseas？

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發表於 13-9-25 09:46 |只看該作者

It depends on many factors such as area of strength, kids' maturity, parents'education, education system etc. There is no one size fit all case. The better approach will be balanced education at early age and selective and enrichment education at later stage.

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發表於 13-9-25 10:31 |只看該作者

心理學家有提意我仔可跳班，不過我話唔想，原因我覺得佢IQ高，但心智行為未成熟，我怕有反效果。

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發表於 13-9-25 11:38 |只看該作者

引用：心理學家有提意我仔可跳班，不過我話唔想，

原帖由 浩霆豬豬 於 13-09-25 發表
心理學家有提意我仔可跳班，不過我話唔想，原因我覺得佢IQ高，但心智行為未成熟，我怕有反效果。 ...

I think it is not desirable to.skip grades at early age too. He should make friends and grow up with friends as friendship is very valuable and strong lasting lines usually formed in school.

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發表於 13-9-25 13:13 |只看該作者

But then on the other hand, gifted kids usually feel more comfortable with elder kids whom they can communicate better. ie similar intellectual level.
If keep them in their grade , they may tend to either tune down their ability and conversation to meet their classmates or become a lone ranger and have difficulties to make friend.
Gifted kids need friends who can communicate with them intellectually as they are mentally more mature but physically and emotionally younger .
After saying this, parents know their kids the best. Or instead talk to kid himself to see if he likes the idea and his opinion. You will be surprised what they have to say.

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