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Rosina1961

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有無覺得直資學校經常換老師，為什麼直資學校留不住老師，需要年年換好多個？？我不覺得校長不好﹗想知道政府學校是否一樣？想了解一下？

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judy

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原帖由 Rosina1961 於 09-10-22 23:06 發表
有無覺得直資學校經常換老師，為什麼直資學校留不住老師，需要年年換好多個？？我不覺得校長不好﹗想知道政府學校是否一樣？想了解一下？

做私人工的流動率都比政府工大啦！

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Rosina1961

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做私人工薪水高還是政府工薪水高？
現在老師很少教育理想？
最苦的是學生，開學不足兩個月，換兩個老師。

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原帖由 Rosina1961 於 09-10-23 16:38 發表
做私人工薪水高還是政府工薪水高？
現在老師很少教育理想？
最苦的是學生，開學不足兩個月，換兩個老師。

咁如果係津校都年年有幾個老師走, 咁又代表乜野呢 ?

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原帖由 Rosina1961 於 09-10-23 16:38 發表
做私人工薪水高還是政府工薪水高？
現在老師很少教育理想？
最苦的是學生，開學不足兩個月，換兩個老師。

我估人工應差不多。我的孩子以前讀平價私校，學校的收入應少於一般直資，但教師变動並不是大到不能接受，每年大概二個新教師左右吧！

孩子現時讀的直資变動反而大點。我想有幾方面的：

1. 教得不好的，很少能教到學期尾。
2. 新請的教師，学歷普遍很高，他們如教得不如意，是很容易跳槽的。

李國寶中學的校長曾讚教院学生，話佢地少走人，我估請教院学生，會少变動。

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stevema

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Here is answer from friend of mind: If I take teacher as my life career, I would apply government school, then subsidised, DSS, private... stablility or salary? not sure. Any one can share?

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stevema

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Mystery

If teachers are moving fast, who people are so grazy about DSS? How's situation of DSS? Are teachers' pay scale similar to private? seems that people are not concerned about teacher's turnover issue, but I am quite curious about this.

However, if DSS cannot maintain good teachers, how can they achieve good results?

Can anyone share a convincing answer? Thanks.

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囝囝爸

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原帖由 stevema 於 09-10-31 22:06 發表
If teachers are moving fast, who people are so grazy about DSS? How's situation of DSS? Are teachers' pay scale similar to private? seems that people are not concerned about teacher's turnover issue ...

唔知直資校教師流轉率現在是否仍然大. 不過直資校招生工作量也不算少, 愈出名愈多人報愈多嘢做, 一考二考又後補. 假期當減少不少. 這些非教學額外工作, 資深教師不肖為, 新進教師不得不為, 校長項硬上而為 . 是其一原因吧.

或也參考以下資深校長說直資對教師的影響.
http://www.puiching.org/operation_mode/one_dragon_meeting_20090625/speeches_1.htm

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stevema

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thanks for the link, the information helps me to understand the features and challenges of different school models. And, I find that Pui Ching is a very good school.

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judy

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Just becasue the teacher won't have any chance to make a big mistake to casue any death of their student. So we didn't take it as much serious as those hospital mistake.

三年32宗風化案，嚴重嗎？

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Rosina1961

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原帖由 JennieE 於 09-11-2 12:32 發表
but this generation is like this. Actually being a nurse, doctor, teacher, ...etc all of these kind of job is not just a job. They need to have the 使命感. Otherwise..you can see Hong Kong got a lo ...

I agree with you, not only doctor, nurse, teacher, I'm in commercial field, the accountant, the clerk, and technician, they don't contribute a lot, but they ask too much.  they change company whenever they found there is a bit advantage, they even change field from time to time,

Is that because the teacher taught them this, when they were in school,

I remember that, my teacher told us "Rolling Stone gathers no moss" when I was in F4 student.

I am in the same field that in my life, I would say I am pretty good in my field with reputation as well as wealth,

I wonder if the young people would understand this.  "Gathers experience is worth than short sight benefit"

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回覆 14# Rosina1961 的文章

I would say it's the problem of atmosphere. When every one including student are thinking of maximizing their return immediately, how can you teach them experience will pay you back in long term. Especially you can observe some parent even teach their kids to handle stock during childhood, in a sense they say it's a way to teach them handling wealth but it must give a wrong value set to them.

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father_ho

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Regarding this topic, you can not expect much since for good/bad teachers in private and DSS, the turnover rate must be high for very simple reason. For gov. school, although the turnover rate is low, it doesn't mean they will teach good and many of them still insist on no pain no gain method (may be some parent still buy it). The conculsion may be you need to take care the kids more closely and not just rely on school.

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回覆 14# Rosina1961 的文章

The way of thinking of those young generation nowadays is quite different from us. Their focus is quick money and quality of life without considering how much they can contribute to the society. They don't value the importance of experience. I know cases that parents do not allow their children to accept an offer because the pay is too low at the beginning.

Back to school, my son is studying in a private school. The turnover rate is acceptable. I note that, since there are two teachers take care of one class (about 28 students), their work load is reasonable. Therefore, they have time and energy to take care of every student. I think the high work load is one of the reasons why turnover rate in other schools is high.