Singapore international school (SIS) vs ISF Academy

Jane1983

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拼音書用國內書，其餘是校本課程，書的內容和local小一比較，應該係差不多，但抄寫、做練習和默書，比local相對少好多。學校的中文課程幾有心思，每天都有連堂，除課本外，加上雜誌和兒童版古著教學，有趣味性，每週亦帶好幾本圖書回家看。
小朋友普通話的聽和講能力，係勝過本地小一生不少，寫就應該無咁好，因為操得少d，每個單元就係重要詞語寫4次，無抄寫。同學間中文勁的吾少，但估計差d的亦有。

kfy

HKTHK 發表於 15-2-10 21:27
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I don't see how ISF could repeat the performance of 39.2. It is both a matter of ...

I agree with you that the 39.2 average score is very likely unsustainable. To be honest the school average score is just a benchmark or reference. I would be more interested in my kid's score, only. I know a lot of smart kids in ISF and relatively my kid is doing fine. If she is going to get a 39 score in IB, I will be overjoyed. So, be realistic.

fatcni

我個friend嘅女係ISF 讀（小二or小三），功課係作文。我朋友一位補習老師都冇請，因佢想試下若唔補習，個女追唔追得上。佢都話課程唔淺，功課內老師會刻意加一、兩題極深的比學生做，結果冇個學生識做，仲比家長們complain.結果，老師只比難題比班內比較叻嘅學生做。我個朋友個女而家成績一般，所以各位家長，入到去讀係入場卷，冇人寫包單小朋友一定讀得好。而我朋友嘅家傭每次提起呢間學校的功課，都搖晒頭，話好多（但我估冇local school咁多），因我朋友從來都不會陪個女做功課，所以佢話功課還可以，但個工人就見個小朋友做得辛苦。

shadeslayer

原帖由 friendlyguy 於 15-02-21 發表
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At senior years it does not matter whether A level or IB because there is no need to talk about transitioning back to Singapore pre university schools. But for lower years the style and curriculum have to be close enough to enable a reasonable transition back to main stream schools back in Singapore.  Make sense?

friendlyguy

yes, make sense for curriculum, but style...

annie40

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入到去讀係入場卷，冇人寫包單小朋友一定讀得好

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呢句話是全球通用，去到oxbrige, 哈佛，史丹福，都啱用。

annie40

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由工人去評論孩子是否辛苦？父母去左邊處？

annie40

如果父母唔知去左邊處，孩子讀得一般，甚至是很差，都是很正常的結果吧。

shadeslayer

friendlyguy 發表於 15-2-22 12:50
yes, make sense for curriculum, but style...

Yes Style as well...   Style is the result of education philosophies.  Think of the Asian education style compared to the Western.  Is it easy to transition from the Western discovery approach to the Asian practice approach?  

Anyway, I have no insider information, just what makes sense to me.

friendlyguy

is there only two education aproach?
can it be a hybrid?
can the singapore education in hong kong evolve due to difference enviroment?

minirat

原帖由 shadeslayer 於 15-02-22 發表
Yes Style as well...   Style is the result of education philosophies.  Think of the Asian education  ...

I share your sentiments that the basic style and concept cannot be too big a difference, especially with the fact the Singapore Ministry of Education has a part to play in the function of this school.  This is my understanding of our Singapore government.  They will provide what they feel is the best for our people.  My personal opinion though.

friendlyguy

Hi Minirat,

I believe you are a Singaporean. Is your kid studying in SIS? If so, please give us more insight on whether SISHK is just a Singapore school in Hong Kong with no difference from its counterparts in Singapore.

Singapore’s style of education has always been criticized for being too specialized, rigid, elitist and uncreative. Some say that the pressure on Singapore students is even higher than those in Hong Kong. I am a Hong Konger with my only kid studying in SISHK since PY1. He is now in S1. I can only say that my son’s education life is happy throughout, a lot more relax than his friends who studying in local school (even more relax than my primary school life). With my son’s character, sometimes I doubt that whether he can survive in Hong Kong local school!

I think if SISHK is just another Singapore school in Hong Kong, then it is unfair that Singapore education attract so much criticism.

friendlyguy

shadeslayer

原帖由 friendlyguy 於 15-02-22 發表
is there only two education aproach?
can it be a hybrid?
can the singapore education in hong kong ev ...

Friendly guy,

Yes it can evolve but at the end cannot deviate too much as they have to deal with the issue of Singaporeans transitioning back to Singapore after SISHK.  I think the "evolution" should be similar to FIS where they have a French stream and international stream, or GSIS where there is a German stream and international stream, or JIS where there is a Japanese stream and international stream, or KIS with a Korean stream and international stream, etc.
It is not meant to be a criticism of Singapore education, just a logical conclusion when you put the facts together.

minirat

原帖由 friendlyguy 於 15-02-22 發表
Hi Minirat,

I believe you are a Singaporean. Is your kid studying in SIS? If so, please give us mor ...

Hi, I am a Singaporean but my boy has yet to study in SIS.  He just had his interview for this year's admission.  So I am not in a good position to comment.  I have spoken to few existing SIS parents, whose kids are studying at different levels of this school.  Apparently I received completely different opinions of this school, pretty extreme.  I am curious to check it out myself in time to come.

friendlyguy

Just curious to know what is your comment, as a singaporean, about a through train school to pre-u level with singapore curriculum from py1 to s2, and native language subject teacher without streaming, no psle etc.

kfy

fatcni 發表於 15-2-22 08:31
我個friend嘅女係ISF 讀（小二or小三），功課係作文。我朋友一位補習老師都冇請，因佢想試下若唔補習，個女 ...

我孩子在 ISF Grade 3，已是第四年了。
從來也沒有補習。我認為 ISF小學生補習不是主流（除了外藉小孩請中文家教），也看不到有任何需要。
我孩子的成績中游，功課他自己做，唔識當然可以問我。Assessment 和聽寫前我會提他認真溫書但不會幫他溫，考完回來我才陪他覆卷，看看他有什麼地方不掌握。要心裡有個底。怎可能樣樣靠家傭。


我自己是讀本地學校，經歷過考試制度，我會認同考試策略和溫書方法都是非常重要。我從未上補習班，中學時已開始幫人補習找外快，但事實是幫人補習的學生，成績會比去上補習班的學生好得多。操卷是試前必須，我是本地人，英文唔 native，但不停做 past papers 後一樣可以 GMAT 考到 7xx 分。Learning to learn, learning attitude and the desire to get good results 。。。
如果真係由細補習補到入 oxbridge，我會信 Annie 那一句，入得到都未必讀得好。

annie40

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唔知點講好，自己戴住有色眼鏡觀察了SIS十幾年，學生其實完全無問題，除了中文稍好，數學又稍好，其他方面，跟其他國際學校無分別。再要批評，就肯定是自己唔抵得人家'魚與熊掌＂兼得，過不到自己的關，慌死人家活得比我好。
會唔會後悔唔送孩子去SIS？唔會！因為接受不了用星加坡人角度學習中國文化，是自己的價值觀問題，跟學校素質和教育方針無關。

annie40

以上對SiS的意見，基本上ISF也合用。

兩者擇其一，不需考慮支出，會選ISF，既然擺明對中文學習有抱負，梗系要學習而得其法，無謂接受半桶水之后又再半桶水，最后所剩無幾了。

至於科英文，水平是因人而異，SIS英文好的很多，認識ISF高中的孩子不多，不敢妄加意見，但IB平均分達到39， 英文無一定水平，好難做到。

除非個個去修IB 的HL 是Maths, Physics, Mandarin B, 避開英文科，如果是事實，佢地D數理又超班得離奇了，不合邏輯。

Jane1983

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見你話明有色眼鏡，仲點講好
學校so far真係best of both worlds，我和學校的關係和感情，係建基於它栽培小女，日日為佢增值。我們芸芸眾生爭幾個位，考卷個幾鐘，放棄好多間好學校入讀的。如果它耽誤我小朋友，我第一時間閃人，得閒係度分享。

佢對中文的學習、中國的了解，其實係保持少少距離，比較理性，吾係愛我中華，錦繡河山果種，對我來說，其實恰當。

minirat

原帖由 friendlyguy 於 15-02-22 發表
Just curious to know what is your comment, as a singaporean, about a through train school to pre-u l ...

Apparently one thing I like about SIS is the through train arrangement.  I never believe in elitism of kids at such young age.  PSLE is likewise meaningless to me as well.