轉為直資的英中名校「貴族化」之謎？

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"由家陣名校飛身轉為直資現象睇, 好明顯直資制度好過晒官津制度啦, 甘教統局不如直接取消官津制度,轉晒直資制度, 甘就肯定冇「貴族化」問題出現啦....... "    I suspect this is what would happen in many years.  With much more DSS schools, the 貴族化 problem will be diluted

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And what is wrong with these schools, or any schools for that matter, taking funding from government?  Let's not forget these fundings are for the benefit of the children in those schools.

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"他指本港公營學校是全世界最出色"??? Seriously?  There are tons of good US high schools.  

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回復 囝囝爸 的帖子

But he is not looking at the overall education system.  His reasoning was "因津貼學校當中也有出色學校，而非如外國只見於私校".  That's why I said for countries like the US, there are some really outstanding public schools as well.  

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So sad but true.  Singapore has done very well in recent years.  HK is about the same as 1997  

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回復 shadeslayer 的帖子

But that is exactly the problem!  Nothing gets executed in HK.  It gets discussed, criticized and then nothing happens.  Actually, kind of like posting in a forum like this!  

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回復 囝囝爸 的帖子

若然你相信 Stephen Krashen 在閱讀方面的研究, 悅而不能是不會發生的。只不過，他的"能"並不是成績好!

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回復 shadeslayer 的帖子

Freedom?  Yes.  But also large amount of self-censorship.  

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Just comparing with Singapore!  China is not even close.

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回復 囝囝爸 的帖子

Wrong channel!  I gave you the name of a professor with research in reading and language acquisition and you give me a lecture on your superior judgement and belief in research.

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My original comment on reading was to respond to your comment "其實能讀才是家長心底所想，悅而不能，不能反映在語文成績上，有鬼用!"  Stephen Krashen's research basically said language acquisition comes from reading.  And reading comes from the joy of reading.  Even specific teaching of grammar and rules are not as effective compared to reading a book that you like and enjoy.

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回復 囝囝爸 的帖子

There are plenty of research in this area and pretty conclusive.  Culturally, it is very common for parents to read to child especially before they can read for themselves.  Sample research here:
http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/half-of-parents-with-young-children-read-to-them-every-day/

Since you are research focused, can you share with us a research which shows that reading does not work?

I don't believe in external motivation.  Too short-sighted for me.  Maybe it works for some to get ahead in the next test but we are running marathons.  

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咁你其實想 "我更相信硏究數據，其雖非完美理想，但總好過少能以廣泛數據支持的單一自我所想" 定係 "各自不同、成效有異的現實"?   就算成效有異都係小成同大成既分別，唔會有害掛?


"閲樂而學的簡單良方"好似係CKY既教學方法喎,  EK家長對CKY既學位我相信一定係供不應求!

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明白!  原來係由你自由選擇, 咁我當然要聽你講啦。


不過你文不對題喎, "因津貼學校當中也有出色學校，而非如外國只見於私校" 係講個別學校出色。所以我指出美國有D公立High School 都唔失禮。你既 "培生世界教育" 係講全國教育系統?  

更何況我冇話美國好D喎, 指出有好學校唔等於係一個比較, 明嗎？

你自己話 "真可用閲樂而學的簡單良方。 我信西方社會亦不能", 咁我俾成間學校做例子你又話單一, 不如你證明俾我睇全世界冇 "閲樂而學的簡單良方"啦？

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You know what, forget it, these are minor points in a meaningless conversation.  Better to save energy to discuss real issues.

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回復 囝囝爸 的帖子

唔失禮 is an understatement to avoid unnecessary argument.  I also don't think a comparison is valid here since the US is a country with a much larger population.  But if you are interested to know, there are some really good public high schools in the US that are several levels above "皇仁、PBS、聖喇拔".  As an example, Stuyesant is probably the best public high school in New York City.  So far, four nobel laureates.  Is any HK school even close?

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回復 囝囝爸 的帖子

Don't worry about overall or one-on-one.  Just trying to say what a good US high school would look like.  It is really very impressive.  Try looking it up on Wiki.

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回復 ANChan59 的帖子

As the others are debating Chinese and English levels, I started to think about the level of Chinese in IS in HK.  In the IB program at DBS, do you know how many students take Chinese as a subject and also at what level do they take it at?

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I really don't see why large amount of reading is even up for discussion.  It is the best way for language acquisition period.  It is borne out by research and also lots of different anecdotal examples.  Of course, everyone who read will benefit to a different degree but I don't see how this can even be up for argument.  No time to look at all the old threads, can someone tell me what does 囝囝爸 believe as the best way to learn a language?