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annie40 發表於 15-9-12 08:02
但發現遺漏的補充是海外和香港念IB, 大部份學校有篩選學生，甚至部份學校有嚴格篩選學生后才讓他們讓入讀，因此能考獲IB（HL）7分成績的2%的，相對是得5**的2%,（有收無類），分野極大吧。

這一點是很多人刻意忽略的，因此比較 % 冇意思。
真正想比較 IB 和 DSE ，我建議家長上網找幾份 IB sample 或 past paper 參考。
語文科可以看看 Chinese A 和 English A，用 Chinese A 和 DSE Chinese 比較一下試題的要求。
用 English A 和 DSE English 比，就見 DSE English 是 second language 水平。
看看 Theory of Knowledge 和 Extended Essay 的 curriculum，再看看一些學生作品 （網上大把) ，就知 3 分 so called bonus points 唔易攞。
有説 DSE LS 似 TOK，我話一D都唔似的。
IB HL 科，有 5 分，在很多大學是在可以 claim exemption ( credits ) ， DSE 有 5** 都冇呢個安排。再實際 D，唔好信我，同大學 professor 傾，到底 IB 生係唔係比 DSE 生差。
講完。
其實冇所謂，由有 DSE 第一日，我見 D 人話 DSE 比 IB 難，我由佢地沉迷下去。

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ANChan59  你令有些家長情何以堪 ... 事實是最難面對 ....

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IB want students to be open minded. So I guess we as parents have to be as well. TOK is a very interesting curriculum. IB students are very lucky to have the opportunity to explore in that area. How much can each student get from the classes or curriculum is another thing of course. But at least they had the chance to look into that area.
He is not totally wrong. I guess some student would fit better with DSE. And they should not move to IB school. No. IB is really not for everyone.

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samsam123321 發表於 15-9-15 20:08
現實係，好多香港本地生係讀唔掂ib,有好多人係只讀5科dse,不乎合ib 要求。

Do you have a child in IBDP already?Thank you for speaking for IBDP. But many of your information regarding IBDP do not seem to be valid.
If your child is already in IBDP, may be you should investigate more into the program.
And your comments regarding the ability of IB students vs DSE students do not seem to be fair.

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annie40 發表於 15-9-15 23:08
唔好再拗，大家唔同學制，唔好再講邊個易過邊個，邊個易？其實要睇睇系邊個讀噃，更唔好攞個銀行存摺來晒如 ...

Indeed.This discussion is now leading to no where.

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poonseelai 發表於 15-9-17 08:25
英基和我女兒學校每年約兩成多孩子入讀本地大學, 我用三成計即900個 , 佔每年政府資助18000位約5%, 又假設每年經非聯招收两成, 即3600個,

Non Jupas 包括重讀生和其他非 DSE 的本地生，例如 asso 和 ive 等。
內地生也是 non jupas。
唔好乜都入 IB 數，
其實 IB 生如果 target 本地，主要是入 med 和 law ，其實有不少學生，跟本不會申請本地學校，有人 med 出晒 offer 都唔去，去了外國讀。

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poonseelai 發表於 15-9-17 08:25
作為IB家長我都想知有幾着數和着數了幾多, 我無大學數據就用土法, 在國際版有家長列出2015 IB 成績和人數,  ...

看數據冇意思，因為除了 med 和 law ，其實 IB 生傾向愛出國，呢點和家庭背景有關。
我建議問你自己學校拿拿 offers 的數據作參考，因為 non-jupas 可以有 multiple offers。
不少 typical local IB 學生，可以手上有本地三四個 offer ，美國一兩個，英國一兩個，甚至加拿大澳洲等又一兩個。
看 offers 就知 IB 是否有 D 人講到咁差。
ESF 在本地 IB ，成績只一般，但年年都很多入到本地 med 和 law ，英國 med 和 law 更加多 ( 唔好質疑人點解去英國，大把人有 british citizenship ) ，還有， ivy league mit stanford 都收唔少 IB ，人地是蠢的嗎？
如果有人認為連世界名大都咁豬，比 IB 欺騙，收埋收埋咁多冇用的學生，咁似乎 IBO 真係好本事。
咁，地球真係好危險，不如去火星住。
話時話，UCAS tariff 個表下面講明，大學可以唔跟，各位自己去睇 wordings。

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poonseelai 發表於 15-9-17 11:14
這未計讀完DP1後出國讀foundation 再入大學

有 D 極端例子，是 DP1 後直入 U。

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caa 發表於 15-9-17 16:25
Ha ha 就是有人話呀豬呀狗都可讀

是但啦，佢有佢話。
單單 ESF ，年年都大把人入外國名大，HKU CUHK med law 也有。



其實冇得呃人，呃得一屆，呃唔到第二屆。
大學收到一批學生，等大半年，學生水平已現形。
如發現實力唔夠，點會年年 keep 住比 offer 比 IB 生？

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講到甚麼 "踩中條尾"，又甚麼 "被扒祖墳"，真係無言。

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ANChan59  阿豬阿狗年年到係咁講 ... 睬黎晒氣  

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冇所謂，生肖是豬和狗，印象中人品唔錯。
我仔是老鼠，好愛吃。我朋友個仔是蛇，成日 "打蛇餅" ---- 瞓。

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mattsmum 發表於 15-9-19 12:09
i bet your children don't come to this website. if they do, they would tell us to stop arguing, "it  ...

To be honest, the majority of the IB parents and children are not Chinese speaking. And even if they do, most do not come to EK. The IB parents that come to EK do want to make the picture clearer to non-IB parents. We have no intention to look down on other curriculum. But if someone wants to provide people with inaccurate information about IB, we need to speak up.
BTW, I personally do not care how DSE students are doing. Not my business.
Curious why some DSE parents love to stalk IB discussions.......

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ANChan59 發表於 15-9-19 13:03
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你同我都知點解！只是厚道些。

厚道 ?
Sorry, I would no longer be 厚道 because some people just enjoy insulting IB students.
Period.

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chanpa  Chi, Eng and LS are greatest barrier to science students while the science subjects are a little bit   發表於 昨天 22:47

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Barrier? Why should a language class be a barrier?
Why science students should be excused from being able to have reasonable language skills? Why should science students be excused from studying LS?
All IB students take 2 languages plus TOK + EE.

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ANChan59 發表於 15-9-21 23:16
Did you check the IBO website and get some basic info ?

There have been lots of discussions about TOK + EE on EK. Those that have genuine interest in IB should have noticed.