八月bb想入international school .可以遲一年先讀書嗎？

FattyDaddy

bladerunner 發表於 15-4-7 20:46
有沒有足夠Common sense 係視乎學識、見識、經驗與分析力，你有嗎？點計你有排都未及得上。
我説的全部是事 ...

It isn't about me, I'm talking about readers here in general, and yes I do think most of them are educated and have enough common sense to decide for themselves what is norm and exception. However your having to repeatedly stress you know better does indicate a deep sense of condescension and mistrust.

Anyway, not interested in petty arguments, so I'll leave it at that.

FattyDaddy

bladerunner 發表於 15-4-7 21:11
其實在經驗豐富的父母眼中，才懂判斷那些是norm，那些是exception，最重要的是那條是冤枉路。 ...

Hehe, so you think most people don't know and only you know? and you're here to teach us? Just say yes

nintendo

Are we having an old friend back here?
A gentle reminder to everyone.
You'd better be more polite or you will be banned (again).

jolalee

Just like to share a video I just saw:
https://www.facebook.com/popachannel/videos/1461985054092312/

Very well illustrated on how solid language exposure from age 0-3 is detrimental to a child's development. Unless you can express everything equally well in both languages, stick to your own mother-tongue. As I mentioned, in hind sight, I would've spoken to my boy more in Chinese if I knew earlier on (even though I can name most objects & describe the situations illustrated quite well in English, and cannot recite any Chinese poetry )

imconfusing

原帖由 jolalee 於 15-04-16 發表
Just like to share a video I just saw:
https://www.facebook.com/popachannel/videos/1461985054092312/ ...

Morning ! Yes I watched that on fb yesterday . It's so true. I can't describe 油笠笠，烏jojo , 黏立立in English

I believe most parents would love to speak with their Lo in their own language. But at the same time how to train up kids' English skill.

happyhealthymin

原帖由 jolalee 於 15-04-16 發表
Just like to share a video I just saw:
https://www.facebook.com/popachannel/videos/1461985054092312/ ...

I also watched. It is not conclusive that we must use our mother tongue to communicate with our children. A speech therapist replied to the video, which gives a more balanced view.

imconfusing

原帖由 lisinchi 於 15-04-16 發表
本帖最後由 lisinchi 於 15-4-16 12:52 編輯

Then I think a private tutor would help.

jolalee

imconfusing 發表於 15-4-16 10:08
Morning ! Yes I watched that on fb yesterday . It's so true. I can't describe 油笠笠，烏jojo , 黏立 ...

My family is English heavy so we started off with English. By age 2.5 he was pretty solid and that's when I started with more Chinese exposure. This includes:1) Positive correlation with the language. No scolding, mainly loving interaction in Chinese.
2) Interest classes in Chinese. Trust me, that one is hard to find in our area, at least the quality ones.
3) Play dates. Try to get my son to interact with Chinese speaking kids as much as possible (most of his friends are English speakers)

I think for Chinese heavy families, just have it in reverse. We are lucky in HK to have quality English language & activity centres everywhere. Sometimes I find it harder to find high quality activities conducted in Chinese! As for play dates, as long as you are taking your child to a playgroup with a strong expats population, you should be able to find kids for him to play with if you are friendly with the moms & aunties.

Do not worry too much. If a family provides a solid language exposure from birth, the child should be able to speak in simple phrases by 2-2.5 (depending on the gender & character of the child). Once he is able to do that than you can add a second language, and the child should be able to peg it to his existing core language. By age 3.5 my son was able to speak fluently in both. If you notice any language delays by 2.5, seek professional help and best to stick to one's own mother tongue. Again, NO TV /iPhone /iPad /computer before age 2!! (I only started using one single language when my son was 10 months old, so don't worry if your child is already a bit older, just stick to your mother tongue when in doubt)

imconfusing

原帖由 jolalee 於 15-04-16 發表
本帖最後由 jolalee 於 15-4-16 14:05 編輯

Thx for your advice ! Yea i guess I'm already doing what u were doing , the reversed version. Still I'm in doubt that my son would have too little exposure in English if we have 0 English at home . Well our maid speaks in English but I don't see that is a formal way of learning .We have play date every week and it lasts only an hour or so . That is definitely not enough if he needs to gear up for IS pre nursery.

So May be we should have an English story time every night ? Or a playing section every day like an hour solely in English ?What do U think ?I know you don't agree parents to switch back and forth in language, so that kids won't be confused and thus delaying their language development..

FattyDaddy

Hehe, many "scientific" studies like to use extreme cases. I guess if a parent could only describe any kind of avian creature as "bird, bird, and bird", and any kind of untidiness as "dirty, dirty, and dirty", then of course he/she should not insist on using English :)

imconfusing

http://www.ted.com/talks/patrici ... _babies?language=en

found this interesting linguistic research. worth to take alook

21Ckid

jolalee 發表於 15-4-16 09:09
Just like to share a video I just saw:
https://www.facebook.com/popachannel/videos/1461985054092312/ ...

The study quoted in the video has a serious flaw in its logic. One can easily deduce a 9 year old kid from a well off background will have better intelligence and linguistic skills than one on social benefits (genetic, resources, etc). That study is pointless. I may as well deduce that one living in a larger home will develop better intelligence and linguistic skills.

FattyDaddy

lisinchi 發表於 15-4-16 17:44
那video提及背後的studies並非採用任何extreme cases。

No I was not saying the studies behind are extreme, I was saying the video wanted to appear "scientific" but used pretty extreme examples :)

AJW2010

原帖由 jolalee 於 15-04-16 發表
本帖最後由 jolalee 於 15-4-16 14:05 編輯

Same here.  I talked to my little one in English before 3 years old.  Then, i switched to Cantonese and brought her to Chinese interest class.  She resisted the change at first, but adapted well after a few months.  Now she is 4.5 years old.  She can speak fluent Cantonese, but still lacks vocabulary sometimes.  I guess it just takes time to develop her dictionary.

I have confident in young kids for picking up new language as I found they are very good in understanding the context.   My mandarin-speaking mother-in-law stayed at my home for a few months this year.  My girl understood completely what she said.

FattyDaddy

lisinchi 發表於 15-4-16 19:00
那些例子的確十分經典並常見，並非extreme cases ...

So you're saying in general HK parents could only describe all kinds of feathered animals as birds, birds, and birds? :)