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仔仔終於學完IPA啦~真係好有用 [複製鏈接]

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發表於 12-3-11 00:38 |只看該作者
If one is learning stuff like θ, ð, dʒ, tʃ, aʊ, ɛ, etc (IPA symbols), he/she is taking a phonetics course.  Otherwise, if one is learning how to pronounce "play, day, gray, may, etc", he/she is probably in a phonics class.

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發表於 12-3-11 00:49 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 yyhung 於 12-3-11 01:06 編輯

討論區是發表感受的平台,真不明白有D不懷好意的人以小人之心暗串別人,本人的確有收到PM (數個),但我沒有介紹過任何老師或留老師電話比人,如有請大家公開串我吧~ 我只是以一個家長的心態認為IPA有助我仔仔發音及DICT,(我認為對DICT.有用係因為老師主要係教音標(IPA symbols),但也有教仔仔如何分音節,所以仔仔用分音節呢個方式黎記生字,而唔係完全唔洗溫甘攞100分)我沒有意思要介紹人去搵老師學,我亦無答PM內的有心人老師的關絡方法! 請某些小人唔好以為"唔知有心定無意,相信樓主一定收到唔少PM"


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發表於 12-3-11 08:41 |只看該作者

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發表於 12-3-11 09:27 |只看該作者
http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/courses/ipaexam/ipa-exam.htm


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發表於 12-3-11 09:51 |只看該作者
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發表於 12-3-11 10:39 |只看該作者
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/psychlangsci/scep


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發表於 12-3-11 12:41 |只看該作者

引用:+http://www.ucl.ac.uk/psychlangsci/scep

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發表於 12-3-11 14:13 |只看該作者
ˌɪnkəˌmjunɪˈkɑdo

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發表於 12-3-11 14:48 |只看該作者
really? it took some teacher 2-3 years to teach this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English


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發表於 12-3-11 14:57 |只看該作者

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發表於 12-3-11 15:01 |只看該作者
回復 hkmom 的帖子

Looking at the symbols, I believe phonetic = IPA...It's not easy.  I am also learning it (at my age, it's definitely difficult).  But I think it's very useful.  At least, I could pronous the word correctly.  I have been wrongly pronouce the words together, guitar, etc for ages, even the word "phonetic", I just pronouce it correctly recently.  My tutor says, even the uneducated westerners do not really say the words correctly.

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發表於 12-3-11 22:05 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 hkmom 於 12-3-11 22:05 編輯

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Glad that you like the course.  Yes, for adults like us who pick up something new (esp when we are talking about language and linguistic things), it's really difficult.  However, if you are determined and have the passion, just go for it and your example will mean a lot to your young one(s) at home (if any) and people around you.

Knowing how to say the individual words correctly is one thing.  Reading or speaking them in a sentence fluently is another.  Hope you'll become a fluent and confident speaker of English in the near future.  Ganbade!



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發表於 12-3-11 22:13 |只看該作者
回復 hkmom 的帖子

Thanks a lot hkmom.  But I am a little slow in learning and understanding...Yes, it's not benefit for dictation, but we could speak fluently after learning it.  This is my experience working at my company.  If you don't pronouce the word correctly, the westerner will really laugh at you (look like you are monster and they act like they really not understanding what you are taling about)

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發表於 12-3-12 06:11 |只看該作者
IPA好有用, 不過,係真係學完之後會努力自修先有用,不過,對默書應該無咩關係,我學果個IPA都係千幾蛟,十堂,之後自己自修就OK 架喇喎!

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發表於 12-3-12 10:45 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 Mighty 於 12-3-12 05:45 編輯

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番看ORIGINAL THREAD,又的確会令人誤会是有意無意地売広告、但看見楼主並非新国民、疑心減低了。 BUT清者自清、何必介懷Madscientist的説話! 不過就真係IPA是不会HELP DICTATION 的。 ”名符其實港式英文,無尾音無捲"利”、其実英文不用巻「利」的、美文才要呢(^-^)。 因我是英国狗、看見就不得不「紏」一下。 閑談閑談、不用緊張。
Mighty
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發表於 12-3-12 12:10 |只看該作者

引用:回復+hkmom+的帖子 Thanks+a+lot+hkmom.++

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發表於 12-3-12 12:36 |只看該作者
我覺得IPA有用之處係查字典就可以知道個字要點樣讀。但要明白和記得那些符號,其實本身要識一定數量的字才學得較輕鬆。
我爸爸在我小三時開始教我查字典, 順便教我字典裏那些讀音符號,記得當時是查一些已很熟悉的字,去明白和記。
小朋友太細去學,可能會事倍功半。其實家長若能自己去了解一下,回家再慢慢教子女,可以慳很多$$$。
for every one criticism, three positives must be given.

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發表於 12-3-12 16:15 |只看該作者
回復 madscientist 的帖子

有D IPA課程是教埋ORAL ENGLISH的LINKING&OMISSION等等、在SPEAKING&LISTENING方面的確有用。
Mighty
love you for you
自分に負けるな!!

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發表於 12-3-13 22:59 |只看該作者
我都俾我個仔學RWI,事實係唔錯既因為你學完會識拼字音,同埋人地讀出黎你可以靠個音知道係咩字,知道個原音
對說話都會有用d

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發表於 12-3-14 20:42 |只看該作者
回復 最愛 的帖子

Someone says phonics can help one to guess the spelling of a word (or vice versa its pronunciation by looking at how it spells) for some 60-70% or 70-80% of English words.  This is irrespective of the means through which one learns phonics (i.e. RWI, Letterland, Jolly, KWIK phonics, Hooked on phonics, etc).
For example, phonics can't help for words like encore, debut, lieutenant, colonel, debris, etc.
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