想知邊幾間直資學校有問題

beywat496

除了真道之外, 傳媒就無公佈啦。

motherotk

至今全港72 間直資學校中，竟只有34 間明文承諾接受審計署查閱賬目，比率少於一半。故此有直資學校如今還稱，類似事件只是個別「害群之馬」所為，恐怕站不住腳。單看審計署踢爆的其中一項「罪名」：未遵從當局規定，撥出足夠獎助學金予清貧學生申請，在署方審查的67 間中，已經有22 間違規，比率足達三分之一。

原帖由 beywat496 於 10-11-19 09:05 發表
除了真道之外, 傳媒就無公佈啦。

motherotk

學校享有自由的同時不懂自律


香港經濟日報

教學及收生彈性，令有關學校連財政運作及管治同樣變得自由，審計報告揭發直資連串糊塗帳，反映學校享有自由的同時不懂自律，更揭示教育局監管力度不足。
據現行規定，直資學校若出現持續違規，教育局可停止津貼；然而，雖任何資助模式學校，包括直資，其帳目均要由教育局審核，局方發現資助學校存在不當做法，會進一步跟進，但對直資則沒有有關跟進。
直資學校帳目混亂已非首次，基督教臻美黃乾亨小學暨初中學校，去年便被揭發，校監涉及利益輸送，向學校預支外判服務費予自己擔任主席的服務機構。當局早應在黃乾亨事件中汲取教訓，加強監察，或可避免今次被審計署「捉賊拿贓」。
目前直資學校經常津貼每年達24億元，公帑必須用得其所，尤其教育界正面臨縮班殺校。

原帖由 motherotk 於 10-11-19 09:19 發表
至今全港72 間直資學校中，竟只有34 間明文承諾接受審計署查閱賬目，比率少於一半。故此有直資學校如今還稱，類似事件只是個別「害群之馬」所為，恐怕站不住腳。單看審計署踢爆的其中一項「罪名」：未遵從當局規定，撥出足夠獎助 ...

annaanna

審計署署長話，十間直資有九間都有問題

我反而想知邊間冇問題囉

motherotk

This comments are not only related to LOGO, but related to all DSS schools...

I have two kids going through the P1 interviews in the past few years and all to DSS schools and I observed:

1) some "leaders" were really good in their presentations (say, consistent, genuine and understand or admit their own limitations)

2) some "leaders (e.g. principal, usually presented in seminer)" seemed to be presentable, seemed to have great "missions", seemed to be very "loving" and with great "visions" or "professional in education"

BUT.... you will see the inconsistencies in their "resentations in Admission Seminar" and the "Realities of P 1 admission interview process"

3) Give some examples that I do think is "unethical" in their practice or "inconsistencies"

a) "Loving" principal avoid to admit the "administration mistakes" e.g. releasing of results before the completion of interview process and telling "lies" on their administrative incompencies....

b) "Elite" types of principal was selling his books at the interview day and their staff was encouraging the parents who were waiting for their kids to buy the book and asked the principal to sign the book...

c) "Visionable" type of principal was selling their vision by not revealing the uncertainties or realities of  IB curriculum to their "die hard fans"  - there was no obvious lies, but concealing or keeping silence may be fatal as well!!

d) "Loving and caring principal" did not stopped unfair admission procedures, even encouraging "discriminative knocking door" practices to fulfill his own "pride" or "ignorance"

What do you think....do you think these leaders needs training in "educational ethics" or "self-understanding" courses again???? So that they are more aware of themselves; more aware that they "mission" and "vision" or "love and caring hearts" does not help, but also damaging their school reputations as well as damaging the parents and students...

原帖由 annaanna 於 10-11-19 09:34 發表
審計署署長話，十間直資有九間都有問題

我反而想知邊間冇問題囉

cpcog

so, will the PLK ones better?? At least PLK is a good education assoication.

WChan

其實上次臻美單野之後, 政府就應該加強監管啦, 直資概念係好, 但太自由咩都唔理就係政府既問題.

motherotk

教局無視….警告
校本管理終敗壞直資／文﹕李先知

【明報專訊】最新一期的政府審計報告審計署長指出，「教育局請我來看病，即是醫生驗身，梗有問題，10個（中）9個都有問題」。由於全港直資學校每年經手處理的學費及政府資助金額高逾50億，因此事情可謂十分嚴重。教育界立法會代表張文光透露，教協已收到很多針對直資的投訴，而這些投訴都提到「政府規管不嚴」的問題，但官員一直以這些學校正實行「校本管理」，拒絕受理。
綜合教育界人士昨日的意見，今次直資學校被揭發的管理混亂，其成因除與部分學校話事人的「誠信」有關，……..當年教統常秘羅范椒芬做錯了…..決定，當時的教統局還特別批出過渡性津貼及學校改善工程資助，鼓勵這些學校轉型，並且「附送」寬鬆的「校本管理制度」來誘使學校轉為「直資」。結果，一批為求自保的津貼中學和多間按額津貼中學，在管理未完善的情况下，急忙追趕上了「直資」快車。……….寄望立法會帳目委員會依法進行聆訊，並提出加強監管的訴求，令政府有藉口整頓直資的管治

原帖由 WChan 於 10-11-19 11:24 發表
其實上次臻美單野之後, 政府就應該加強監管啦, 直資概念係好, 但太自由咩都唔理就係政府既問題.

ANChan59

原帖由 motherotk 於 10-11-19 09:19 發表
至今全港72 間直資學校中，竟只有34 間明文承諾接受審計署查閱賬目，比率少於一半。故此有直資學校如今還稱，類似事件只是個別「害群之馬」所為，恐怕站不住腳。單看審計署踢爆的其中一項「罪名」：未遵從當局規定，撥出足夠獎助 ...

The AD is no right to audit those 38 schools (If my memory is correct, should be less than 38), not the problem of the school. According to the report, the EDB didn't put in the item in the agreement between the EDB and the education institution. It's the mess of EDB.

kc_01k

原帖由 cpcog 於 10-11-19 11:23 發表
so, will the PLK ones better?? At least PLK is a good education assoication.

I have the same thinking.

Charlotte_mom

係啦! 批個牌出黎, 都要理下架!
除左為納稅人, 亦為班學生同家長啦

原帖由 WChan 於 10-11-19 11:24 AM 發表
其實上次臻美單野之後, 政府就應該加強監管啦, 直資概念係好, 但太自由咩都唔理就係政府既問題.

bobo_ling

原帖由 annaanna 於 10-11-19 09:34 發表
審計署署長話，十間直資有九間都有問題

我反而想知邊間冇問題囉

ha ha ha....我都係咁話...

fotk

the list should be opened and all the DSS should be under investigations...

原帖由 bobo_ling 於 10-11-19 22:04 發表

ha ha ha....我都係咁話...

kochiman2004

... I heard that other forum provided a list of those DSS school ... do any BK parents found it out ... thank you ...

brian61950

間間都有問題,睇下輕定重,犯唔犯法啫?
重則偷錢,以權謀私,乜都唔招標,益自己友....
輕則狂加自己及老師人工/福利,咁都用唔晒d學費及資助,就扮交流,校長老師排隊去旅行.再唔係日日起新野或裝修,總之一定要一個仙都冇得剩.
來年就可以攞多d資助及加學費.

motherotk

ALSO, possilbe misuse own "authority or power" to undermine the equal opportunities of kids in the admission process

原帖由 brian61950 於 10-11-20 10:27 發表
間間都有問題,睇下輕定重,犯唔犯法啫?
重則偷錢,以權謀私,乜都唔招標,益自己友....
輕則狂加自己及老師人工/福利,咁都用唔晒d學費及資助,就扮交流,校長老師排隊去旅行.再唔係日日起新野或裝修,總之一定要一個仙都冇 ...

[ 本帖最後由 motherotk 於 10-11-20 10:57 編輯 ]

kwanm

我相信違例不是少數直資學校的行爲.這是教育局長期放任, 缺乏指引和監管的結果.但正所謂"法不責衆",現在應該做的不是揪出"犯人",而是馬上加強監管,當然有部分不合時宜的條例也要及時檢討.
其實据我所知很多政府資助的機構更加浪費納稅人和捐助人的金錢。例如“康智會”。每閒中心都有一個月薪近十萬的所謂“高級經理”審核特殊開支，而每月的所謂“特殊開支”只不過是一萬幾千的例如“修繕”等項目。如果要“衡工量值”，這些怎麽算？當然如果在是否“違例”的角度它們完全沒有，但其實此類機構才是最浪費的，而且它們還打著“福利"的名目。再例如“  香港品牌發展局”，只不過是無能退休官員的避風塘，有幾多香港人知道這個機構，它做過什麽，有什麽效益，每年用了我們幾多錢？大家去“衡工量值”吧。

nicolemummy

直資十間有九間有問題. 基本上識得既都應該有問題.

我除左SPCC, DBS之外, 間間都唔識, 咁可能得一兩間有問題瓜...咁我唸SPCC同DBS應該無咁問題瓜, 就算有, 如果佢地肯OFFER, 我都會讀囉....

原帖由 beywat496 於 10-11-19 09:05 發表
除了真道之外, 傳媒就無公佈啦。

goo_littlebb

傳媒仲有講恒商儲備 2.2 億仍加學費五成.

原帖由 beywat496 於 10-11-19 09:05 發表
除了真道之外, 傳媒就無公佈啦。

motherotk

Other people doing the same thing does not mean the school leaders and administration do not need to be responsible

The following logics should not be encouraged:

I steal becuase a lot of people steal

I steal, and has be found, then I should not be challenged because there are lots of people steal and not been found

原帖由 kwanm 於 10-11-20 12:13 發表
我相信違例不是少數直資學校的行爲.這是教育局長期放任, 缺乏指引和監管的結果.但正所謂"法不責衆",現在應該做的不是揪出"犯人",而是馬上加強監管,當然有部分不合時宜的條例也要及時檢討.
其實据我所知很多政府資助 ...