基督教國際音樂小學

fairlady2005

Dear Jimmy2005,

You have so much anger in your heart. I do see that your family and your child need more support. Please (I am sincere) raise your concerns with the class teachers. I am sure the school will try best to help your child. As I said, if you don't have trust in this school, find another one.

Like Tingting and other prospective parents, we joined ICQM based on positive comments. And these nice comments have been proven accurate in many many cases.

I guess I need to stop wirting online on this issue as I find some responses too radical. The titles of "superwoman" or "saviour" are interesting but I am none of those. Parents who need information from ICQM may join parents' gathering or the church there.

jimmy2005

Fairlady女士,
      我沒有憤怒也沒有偏激,只是坦然陳述了自己的觀點,我覺得誠懇的批評遠勝於阿諛獻媚.希望您也能做到你所說的真誠坦白,不要因為孩子正在音小就讀而刻意偏袒維護,更不要想著把在這裡的言論作為對學校忠心耿耿的明證和餽贈,那就太虛偽拉.
      選擇和決定(針對家長們選擇學校而言)本身就意味信任,可是絕對的信任是需要不斷的灌注和持續的努力的,不可能一勞永逸,在這個過程中溝通是必須的.在此祝福每一位家長都能為孩子挑選到適合自己的學校並且幫助學校不斷的改善進步.

jimmy2005

tingting媽咪你好,
      我在這個主題開始的部分根據個人經歷和感受寫了一些關於音小現狀和存在問題的文章,請你參考.
      祝你的孩子能有愉快的學習生活

大媽

jimmy2005先生：
雖然我兒不是你此校學生，我更加不知內裡情况，我不方便加插言論於此，那我可作一個路過者來討論現今教育的普遍現象嗎？各人在不同的身份有

fairlady2005

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我覺得誠懇的批評遠勝於阿諛獻媚.希望您也能做到你所說的真誠坦白,不要因為孩子正在音小就讀而刻意偏袒維護,更不要想著把在這裡的言論作為對學校忠心耿耿的明證和餽贈,那就太虛偽拉.

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Jimmy2005,

我們都不屬於這種人格罷。老實說，我跟老師是無所不談的，包括您的訊息。我的孩子發展得很好，也沒有甚麽掛慮，我從來沒有想過要奉承誰。如果我唔Likee學校，隨時可以走；其他家長都一樣；音小臥虎藏龍，家長多有見識，真的希望您可以解開心結。

祝小一家長明天開學順利。

tlwtlw888

fairlady2005 寫道:

祝小一家長明天開學順利。

fairlady2005,

謝謝妳的祝福！

jimmy2005

"老實說，我跟老師是無所不談的，包括您的訊息。"
       您果然不出我所料,呵呵,只是沒想到速度比我想象中更快,如果參加排球運動,您一定是出色的二傳.不過這樣也好,歪打正著,如果這裡的評論能夠引起學校的關注和緊張並有所改善的話,倒也不失為一次善舉.到時候您就是"有心栽花柳成蔭"了.

"我的孩子發展得很好，也沒有甚麽掛慮，我從來沒有想過要奉承誰。如果我唔Likee學校，隨時可以走；"
      如果我沒有看錯的話,您所表現的態度應該不是這樣的呀?覺得不喜歡馬上就走,就那麼輕言放棄嗎?不是"責無旁貸role model"嗎?那就應該努力爭取直到發現無可救藥為止.

"真的希望您可以解開心結。"
        滿腹牢騷卻忍氣吞聲,意興闌珊卻粉飾太平,心急如焚卻故作輕鬆,幸災乐禍卻假裝關懷,但凡這幾類人都有心結.
捫心自問,我沒有心結,只有一些遺憾,音小有著良好的基礎和理念,但欠缺辦學的經驗與科學的管理,更可怕的是對自己缺乏反省和客觀,讓我感到失望.......
         如果有幸藉fairlady優秀的二傳技巧能讓學校管理層有所轉變的話,為了孩子們能擁有更美好的將來,我願意為我所說的話道歉一万次.

"祝小一家長明天開學順利。"
這句話百分之百的贊同,再加一句:"願神庇護所有的孩子,並賜於他們光輝燦爛的未來"

heilokmama

恕我這個路人插咀，大家都是家長，大家都想為自己的子女找一處最好最合適的地方升學。若果你喜歡音小，可以一抒己見，講講你點解鐘意。若果唔好彩，你不喜歡音小，甚至預計要轉校，你亦可以講出自己的不滿的地方。這並不是辯論，並不需要有一方把另一方「擊倒」才完結呢。

就好似我喜歡睇王家衞的電影，但係我老公就眼尾都唔瞄一下一樣，唔通我又要將我老公技術擊倒?

家長送自己的子女入讀一間學校，當然是希望老師能啟發自己的子女、教導自己的子女。

siuwa

heilokmama 寫道:
恕我這個路人插咀，大家都是家長，大家都想為自己的子女找一處最好最合適的地方升學。若果你喜歡音小，可以一抒己見，講講你點解鐘意。若果唔好彩，你不喜歡音小，甚至預計要轉校，你亦可以講出自己的不滿的地方。這並不是辯論，並不需要有一方把另一方「擊倒」才完結呢。

同意...大家出發點都係為小朋友好．辯論就唔係太好啦．　其實間間學校都有好同唔好之處，　如果ｄ家長肯share D意見對學校同學生都有好處．　　

fairlady2005

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heilokmama 寫道:
恕我這個路人插咀，大家都是家長，大家都想為自己的子女找一處最好最合適的地方升學。若果你喜歡音小，可以一抒己見，講講你點解鐘意。若果唔好彩，你不喜歡音小，甚至預計要轉校，你亦可以講出自己的不滿的地方。這並不是辯論，並不需要有一方把另一方「擊倒」才完結呢。


Agreed. I felt very sad after reading Jimmy2005's criticism. His tone is not very pleasant. We are all here talking about how best we can make use of available opportunities to help our children. But Heilomama was right that that was no longer a sensible discussion. I still think that it's not proper to crticise the others in such a way. It is either not proper to use God's name in such a way at the end of a message. I am dismayed. Again, this is a personal opinion.

Since some parents have asked for more information/opinion, here is a brief account of my views. I truly think that this is a good school. Teachers are working hard to build up a good environment and structure for kids. You will feel that they are very "true". There are very good human elements in the school system. In many organizations,the most problematic area is about "human" and politics. At ICQM, human is an asset,not a problem.

In terms of academic curriculum, it adequate so far. More improvements will be made,as i understand that the school has recruited some more nice people including some from EMB and tertiary education. it is also true that there are a lot more to work on. But with the commitment of teachers, I am optimistic.

The area that I like most is the flexibility given to developing potentials or making up weaknesses of individual students. That comes from love of teachers too. Same as in any context, if both parents and teachers can make efforts together, the impact will be more impressive.

If there are anymore "constructive" questions, I will be happy to share my experiences on helping my child to adapt to a new environment. I understand that some ICQM new parents are reading this site too.

kikibaba

Dear Fairlady,

Frankly, if I were you, I feel the same way too.
Anyway, thank you for your sharings coz I was quite shock when I read his comments couple of days ago on ICQM. My daughter will start her G1 live in ICQM tommorrow and I feel better now after I've read your last advice and comments.
Critisims can hurt, but we can find peace in him!
Hope we can make our school a success  together in the near future!!! Let's work it out!

Kikimama

tatmingpoon

it seems that it come to an irrational agrue rather than frankly discussion. All the parties concerned need a break, I want to speak a few words of encouragement to the teachers, Miss W Y Kwok, Mr Mak Tsz Bun, Miss Siu, Miss Pui, Mr Ngai (PE teacher) , Miss Cheung and many others teachers are very good, Pls pardon me if I miss some. I just worried whether they will be too busy and too much burden and workload on them, human being is not machine, they also need a rest and should have their private life, if they collapse, it's not worthwhile. They are very devoted already but should not at the expenses or their life or health, let them have more space and flexibiltiy. Give them some encouragement. :  :  :  :  :  :  :  :

Rainbow2005

Criticisms are more often "constructive" than "destructive". If such things as "今天讓你背三字經,明天一下子就去背默唐詩", "一年級一共12課,有六課是下學期最後兩個月學完的" do exist, the teachers relly should be more serious about their teaching programming. Teachers are expected to be professionals. I don't think there is anything wrong with Jimmy 2005's high expectation for the school. Although parents' cooperation is vital in children's education, parents have no obligation to take over the school's duty. I say so because I myself is a teacher. I have students whose parents are illiterate. What they expect from our school is obvious and reasonable, which also partly confirms the necessity of the existence of a school. Unless the school is selective about children's parents, I don't think they have any reason to neglect Jimmy2005's concern.

DLi

Hi,各位BK friends,

我也是ICQM的家長呀, 很高興和大家在這裹分亨對這校的意見, 我的小孩是從一間 band 1小學, 在去年小一下學期轉來的, so far, I still believe this is a good school.

有不少人問我音小好嗎? 我每每告訴他們音小很適合我們一家, 也乎合我夫婦對小孩成長的冀望。他們又問我, 這是一所新校, 你不担心嗎? 我說有得必有失, 我清楚知道新辦學校的問題, 但我樂於與學校一起承担和成長, 因我們相信音小所帶給我們一家的, 是我們所冀望的教育。

從學術水平來說此校真的不及我小孩 band 1 的舊校, 課程篇排也不及舊校有系統, 但這是一般新校所經歷之路程, 所以我沒有太大的 surprise, 相反, 很多時我和班主任及各科老師溝通時, 他們著實考慮我的意見, 有接受的, 有不接受的, 對我而言, 這已經非常足夠了。況且, 我對初小的學術水平要求不高, 因為我相信初小是培養自我學習興趣的階段, 讓他們能自我提昇學習能力和興趣, 成果總有一天看出來, 就算沒有上乘的

囡囡mummy

各位我可能與某些發表的家長相識,以下的"實話實說" 可能會令人討厭, 但沒有問題了, 小女兒已經轉了校, 我亦不需要對任何人交待.

"實話實說" -
(1) 學校的老師百分之一百零一好人, 有愛心.
(2) 學校的行政百分之一百零一混亂,無system.
(3) 學校的課程百分之一百零一混亂,無system, 無溝通, 各有各發揮.
(4) 學校的學生程度百分之一百零一失望 (轉校要重讀 -- 只是普通的津校程度都不能達到).

什麼也好, 已經轉校(只可以安慰小女兒重新來一次, 不要再做 "井底之蛙", 現實就是現實).

我只是最不藉的是 ---- 家長和學校的教師, 員工"混熟", 就可以得到學校的考試 Tips及重點 --太不公平了   我不希罕, 真正的實力才是小朋友學到多少的印證.

我在此祝願 "有辨法"的那些家長可以以後都有辨法, 亦祝她們的兒子/女兒能夠以後一路順利.  

grease

having no respect to parents' complaints even suggestions, that is really a big drawback in the speaking of school self-develop. attitude says everything. if schoolrunning lacked an open-atmosphere, we can see who whould pay the bill at last. that is horrible.
school learning is essentially different with preschool learning. the latter one is rather in an obscuration state. but, when children reach to school age, their knowledge structure be more complicated and more rational, accordingly, their learning method need to be updated as well. learning is rather a task than interest. though we say we shouldn't push children too much,  we also can't deny the fact that school learning is preparation for tomorrow survival. primary school serves key role in the turning point of learning. any inadvertence may cause hidden trouble in consistency and proportionality of knowledge structure.
as for forwarding this thread to teacher or principle of this school...i am afraid this would cause some confusion in position. sharing is good, but parents have better way to deliver their thoughts to power structure.

jimmy2005

shiungsnchan,kpolish你們好:
呵呵,如來兩位所述,那這個主題上只有兩個人在對話了(同意我意見的和反對我意見的)
我在這個主題上想說的話都已經表達完畢了,也沒有甚麼需要補充了,請大可不必發揮想像對號入座.
網站論壇是大家討論問題的地方,我感謝大家真誠的回應(包括贊同和反對的聲音).

fairlady2005

I believe Rainbow2005 is a truly a teacher.

I am not sure about the others but I don't want to guess.

Hi, parents of P1. How is your Day One? My child was very happy to be with his teachers and friends again. Yesterday, your children should have received the lunch menu. The lunch menu was quite well last year. (But some children prefer to have their own home-made lunches.) You may ask your child to choose the food they like from the menu. Children usually like making choices for themselves. Today, teachers may distribute timetables. Try to go through the timetable with your kids, learn the names of different subject teachers. on preferences of your children.

Over the weekend, children may try to pack their school bags according to the timetable. If children manage to organize their school bags, you will feel more relaxed over the year!

Cheers,
fairlady
(I have only one account. So, I beleive there are other parents here... never mind.. All are free to be whoever ones wish.)

思佳媽咪

Hi, fairlady2005,

我保持緘默已久，因覺得爭論無意義，各人有各人的選擇和意見，怎麼變了人身攻擊呢？難得你孤軍作戰，相信是時候告一段落了。

我們另開平台討論學校的事吧，你是否有join另一家長設立的網頁呢？歡迎你加入我們：

http://www.phpbbserver.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=icqm

tlwtlw888

Hi 思佳媽咪：

不約而同，我亦剛剛發了 PM 給 fairlady2005 邀請她加入我們，這裏的爭辯真的應該告一段落了。

fairlady2005,

我們誠意邀請妳加入 ICQM private forum.