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Re: 資優可不可以訓練?

傻啦,我點會因不同意見而不高興

: 凡事有多方面看法是好的,我只不過是重伸我的看法.

事實上所謂閃咭只不過是云云教學方法的其中一種,並非新奇的事物,你能夠按孩子的需要自製閃咭/字咭當然是最好

,只希望大家能夠按自己小朋友的能力及興趣選擇培育的方法及重點,不要人云亦云.

只不過聰明的商人將簡單的事情複雜化的包裝手法實在令我眼界大開...(我是指某些廣告的內容...引用一些似是而非的理論..)

睡覺寫道:
噢...dr.t...我並無惡意呀........不要誤會呀~~

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dr.t....

agreed...

Dr.T 寫道:
傻啦,我點會因不同意見而不高興 : 凡事有多方面看法是好的,我只不過是重伸我的看法.

事實上所謂閃咭只不過是云云教學方法的其中一種,並非新奇的事物,你能夠按孩子的需要自製閃咭/字咭當然是最好 ,只希望大家能夠按自己小朋友的能力及興趣選擇培育的方法及重點,不要人云亦云.

只不過聰明的商人將簡單的事情複雜化的包裝手法實在令我眼界大開...(我是指某些廣告的內容...引用一些似是而非的理論..)

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睡覺寫道:
噢...dr.t...我並無惡意呀........不要誤會呀~~

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誰會直率地說出所認識的真實？有所認識的少數人，愚蠢地不隱蔽自己充實的心，向愚民們說明他們的感情和見識，他們總是被人磔死或燒死。歌德 <<浮士德>>入來做下test，不同的人對事情有不同的看法和感受﹗

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Hi 睡覺,

我差不多1年前開始用類似妳的方法教女兒, 她現在4歲半了. 很羡慕妳有教書經驗, 我只能一邊學一邊想一邊實踐, 花了很多心血.

我一開始用字咭教女(但不是用"閃"的方法), 但實在太悶了, 所以我很快就要轉用圖書來教. 我都覺得小朋友認字越多就越有興趣看書. 我女兒多數自己讀書, 讀到不想睡覺, 她不會看便問我, 所以我不需要盯實她有沒有讀錯字了.

她看書多了, 已可開始作幾句的短文了, 一星期一至兩次吧! 我不想她討厭寫字, 所以不會讓她寫太長的.  這幾天開始我們在上學時一起以口頭形式將前一天發生的事/星期日遊玩情況以書面語敍述出來, 像作文一樣, 很好玩!

我最近又開始用mind-mapping的概念教女兒聯想她認為有興趣的東西, 亦很好玩.

Hi Dr. T,

在BK認識到你令我獲益良多!

twokidsmum

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Dr.T,
Please p.m. me. Thanks.
另外,有沒好書或好方法介紹給我們,萬分感激。

Twinskidma,
可否介紹下mind napping, 何處可找相關知料,我想學多些,知多些。

多謝兩位,麻煩

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我在Dymocks買到這本書，很有用。

http://shop.buzan.org/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=179

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Share ,

There is a book named " Mindmapping for kids" , you can buy it at Cosmos, Trinity ( 三聯) , Popular etc.

The main principle of mindmapping simulates the storage principle of human brain and that is why it's so powerful ; also the colorful representation facilitates the mind to memorize. There're software that can help build such mindmaps with ease .

With consistent and longtime training, this can strengthen memory power .

SLI

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Dear Dr. T , twokidsmum and 睡覺 ,

As I personally know Dr. Glenn Doman ( and his family ) , who is the founder of flashing method for words and dots ( for maths ) , and I've met in person with so many kids that are trained with such methods, it's no need for any more research report or doubt for me to believe that the method works !!

Although the method is pretty old ( ~ 50 years ) , it still keeps training up so many talented kids worldwide , esp. in USA , Japan , Taiwan, Singapore , Malaysia , HK and even in PRC.  There are 2 pioneer experts in this field, namely Dr. Glenn Doman ( www.iahp.org ) and Dr. Makato Shichida  ( www.shichida.org.jp ) .

With thousands of proven cases (gifted kids trained up with this method, I've met quite a no. of them ), I don't think any research report is necessary. By the way, how can you rationalize and generalize such a research with such diversity , such as differences in races , cultural and educational backgrounds of parents, genetics , nuturing environment etc. ? Or is it moral or ethical to put infants for such research , one group being trained and another without training or stimulation ?

I firmly believe that the method works , it even helps Glenn Doman's 2 grandsons to graduate from university with bachelor degree at just age 17 ! They're gentle, knowledgable and love to read and play violin , aren't them the dream of parents that come true !

I've used the method to teach my own son since birth , the effect is so astounishing as compared with kids of similiar age. Now he is 2 and can speak in complete bilingual sentences , physically strong and fit , can read independently , curious about the world with lots of 'why' questions . I recalled the old saying from Wu Xi (胡適) : You get what you nuture .

I'm not buffing or boasting for my own son, I just want to share my own experience and knowing . Science can't solve all the human issues ; and scientific methods are not very helpful  for subjects that due with humans or human experiences  , such as training, education, economics , sensations, religions and politics .

SLI

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Hi SLI,

我們很久沒對話了. 我很羡慕你兒子有你這位家長. 我只是一個普通的在職媽媽, 沒有任何教育方面的知識, 所知的都是跟你們學的. 若我有你一成的教育知識, 相信我女兒會比現在叻得多呢!

我不敢質疑Dr. Glenn Doman, 甚至任何專家的理論. 奈何我家孩子真的沒興趣, 唯有用傳統辦法教他們好了! :cry:

twokidsmum

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SLI,

I came across Glenn Doman's method 6 years ago when my first daugther was born. I got so excited with the method that I immediately made the dot cards and word cards. However the method didn't really work with my first 2 children and I'm not sure what went wrong. I'm writing here hoping that you and other BK mothers can help me out on how to do it properly.

My oldest daughter was 9 nine months old when I started with her but she didn't show any interest in the cards. She even began to resent the cards. Then I changed to flash them via powerpoint in order to revive her interest. However it didn't seem to help either. When she was around 2, I started to teach her Letterland phonics. Now she is 6 1/2 yrs old and can read indepently chapter books by Roadl Dahl and C.S.Lewis.

As for my second daughter, I tried the Glenn Doman method again but this time I sent her to Kinder U. However, this method still didn't seem to be effective on her. But recently I started to teach her addition using the Doman method and it seems to be showing some results (she is now 3 1/2).

My baby boy is now 5 months old and thanx to all the enthusiasm promoted by the BK mothers, I've started to show him dot cards and he seems to be very happy when he sees them. This time I have more confidence that it will work and your sharing makes me more determined to make it work. However, if I follow the book, that means my baby will have to sit through many sessions of flash cards for maths, language and encyclopeadic knowledge. Can you share with me how you space out your sessions? Is it necessary to follow the book exactly in order to have the best result? Also, for physical fitness, did you actually make the hanging bars for the baby?

Baby #1 16-Nov-1998 Baby #2 22-Nov-2001 Baby #3 24-Jan-2005 Baby #4 10-Aug-2006 :-D

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hova,

Glenn Doman's method may not fit for all kids at all ages, many times they've to be ready to start. Many ways that may go wrong, the way you presented , the state of the kid at that time, any distractions in the environment, your tone and enthusiasm , just to name a few.

Kids response differently to different methods, at various times, I've met kids that work fine with Montessori , discovery learning , multisensory learning etc. , just as old Tang says " It doesn't matter if it's a white or black cat , only matters if it can catch mouses"

Flashing cards is very easy, doing it right may not be so . Your son seems to be ready and enjoy it. Try with your tone showing care, love and enthusiasm, that may help.

The sessions are not in a rigid sequence of order , but should cover words , dots & encyclo. knowledge ( 3 subsessions ) in a roll , and repeat after at least 30 minutes intevals to ensure long term memory storage .

This is a subliminal learning method and should start as early as possible. Most of the time , begins with pictures / images ( these are the language of right brain ) which most kids find interesting, then insert more and more words to explain the pictures , and so forth . The method develop genius such as Carl Weiss & Liu Yiu Ting, you should have more faith that it would work.

Help this can help you clarifying your doubts and issues.

SLI

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Dr. T,
Please pm. your essays to me. Thanks. My e-mail is [email protected].

SLI and twokidsmum. Thousand thanks.
I am also very interested in different kinds of education methods.
I wish i can develop my son's right brain as well. But, there is so many methods without concrete evidences. I am quite worry if i choice the wrong method, there is terrible and unremovable impact. So, i tries to read as many information as i could. I hope i can have a conclusion ASAP.

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SLI,

"Mindmapping for kids" --- is it published in English or Cantonese? I am afraid my english is not good enough to understand the book, so how could I teach my boy?

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SLI,

Thanx so much for your valuable input.

Baby #1 16-Nov-1998 Baby #2 22-Nov-2001 Baby #3 24-Jan-2005 Baby #4 10-Aug-2006 :-D

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wendylimb,

The " Mindmapping for kids" is originally written in English , try Cosmos and Trinity to see if there is a translated version by Taiwan.

SLI

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Dr. T:
      請問我的兒子被政府的兒童體能智力測驗中心(香港韋氏兒童智力量表總測驗)評估為：

智力
1.語文智能       ：特優
2.操作智能       ：中等
讀寫
3.一分鐘讀字：較弱
4.中文默字       ：較弱
5.數字快速命名：較弱
6.抄寫速度       ：較慢
7.其他測驗       ：全部都是與智齡相符

請問
1.特優係唔係資優？
2.係唔係有書寫障礙？
3.如果係我應怎樣教導他？

唔該晒！萬分感激！

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請按此轉到我在隔壁谷的題目,會稍後在那裡答你

>>Hello, Dr.T speaking...

小仙女寫道:
... 請問我的兒子被政府的兒童體能智力測驗中心(香港韋氏兒童智力量表總測驗)評估為...

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HI SLI,

Your child is so lucky to have a mother like you! May I ask for your opinion concerning my kids. I have two sons (aged 4 & 7) and I started to flash the cards to my younger son since Dec last year. For the dot dot card, it was a failure as he was not interested in it (may he was too 'old' to use the card) and now I'm using only the words cards for him. It works well. However, I have problems in teaching my elder son. As I did not pay much attention on him when he was younger (just playing all the time which I regret very much now), he is very weak in reading because he does not understand most of the words (either in Chinese or in English). However, he is a very creative and clever child, do you have any suggestion in teaching method. Do you think mindmapping can help him? I know there are some courses teaching mindmapping but I'm sure it will help. Thanks for your 'professional' opinion

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2monsters,

Age 4 is too old to start dot cards , the window of opportunity has passed. But word and picture flash cards should be OK and work well.

For yr elder son , you should start with interesting stories to create his interests for reading and word recognition. The readers chosen should be of his level so that he can understand the story even he reads on his own. Then progressing up with increasing difficulty of reading .

There're many other ways to teach words reading with games etc. , you've to try which works best for him. Mindmapping is to train logic and memory , the effect to develop brain potential or reading ability is not proven or clearly stated.

SLI

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SORRY, may i know what is dot dot cards?

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sylviaalonso,

Dot cards are cards with no. 1 to 100 of dots on them to teach babies or preschoolers math.

SLI

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