聖心幼稚園(羅便臣道)有無人會去報名呀 ???

iantsang

Totally agree so that's the top reason.  The word 聖心 was being mentioned everyday since the interview which showed us she is seriously in love with this kindergarten.

原帖由 Harebellv 於 09-12-2 00:04 發表
Hi iantsang
Thanks for your sharing.
Yes, the most important criteria is the kids love the school.

iantsang

Thanks for this cute nickname!

原帖由 eggmama 於 09-12-2 10:24 發表
Wow, you are SH Doraemon! Thanks!

iantsang

Hi gl,

Thanks for reading my posts and I hope it is useful to you and other parents too.

Have your daughter attend other interviews so far?  My suggestion is always to let them attend more interviews so that they can feel more comfortable of meeting strangers and familiar with the situation.  Children at this age can absorb a lot of new things and grow really fast.  At the same time, take her out as much as possible so there are more opportunities for her to meet and communicate with people she doesn't know.  Since there is just one month before the interview, I think this is what I can suggest and hopefully can help.

Good luck!

Ian

原帖由 gl 於 09-12-2 12:02 發表
HI iantsang,

真是好多謝你的分享!你的回應都好詳盡, 我都有看呢!我都好想個女讀聖心, 但她剛滿兩歲(1107), 講野好少, 是否機會很微, 有冇好方法train她呢? ...

iantsang

I must stress this is just my personal feelings and my own assumption.

Personally I wonder how many of the SHCK parents actually target DGS/ SPCC if they sent their children to SHCK.  Personally, both SPCC and DGJS are NOT in my consideration (at all) so I never feel interested to look for such information.  So I am sorry I won't have this information which you seems to be very interested in.

If you are really interested in DGJS or SPCC, I would suggest you to try applying for kindergartens like CCKG or Braemar Hill (寶山).  I believe majority of SHCK parents are happy with their daughters being a Sacred Heartist so most of them will be studying in SHCSPS/ SHCS.

Concerning the advantage of being Catholic, from observation there should be quite a lot of Catholic families in SHCK.  So I assume there may be some preferences towards it.

原帖由 wootaitai 於 09-12-2 16:23 發表
iantsang

enjoyed reading all your post... really informative
Do you know the "track record" of the SHCK graduates - do you how many kids can make it into top top schools like DGS/ SPCC? how many are  ...

[ 本帖最後由 iantsang 於 09-12-2 17:26 編輯 ]

iantsang

You are welcome!

原帖由 chick1stbb 於 09-12-2 17:26 發表
Hi Ian,

I read your posts and messages all the times although I never post.

I think you are really nice to those who post their questions here. You did more than just a great job. I really appreciat ...

iantsang

Hi Elsat,

Thanks!  My daughter is only in NC class (K1) now so I don't have to choose primary school yet.  At the moment I am still planning for AM primary.

Ian

原帖由 Elsat 於 09-12-2 17:32 發表
Dear Ian,
Your girl is very beautiful!
BTW, I want to know if you pick am or pm class of SH primary for your girl.
Many thanks!

iantsang

Hi AhBoMama,

Actually, they will consider for mothers who graduated from any Canossian schools so I think it is still a good reference.  For our case, we are not Catholic, my wife is not graduated from Canossian schools so no relationships at all.  But we still get admitted so there are always chances!  Good luck to you!

Ian

原帖由 AhBoMama 於 09-12-2 17:41 發表


Dear iantsang,

My daughter is 17-mths' old now and I will apply for SHCK next year...I know the compeitition is really very keen, especially for my case (no mark at tall, not catholic....).... I wa ...

iantsang

I think further to this discussion concerning a "good" kindergarten may probably get into too much of personal view of what is "good" so I rather not to get into that and it is probably not the interest of the owner of this thread.

Back to your research concerning SPCC and DGJS, and I must make it brief since this is not relevant to this topic here.  From the data I have, if you really target for SPCC, the alternative to Braemar Hill  should be SKH and the third should be Victoria, according to data being published by each kinder.  These three together should already cover over 60% of the SPCC intake.  I hope this can save your time on your research.

Best of luck to your search of good schools!

Ian

原帖由 wootaitai 於 09-12-2 17:57 發表
thanks.. I asked because you really know a lot about the school. Its always a sign of a good school when you see passionate parents.

Though SH primary is a good school its not my target because faili ...

iantsang

Interesting question and I also wonder if all the interviews can be finished within a day due to higher birth rate in 2007.

However, don't forget this is a Catholic kindergarten so it is very unlikely they will have interviews organized on a Sunday.  One possibility is to have interviews on the following Saturday if the number of applicants are really so high and they can't handle it within January 9.  But this is too soon to tell.

原帖由 GogoCheung 於 09-12-3 10:18 發表
請問, 有無人知道, 係咪得1月9日 面試, 如果12月5日交form, 有無機會在1月10日面試?

iantsang

If you submit as late as possible on Dec. 5, then either one will happen (1) your interview can be very late on Jan. 9 or (2) on a date other than Jan 9 if they find out it is impossible to finish all interviews in one day.

原帖由 GogoCheung 於 09-12-3 11:20 發表


唔該晒你!!  因為已知1月9日, 我先生唔可以一起去inv.  而inv. 實在太激, 我尼個c nine 仔唔太敢參與.  如果,我12月5日交form, 博唔博得過呢?  總之,唔係9號inv 就得.  即使唔係10號, 16號都好.  
現在, 心大心細, ...

iantsang

Hi 21oct07,

The area you live won't be a consideration for SHCK since including us, there are a lot of SHCK students not living in HK island.  So no need to worry about this!  There are a few from Shatin I think and there are more from either Kowloon West (e.g. Kln stn., Olymipics) or Kowloon East (e.g. TKO) and even like us from NT West (Tsing Yi, Tsuen Wan and Sham Cheng)

Ian

原帖由 21oct07 於 09-12-4 16:01 發表
hi ian,

請問你知唔知shk係咪唔會考慮啲住得遠嘅小朋友? 因為我哋住沙田, 之前都有一間kg 問過我哋返學嘅安排, 可能因為我哋唔係住香港區, 宜家要waiting. 你囡囡嗰班有無同學仔唔係住港島區? ...

iantsang

They have two primary schools operating on the same campus:

Private Section (SHCSPS) - usually refer to as AM section
Gov't Aided (SHCS) - usually refer to PM section

Since they have private section on primary school, so they can accept their own kindergarten students and some kindergarten students will also continue study in PM section through allocation.

They also have secondary section, SHCC, and the relationships with the primary section is 直屬, and in order to accept as much students from their own primary as possible, all the discretionary places are reserved for SHCSPS and SHCS students only.  So, up to 90% of places are saved for them.

Please refer to my previous posts for this type of school system:

http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2154056&extra=page%3D8

原帖由 charmmykitty 於 09-12-6 08:20 發表
究竟 聖心幼稚園(羅便臣道) 係咪一條龍學校，有直屬小學同中學嗎?

iantsang

I think the standard of am and pm primary are quite similar now but the main differences are:

(1) am primary studies English 1 year ahead (i.e. P1 studies P2 level English, and P2 studies P3 level English);
(2) pm primary seems to have more activities now and also for some selected students, they will teach Chinese in Putonghua;

The percentage of am and pm primary to SHCC should be almost the same, but on number should be more from pm since they have more classes in pm.

For those who live outside of area 11, the SHCK can reserve the am primary place first and then try to apply for pm primary based on points.  It's not impossible but depends on each year.  Last year, they even let the students participate the lucky draw but this can vary year from year.

原帖由 21oct07 於 09-12-7 13:46 發表
hi ian,

你知唔知聖心小學嘅am 及pm的辦學水平係咪一樣??  嗰啲唔係住中西區嘅聖心kg學生, 係咪多數會讀am section? 因為跟教育處派位, 機會好似好低

iantsang

hi 21Oct07,

You are welcome and I was also quite surprise with my daughter's performance at SHCK interview last year (actually it was early this year ).  It just seems like she is destined to study in this kindergarten and her responses to teachers are very spontaneous and natural.

I think it is partly because she likes it very much as she walked around the school waiting for interview, and also, she has been to about 5 interviews before SHCK and as she got accepted by all of those, she has already built some confidence on herself and for us too.  So we can be more relax since we have some great offers in hand already at that point.  SHCK is really a bonus and I also haven't thought we can let her study there but I think she helped herself a lot and now she is enjoying school and the assignment very much.

My tips on some quick preparation is try let her meeting with as much strangers as possible in the coming 1 month until she got very comfortable since there are really not much time to warm up during the interview.  Good luck!

For the self-discipline part, I think they would prefer it but there are too little time left to train her in this perspective.  It is a good training anyway for kids so just softly let her understand while you have time.

Ian

原帖由 21oct07 於 09-12-7 17:10 發表
hi ian,

好多謝你嘅分享呀, 我見你囡囡舊年interview 表現好叻叻喎, 我唸佢哋鍾意自我紀律好嘅小朋友, 我個囡呢方面做得唔好架, 擔心添.....

[ 本帖最後由 iantsang 於 09-12-7 17:22 編輯 ]

iantsang

Are you asking if my daughter is a Big B?

Technically yes.  At least she is allowed to apply for Pui Ching last year but among the youngest to apply, but probably not being considered as Big B by some other kindergartens.  She was born in late August.

Why ask?

Ian

原帖由 21oct07 於 09-12-8 10:19 發表
ian,

is your girl a bid BB??

iantsang

haha, you have two parts of questions and added more after I already replied you!

My daughter also had the interview in the afternoon.  I notice from last year that due to time constraints, the afternoon interviews become shorter with probably less questions.  However, the assessment of a child doesn't purely rely on how long the interview is (certainly make it more challenging for a lot of kids since they need no time for warm up), but the way they interact with the teachers and other children during the interview.  This observation doesn't really require a lot of time.  You can basically see it from the very beginning.

That's why I keep reminding parents that the children must be very comfortable meeting with strangers and short warm-up.  Providing that they don't change a lot on admission criteria.  But an independent mature kid is probably what they look for.  (Mature judging by behavior, not the month they were born)

Ian

原帖由 21oct07 於 09-12-8 10:19 發表
ian,

is your girl a bid BB??

i knew the interview in am & pm section were different last year. it seemed that the pm interview was less seriours and simple that made me feel  the opportunity of acc ...

iantsang

Good morning jean2003.

iantsang

No problem at all, I am also just curious why suddenly ask if my daughter is a big B only.

I guess I realize my daughter is born in the middle of the year and can be awkward as some parents described: if born in September to December, having disadvantages as small B but have an option to be extra-big B the following year.  At least there is an alternative, although not preferred to some parents.

So being a August BB, the way my wife and I agree to bring up our daughter is to train her on independence, and being able to take care of her own self to improve her maturity.  We took the risk of not providing training on other hard skills to her like joining playgroups for English and PTH.  Since our belief is these can be done later but we need to focus on her mental training.

The outcome is she is much more mature than kids in her age and as we don't mix her with languages other than Cantonese at all (supplement by talking to her a lot!!!  I mean a lot!), her communication skills is very well.  She never speaks in BB languages at all and after papa and mama, she is using simple sentences to talk to us once she started to talk around 15-18 months.

Certainly different parents have different way to bring up their kids and I am just sharing this with you to see if it could be good reference to you.

原帖由 21oct07 於 09-12-8 11:59 發表
只是好奇, 多數大bb嘅表現都會好啲嘛, 細bb未必可以係行控制得咁好

iantsang

haha, really making me embarrass now having you said it twice!  But thank you for the compliments again!

Actually my daughter also have emotional issues usually for two reasons: (1) lack of sleep; (2) feeling hungry (low in blood sugar).  Try to understand the source of their emotional problems since the above mentioned issues like my daughter is related to physical problems only so as parents we need to make adjustment and not to blame them for being emotional.  Make exception plan to accommodate the interview schedule so to maintain stable emotional status of them may be helpful.

Also, other factors may affect my daughter's performance like she prefers interview by young teachers with nicer facial expressions (and impressions ).  These are really out of control so need to depends on fate.

Ian

原帖由 21oct07 於 09-12-8 12:05 發表
我個女好睇彩數, 佢由細到大都唔怕陌生人, 心情好就一齊玩, 心情唔好就會扭計

我哋都in過7間kg, 有啲佢表現得好好, 但有啲面試時老師問佢嘢, 佢會唔答人, 我個囡好情緒化, 所以好難估計佢會點樣

要再讚多一次, 你 ...

iantsang

hi 21oct07,

We keep posting messages while the other one post a new one tim!

Would it become even more competitive to SHCK applicants this year after I tell you how I train my daughter to be more mature?  Just kidding.  

We didn't take any courses at all but I did have some trainings on child psychology when I was really young and while in college.  The importance for the child to be independent is to provide minimal help to them and let them try to accomplish tasks by observing the adults and practice on their own.  We seldom teach her anything specifically unless we notice she can't handle certain things by herself.  I believe children have different natural talents so as parents, we also need to pay a lot of attention to observe their strengths and weaknesses.

Not sure if the information is sufficient enough but it is really a lot of efforts and time spent as parents to monitor such progress.  Anyway wish you and your daughter all the best in the coming interview.

By the way, which kindergartens your daughter have secured already?

p.s. SHCK is one of the few kindergartens which have lots of small BBs.  So, everyone have a fair chance I think.

原帖由 21oct07 於 09-12-8 12:18 發表
ian,

可否請教你點train up 囡囡 變得成熟啲? 自己train 或出去上堂?? 我個囡表達方面都ok, 佢都無講bb話, 佢好細個已經可以表達到自己, 可能我哋都係成日同佢講嘢..haha

但佢係情緒控制方面比較差, 令我好頭痛... ...

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