點解有人讀左國際學校既英文...

wlk168win

點解有人讀左英基(小學)既英文...都只係好一般既?? (幼稚園開始讀)

係咪同父母既英文水平(低)有關??

屋企只有不太懂英語既印僱!

JennyL

你講的 "一般" ，係邊一方面？
小孩讀幾年班？
你係單指 spoken english 差，定係整體英語水平 ( 包括寫和讀 )差？
所謂的 "差"，可能有好多原因。
掉轉頭講，讀本地學校，亦唔代表中文好，
好多本地學校學生，都中文考試測驗唔合格。
個別例子，其實唔可以用黎代表學校整體情形。

[ 本文章最後由 JennyL 於 07-12-4 00:14 編輯 ]

wlk168win

原文章由 JennyL 於 07-12-4 00:10 發表
你講的 "一般" ，係邊一方面？
小孩讀幾年班？
你係單指 spoken english 差，定係整體英語水平 ( 包括寫和讀 )差？
所謂的 "差"，可能有好多原因。
掉轉頭講，讀本地學校，亦唔代表中文好，
好多本地學校學生，都中文考試測驗唔合格。
個 ...

我諗你誤會喇, 第一, 我唔係話間學校差(放心),
第二, 我係話個細路差,
浸左咁多年, 唔好話寫(串字), 就連口講都好一般,
真係有的的意外, 宜家咪讀grade 3之麻.

所以, 想你地比comment係咪:
1. 同父母水平有關 (唔可單靠學校!)
2. 只有印傭識講有限英文.

WYmom

原文章由 wlk168win 於 07-12-3 23:50 發表
點解有人讀左英基(小學)既英文...都只係好一般既?? (幼稚園開始讀)

係咪同父母既英文水平(低)有關??

屋企只有不太懂英語既印僱!

Is your child willing to participate in discussion in class?  Does s/he have a lot of foreign friends in school?  Have you helped your child read and write a lot at home?

I helped in class in my kid's school, there are 30 students per class, some just sit there dreaming and are not willing to respond to teachers.  Some are very talkative, some always raise their hands eagerly...

There are so many kids with different characters, in the same Y1 class, some can read over level 10, some still read level 3.  Standard can vary very much.  So where does your child stand?

[ 本文章最後由 WYmom 於 07-12-4 07:31 編輯 ]

wlk168win

原文章由 WYmom 於 07-12-4 07:30 發表


Is your child willing to participate in discussion in class?  Does s/he have a lot of foreign friends in school?  Have you helped your child read and write a lot at home?

I helped in class in my ki ...

明白喇.
佢係朋友個仔, 由幼稚園開始讀到宜家,
口講程度我覺得係一般無讀國際既小朋友一樣,
或者比起還會低的.

他喜歡說話.

但曾經被下令惡補英文.

宜家一些很簡單的句子還可以, 例如: I cant find it! / where is it?  / I like this I dont like that!

在家只有印姐教, 或看英文電視.

父母只識單字或詞語, 不能說句子.

就是這樣, 以你經驗, 你覺得小朋友的"成績", 是否會在班中較後?

由幼園至今, 他班中的鬼仔只有一兩個, 巴籍就多些, 其餘全部中國人, 而且, 老師曾指, 他上課愛說廣東話....

朋友宜家開始擔心, 因為知道自己係幫唔到, 第日會唔會"無前途"?

OKmom

原文章由 wlk168win 於 07-12-4 09:29 發表


明白喇.
佢係朋友個仔, 由幼稚園開始讀到宜家,
口講程度我覺得係一般無讀國際既小朋友一樣,
或者比起還會低的.

他喜歡說話.

但曾經被下令惡補英文.

宜家一些很簡單的句子還可以, 例如: I cant find it! / wher ...

Which ESF school is your friend's child studying? On HK island or Kowloon side?

wlk168win

原文章由 OKmom 於 07-12-4 10:47 發表

Which ESF school is your friend's child studying? On HK island or Kowloon side?

Kowloon J.  --- thanks!

btw, 點解咁問呢?

佢有個妹妹, 所以諗緊比唔比埋佢讀, 還是讀番主流.

[ 本文章最後由 wlk168win 於 07-12-4 11:37 編輯 ]

wlk168win

原文章由 freshman 於 07-12-4 11:44 發表
The English standard of IS students varies greatly.

The following is a war story (not yet completed) written by a current IS year 2 student.  The story hasn't been polished except for a few spelling  ...

如果呢個係grade2 既學生寫既, ok!

但係我宜家問個case既小朋友既水平同呢位仲差一大段路(上述已舉例句子!).

我諗....係講緊兩個唔同既例子, 而我想知係我位小朋友既...
thanks!

OKmom

原文章由 wlk168win 於 07-12-4 11:30 發表


Kowloon J.  --- thanks!

btw, 點解咁問呢?

佢有個妹妹, 所以諗緊比唔比埋佢讀, 還是讀番主流.

To learn a second language needs a lot of exposure, and need to speak it "daily". It is very crucial to provide the right language environment to the children, plus the right attitude of the children. I think KJS is an IS, it is the right language environment, but it seems your friend's child refuses to learn English, as you said he speaks Cantonese in the class, he could not benefit from this English speaking environment. And I believe he communicates with his friends in Cantonese after school. I cannot see how he can improve his English without practising.

YOSASHTO

I suggest the child's parents have a good open-minded talk with him and find out why he does not want to speak English.

There may be some hidden factors affecting this that we are not aware of unless the child opens up.  Perhaps he does not like the school, and is psychologically rejecting it?  Perhaps someone is bullying him and he feels he does not fit in?  

There are lots of emotional areas we need to consider in addition to the child's ability.  We should always give the child the benefit of the doubt.

原文章由 wlk168win 於 07-12-4 11:55 AM 發表


如果呢個係grade2 既學生寫既, ok!

但係我宜家問個case既小朋友既水平同呢位仲差一大段路(上述已舉例句子!).

我諗....係講緊兩個唔同既例子, 而我想知係我位小朋友既...
thanks! ...

[ 本文章最後由 YOSASHTO 於 07-12-4 13:12 編輯 ]

hart

The tone sounds familiar.  But a new account.

原文章由 freshman 於 07-12-4 12:39 發表
I am sorry to say that I really doubt your ability in judging the English standard of a kid.

Like the war story I quoted from an IS year 2 student (i.e. equivalent to P. 1 of a local student), you co ...

OKmom

原文章由 YOSASHTO 於 07-12-4 13:07 發表
I suggest the child's parents have a good open-minded talk with him and find out why he does not want to speak English.

There may be some hidden factors affecting this that we are not aware of unless ...

Agree...

wlk168win

原文章由 OKmom 於 07-12-4 12:18 發表

To learn a second language needs a lot of exposure, and need to speak it "daily". It is very crucial to provide the right language environment to the children, plus the right attitude of the children ...

唔該晒! 你答到我問題喇!

我會叫朋友睇吓有咩辦法改善吓~

wlk168win

原文章由 YOSASHTO 於 07-12-4 13:07 發表
I suggest the child's parents have a good open-minded talk with him and find out why he does not want to speak English.

There may be some hidden factors affecting this that we are not aware of unless ...

唁該你! 佢父母都唔知學校有無人蝦佢架!
只係, 反而試過比人投訴話佢蝦人! 因為佢真係幾霸道 !

好, 將你既意見話比佢知!

OKmom

原文章由 wlk168win 於 07-12-4 13:46 發表



唔該晒! 你答到我問題喇!

我會叫朋友睇吓有咩辦法改善吓~

You are welcome.

wlk168win

原文章由 freshman 於 07-12-4 12:39 發表
I am sorry to say that I really doubt your ability in judging the English standard of a kid.

Like the war story I quoted from an IS year 2 student (i.e. equivalent to P. 1 of a local student), you co ...

1. 睇黎你係一心要人"勁讚"你篇文章噃! 如果係早的出聲吖!
2. 係都係寫文章既人"叻", 你唔駛禁肉緊! 唔通佢係你個仔??
3. 我朋友既小朋友既情況, 根本同我個人"能力"或同文章(作者)無關, 明未??
4. 上黎問野姐, 你睇, 人地答得幾"中肯"!!??
5. 我既comment係ok就ok, 如果你要人跟你個答案, 不如唔好問人啦!
6. 到此為止, 都答唔到題.
7. 我唔識英文架....邊有你咁"崇拜"呢篇文吖?? 你好少見吖??
8. ...又可能我見得多, 所以咪唔會"少見多怪"咁"崇拜"囉!!
9. 真係大開眼界!
10. 問題已解決, 多謝各位!拜拜......

wlk168win

原文章由 freshman 於 07-12-4 14:20 發表
The way I used was to check whether you had made the correct judgement as I couldn't believe the English standard of a year 3 ESF student would be as poor as you described.

From how you replied, it i ...

人地既思想係唔可以改變, 所以你咩都唔信都無辦法,
呢的野, 細細個屋企都有教啦, 你無咩???

真好笑, 又唔係我個小朋友, 我既料梗係由佢父母"放"出黎架啦 !
唉, 你既理解能力真係.....呀!)) 你咁想...不如叫佢父母上黎比你
test吓, 咪知佢地有無睇錯自己個仔囉 !! 好嗎??

你亞媽係邊樹呀? 等我又test吓佢既理解能力先吖??!!

無人理你囉! 明眼人都知咩事, 你慢慢攪(事)啦!!


唉! "狗"唔識"八".