大圍培僑書院小學

melodychui

Philichak 發表於 22-10-23 10:40
衰左了，我都有拍wkf，有得in.

我沒有看影片，見其他家長回覆，有感而發。背景是什麼不是重要，反而是內容和主體是否符合學校要求。

小朋友都是人，在父母面前對住鏡頭咬字不清是正常...緊張，腦海一片空白。

加油，只要多練習，對未來不同的面試有幫助。

tcdino

soyvonne 發表於 22-10-23 00:32
有幸係管理員蔽屏前看到你的影片，你的影片除了內容單薄，咬字亦都不清。（這一代的小朋友，往往是重英輕 ...

這位家長很有心給你寶貴的意見。我也看到，發現你幾條片，其實培僑是拍得比wkf差，wkf不見得口齒有大問題，故事好流暢，孩子斯文可愛，很討好；
可能是培僑準備的時間趕才緊張失準和內容單薄；
可以試下參加朗誦，訓練咬字發音和自信

mlsbbe

soyvonne 發表於 22-10-23 00:32
有幸係管理員蔽屏前看到你的影片，你的影片除了內容單薄，咬字亦都不清。（這一代的小朋友，往往是重英輕 ...

Or it shows that the parent maybe overprotective & overbearing, trying to force the child to rote memorise something that doesn't matter in the  long run.  Do you think the child enjoys spending the next 2 days rote memorizing, and trying to get them to act in a way that would "tick all the boxes"?

That, in my opinion, just reflects the questions were designed to find certain type of students that would be great administrators & lawyers, rather than independent thinking, innovative & creative children.  


I myself, gave up after a few hours trying to get my child to rote memorise this exercise because I didn't want my child to feel  bad and affect  future interviews, and more importantly, it made me realise that this was not the right school I was looking for my child

Carly0909

Philichak 發表於 22-10-23 10:40
衰左了，我都有拍wkf，有得in.

我都有幸尋晚睇到你仔仔條片啊
我覺得你小朋友拍WKF同培僑段片效果差好遠… 培僑好似背唔到，眼神好似睇緊貓紙咁（可能唔係，但似）
而WKF果段無論係眼神同談吐咬字都好過培僑果段，同時都發揮到佢活潑果面，所以WKF有得in係正路

培僑我無報唔知咩題目，但中文題聽落好普通同朋友去公園玩，無乜加分位。同埋用左叠字個下比較出。

不過我覺得你仔仔個樣都Smart!
一定有好學校收佢

LittlemBB

Philichak 發表於 22-10-23 10:35
好具體既意見，真係要學起來，雖然今年的直資遊戲玩完，明年仲有叩門要拍片。口齒問題我都知道，我仔平常講 ...

好多都11月先出 second in, 你又知甘快玩完黎個遊戲既？

Sing13

mlsbbe 發表於 22-10-23 13:14
Or it shows that the parent maybe overprotective & overbearing, trying to force the child to rote m ...

“That, in my opinion, just reflects the bad way the questions were designed to find certain type of students that would be great administrators & lawyers, rather than independent thinking, innovative & creative children.”

培僑面試都是老師負責，估計有客觀評分標準。以我觀察，選出既學生是學術好，守紀律，父母重視小朋友學習個班。

課程設計好多是用project形式，冇標準答案，要求獨立思考，主動性，創意。中英都是用校本課程。

正是因為有前述三者既學術保證，才可以在此基礎上增潤，保證后者既質素。另外，如果父母在小一面試都已經做足准備，將來點會唔重視小朋友學習？

亦有直資學校面試時重視小朋友創意等特質。例如3 in時見校長，但都要先過前兩關。

mlsbbe

Sing13 發表於 22-10-23 15:01
“That, in my opinion, just reflects the bad way the questions were designed to find certain type o ...

As I said, the school has many excellent alumni working in the government and lawyers.  These professions require qualities that include the ability to talk and be expressive, which is what this test was about.  

I'd imagine if you lack those qualities, then certain people like engineers and scientist would be filtered out in the first round; they aren't exactly known to be expressive.


There are many intelligences that make successful people, such as emotional intelligence, verbal intelligence, spatial intelligence. The first round, is just a test of verbal intelligence; to be successful in society, you don't need to be verbally intelligent, but this round may filter out the rest of those qualities that enable a successful individual in society.


For example, Elon musk isn't known exactly to be verbally intelligent, but he makes up for it in many areas.  If a Chinese Elon Musk did the video, he may not even get through this round.  

That being said, there is a limit to testing how serious the parents are, and not something that can be tested in a 3 minute video to be done within 2 days.  Being serious is one thing, but there's also evidence that being seriously over-bearing will have an unhealthy effect on the child too.  

Sing13

mlsbbe 發表於 22-10-23 15:44
As I said, the school has many excellent alumni working in the government and lawyers.  These profe ...

兩日內完成三分鐘video, 所有學生都是一樣要求，越多時間，越容易搵到外面既協助，video更多增潤既空間，從依方面講兩日內完成亦公平。
換一個角度想，內向既小朋友反而在此輪是可以得到家長的協助。
家長亦要明白遊戲規則是幾千人中選百幾個，大概是4%概率。就算小朋友是top 10%，都要報多幾間先有offer。
無疑好多叻既小朋友成為漏網之魚。但學校亦不難搵到適合學校既學生，而這班學生亦肯定唔會是蠢。
最後各間直私學校選出適合既學生，我覺得各校既生源都差唔多，亦是緣份既遊戲。家長要做好打持久戰既準備。

manlee22

CharlotteCSY 發表於 22-10-22 16:09
同意，土生土長嘅土香港小朋友，冇可能用普通話演講一分鐘吧。我見小紅書好多內地小朋友有考培僑，佢地用 ...

我都見到果啲港漂操到個小朋友就係好誇張呀

Anne_Hall

上年小朋友拍左幾間，小朋友好怕羞，但拍片表現較好。總結經驗係笑多啲，表現自信。用多啲動作或者用埋道具。
拍攝內容豐富而帶出意義，所以家長要落苦功鋪排，小朋友要肯用短時間背。培僑今年開學前8月有2nd application, 有小朋友都係咁考入到，繼續加油！

mlsbbe

回覆 Sing13 的帖子


The school has the right to test and filter out students in any way they want, I just doubt that this is the right method, that is just my opinion.  


If they are copying WKF to take videos as a first round filter, I personally think that it isn't really a good idea, to be honest. I looked at many of the videos take by other parents, and I thought it was really hard to tell if one kid was better than the other, especially if you are the top 10%.   Yes, one may speak much more fluently, but it's easy to catch up later on.  It can also be "faked" by the parents.  I was wondering if the admission personnel was just rolling a dice, or are they being overly stringent and just looking at points that don't really assess the innate talent of the child.

WKF students take the IGCSEs and A Levels and their results are really below average, compared to the international schools.  Their admissions results to Universities in the UK / HK isn't as good as the International Schools either. I was expecting them to be better given their selection criteria. I did some calculations and I remember WKF had something like a 2% admissions rate. That's better than Stanford, MIT, Oxford, Cambridge. The international schools don't even have admissions tests, and every year, many students land at top universities overseas and in Hong Kong. Not sure what went wrong with the local through train ...

I think one of the reasons for this is that while the nature of the international tests such as IB / A Levels look easier than DSE, I think it is deceptively so. While the content required for memorization is less, a lot of questions rely on your critical thinking skills rather than rote memorization. In fact, I think it really tests the child on the innate ability to think critically, to think on your feet. Something that can't be tested with a story telling video, made by your parents, when you are in K3. Of course, what kind of qualities you want in a student depends on your school philosophy, so I guess this has an effect on the outcome.  Maybe the school values hard work more than talent, or maybe the belief on parents role in overcoming a lack of talent?

CharlotteCSY

manlee22 發表於 22-10-23 17:24
我都見到果啲港漂操到個小朋友就係好誇張呀

我睇過幾條片，英文唔係話非常勁，但都好ok，而佢地母語係普通話... 所以佢地戰鬥力都好強下

Jean1769

CharlotteCSY 發表於 22-10-23 22:01
我睇過幾條片，英文唔係話非常勁，但都好ok，而佢地母語係普通話... 所以佢地戰鬥力都好強下
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本地人愈來愈難玩，大陸愈來愈多港漂子女來港讀書、插班、搶學位，唔名校唔搶。係香港讀書，閒閒哋至少八大畢業（好多已係世界百強），大陸你可能做市狀元先去到好d的大學，所以而家大陸家長好興來港。再加上現在政府吸引「人才」的政策，我替香港仔女本地升學前景感到悲觀。

要知道本地人讀書，in general真係唔係人哋果皮。我細個果陣，人哋已經係背字典。

Carly0909

Jean1769 發表於 22-10-23 22:19
本地人愈來愈難玩，大陸愈來愈多港漂子女來港讀書、插班、搶學位，唔名校唔搶。係香港讀書，閒閒哋至少八 ...

呢個真，我地去自行Maryknoll，都有個唔知呀爸定呀爺定親戚幫個係內地住緊既女仔遞表

manlee22

CharlotteCSY 發表於 22-10-23 22:01
我睇過幾條片，英文唔係話非常勁，但都好ok，而佢地母語係普通話... 所以佢地戰鬥力都好強下
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我見到嘅係高學歷港漂，英文都好勁喎。佢哋操到個小朋友真係好叻。咁你又放心，學校會平衡生態，唔會將間學校變成大陸學校嘅，加油

deco99

Jean1769 發表於 22-10-23 22:19
本地人愈來愈難玩，大陸愈來愈多港漂子女來港讀書、插班、搶學位，唔名校唔搶。係香港讀書，閒閒哋至少八 ...

好多港漂嘅子女都係香港土生土長，人哋父母都係專業人士，小朋友叻都唔出奇。

Jean1769

deco99 發表於 22-10-24 10:15
好多港漂嘅子女都係香港土生土長，人哋父母都係專業人士，小朋友叻都唔出奇。
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不排除有些係咁，但不少係做保險（包裝為財務策劃），或者在港讀返個都會大學碩士（十零萬）拎個機會俾仔女來港讀書（as a dependent)。如有興趣知多點，可以上網找找這些內地來港升學agent，多到你唔信。

Sing13

我見好多小學前列學生，家長都是來自內地。
來自內地既家長的確比較進取，例如深圳能夠升高中的學生約百分之四十幾。相反香港正正常常都讀到中六畢業。内地高考更是内地學生唯一目标。
由於封關原因，跨境學童清零，總體內地家長人數比以前少好多。
在直資學校，大家不用爭排名，小朋友身邊多啲叻人不是坏事，我覺得是良性競爭。

f00130

純觀察 唔肯定係咪錯覺 培橋相比其他直私 是較多內地人/講國語的家庭報讀 上年2nd in 時剛巧坐附近等候的家長好幾位係講國語

siushun

melodychui 發表於 22-10-21 18:39
WKF的拍片要求不同，兩間實力上又差一條街，冇得比較

實力相差好遠？.....