2022 Ib Results

Radiomama

poonseelai 發表於 22-7-16 13:54
唔係好明為何要早一年考？

我都唔明係咩諗法，感覺是增加少少難度。

ANChan59

poonseelai 發表於 22-7-16 13:29
唔係通常申請美國才4 HL (包括 chi B HL)? 敢於挑戰自己

兒子一直冇考慮US，只係想有些彈性，到第二年才決定那一科轉SL。拖到最後因為Eng A , HL 跟 SL PG一樣。

shadeslayer

ANChan59 發表於 22-7-16 12:49
如果让学生自己选择的，是符合学生的意愿的。

反而有能力考英文A，但全部学生考英文B，其他学科考英文， ...

課程A/B 不跟孩子能力配，也可以說 cheating.

shadeslayer

poonseelai 發表於 22-7-16 13:15
香港應該係少數全部孩子自少就學兩種語文，ibo嘅設計無預這種情況啩

日本，中國內地都係小學開始學英文，無論中國內地，香港，日本嘅英文都唔可以叫做高水平（大部分人），只停留在第二語言程度。

shadeslayer

Radiomama 發表於 22-7-16 13:52
以我仔情況，其實Eng A 同Chi A 都只會選SL, 要留番HL 選理科同數學。

我哋學校近年有個新安排，有些同學 ...

HL 係好重要嘅科目，係應該水平高嘅科目，揀 Chi B HL 我覺得怪怪咁。大學唔知點睇？如果為咗高一兩分，科目揀到亂晒籠，可能得不償失。

ANChan59

shadeslayer 發表於 22-7-16 16:20
課程A/B 不跟孩子能力配，也可以說 cheating.

That’s my point.

poonseelai

shadeslayer 發表於 22-7-16 16:26
HL 係好重要嘅科目，係應該水平高嘅科目，揀 Chi B HL 我覺得怪怪咁。大學唔知點睇？如果為咗高一兩分，科 ...

所以考美國大學会考 Chi B HL 再加3科 HL, 睇落勁D。我只聽過一個個案話英國 UCL rejected an application because Chi B HL is not challenging enough, 這個個案只有3科 HL

ratafan

Radiomama 發表於 22-7-16 12:07
本帖最後由 Radiomama 於 22-7-16 12:08 編輯

不過以為考其他語文會易取高分（特別係Ab initio 程度的 ...

Chin A SL vs Chin B HL 程度上分別很大，若果本身來自native family, 如果有心想透過課程提升中文能力，chin B   HL 是浪費時間，但可以容易取得7。chin A SL 應會令學生在學習領域上有所得著，但如果只從result orientation 看，係唔會有著數。

ratafan

poonseelai 發表於 22-7-16 16:46
所以考美國大學会考 Chi B HL 再加3科 HL, 睇落勁D。我只聽過一個個案話英國 UCL rejected an application ...

ESF doesn’t allow students from native families to take chi B SL. So they might having to take up 4 HL

ratafan

ANChan59 發表於 22-7-16 12:49
如果让学生自己选择的，是符合学生的意愿的。

反而有能力考英文A，但全部学生考英文B，其他学科考英文， ...

I think taking biology in English doesn’t automatically imply you have the first language or native proficiency.  Most organisations in hk use English in their internal or external written communications while most employees are non-native… perhaps that’s not a good analogy…
What I want to bring out is that one’s English standard might be at working level proficiency, while it cannot be classified as native.

ANChan59

ratafan 發表於 22-7-16 18:40
I think taking biology in English doesn’t automatically imply you have the first language or nativ ...

IBO had the standard of how many years you studied the language and you should go for different standards. Cancelled a few years ago and created loopholes.

poonseelai

ratafan 發表於 22-7-16 18:31
ESF doesn’t allow students from native families to take chi B SL. So they might having to take up  ...

如何定義 natives families? 記憶中 esf 大部分考中文也考 chi b SL, 近年無再睇

ratafan

poonseelai 發表於 22-7-16 19:39
如何定義 natives families? 記憶中 esf 大部分考中文也考 chi b SL, 近年無再睇

I think they have a record of what language you speak at home. We needed to declare that when applying.

ratafan

ANChan59 發表於 22-7-16 19:26
IBO had the standard of how many years you studied the language and you should go for different sta ...

Perhaps they changed the rules by looking at the circumstances more holistically. References might have been made to what languages the students use at home and on playground…

ratafan

ratafan 發表於 22-7-16 19:43
Perhaps they changed the rules by looking at the circumstances more holistically. References might  ...

I think truly bilingual are those people who can think in the languages while they are conversing instead of having your brain translating from your mother tongue.

shadeslayer

poonseelai 發表於 22-7-16 16:46
所以考美國大學会考 Chi B HL 再加3科 HL, 睇落勁D。我只聽過一個個案話英國 UCL rejected an application ...

咁樣四科加埋就合理啲

shadeslayer

ratafan 發表於 22-7-16 18:31
ESF doesn’t allow students from native families to take chi B SL. So they might having to take up  ...

Chinese native family might have students studying in IS from kindergartens and their Chi may really be Chi B SL?

School should assess the student’s ability, not the family background.

shadeslayer

ratafan 發表於 22-7-16 19:41
I think they have a record of what language you speak at home. We needed to declare that when apply ...

What language you speak at home has nothing to do with IB Chi SL or HL.

文盲都可以喺屋企講得好流利

ratafan

shadeslayer 發表於 22-7-16 23:22
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 22-7-16 23:23 編輯

Chinese native family might have students studying  ...

Exactly. So after assessment by the schools after interacting with the kids and the parents (through regular parents meetings with subject teachers) throughout the years, the teachers have some sense where the children are in terms of ability and their mother tongue languages (I don’t think any of the families in most IS are illiterate ) and advise them the exam route they should go for. The school tends to encourage the kids to challenge themselves instead of trying to go for an exam route which is too easy for them. I hope this clarifies

ratafan

shadeslayer 發表於 22-7-16 23:22
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 22-7-16 23:23 編輯

Chinese native family might have students studying  ...

My kids studied in different IS before and we are from a local family. Some of their friends are from families with local origin like you and can speak and write fluent Chinese andbased on my humble judgement Chin B SL is too easy and not challenging enough. That I think would mean “cheating”. “Cheating” as a term might be a bit too aggressive, perhaps better call it “circumventing the system “