英國 passport 入英基

gfkwong

mandy_ng207 發表於 20-4-15 12:10
The random number comes before nationality and language ability. If random number is bad, even nativ ...

Agreed. I know a friend whose son not yet started to speak at the time of interview. Small son born in November but still able to get esf k1 offer. Parents Cantonese speaking. No priority. Interview includes Chatting with parents but no need to be native.

都敏俊C

貝珠 發表於 20-4-15 12:53
咁有冇考家長英文？我填form 寫native 就係native ? 咩叫native 咩叫fluent 呢？咁個個都寫native 啦
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唔使咁激動，我都係 share 我所知的，我同你都唔係入面做，唔係 admin, 冇人知有幾多條 sub rule, 你估 random number 真係 random?
我識嘅 expat 個個想插班都即收（我唔係講緊幼稚園，講緊小學中學），咁點解佢地唔使排隊？我知佢地冇買 nomination right, 佢地外國長大都一定唔係 esf 舊生

貝珠

Expat 有foreign passport 也不等如係native English speakers

係native English speakers 也不等如有foreign passport

RaindyCheuk

esf想要高priority,  買NR最穩陣， 一定有得in,  收唔收就睇小朋友表現

lastpass

其實我覺得esf admission policy 算係transparent.

樓上講緊expat想插班即收我有所保留。Expat定義是什麼？金髮籃眼可以本地，黑髮亞洲面孔可以expat。

也要講插班基本條件係要有人退學先可以收一個插班生，所以“插班即收”這個theory我唔係好buy。

樓上是否講緊一些收生不足的esf 學校？ 咁也有可能性。但始終我也覺得是因為佢哋可以benefit from an English medium education，而唔係expat先收。

所以我覺得只因為係"expat即收”這個theory唔係好work。

poonseelai

lastpass 發表於 20-4-15 16:08
其實我覺得esf admission policy 算係transparent.

樓上講緊expat想插班即收我有所保留。Expat定義是什麼 ...

有聽過会預留一些位比年中外地派來港工作expat子女，但無詳細研究過

harbeharbe

gfkwong 發表於 20-4-15 13:37
Agreed. I know a friend whose son not yet started to speak at the time of interview. Small son born ...

請問係往年嘅applicant嗎？ 今年競爭係咪比較大?thx

gfkwong

是，我識得三個孩子也入到wks k1. 全部不是說流利英語。

cnycny

今年嚟緊k1開始13年through train直升 , 多人報左

都敏俊C

lastpass 發表於 20-4-15 16:08
其實我覺得esf admission policy 算係transparent.

樓上講緊expat想插班即收我有所保留。Expat定義是什麼 ...

That’s not a theory, but just by observation from facts
No one knows the “real theory” behind the scene unless u r the staff and board of ESF.
So call transparent, do u really trust that they just follow the rules which shown on the website?

都敏俊C

Just apply if u like the school, forget about whether you have priority or not, if u can’t enter this year, u are still on their waiting list, 2 years or 3 years, one day u must get a seat. Good luck

pat1668pat

都敏俊C 發表於 20-4-16 01:32
本帖最後由 都敏俊C 於 20-4-16 01:48 編輯

我都覺得有好大可能性大多數國際學校比外藉小朋友係有優先, 我小朋友去Nord面試,果輪大概20人其中只有一個外籍金頭髮小朋友,所有小朋友入左去面試時,個個家長係咁問個admission director 問題，佢好快回答完我地local家庭，馬上去同外藉家長講解學校detail,了解佢小朋友情況，sell佢學校好適合佢，etc..

到最後完面試，其他家長走曬，我留低問另外一個admission manager問題，個admission director巳經介紹個班主任比外籍家庭認識，所以真係有分別。

不過有分別都正常，國際學校原意都係比外藉來港人士去讀

candybar123

都敏俊C 發表於 20-4-16 01:34
Just apply if u like the school, forget about whether you have priority or not, if u can’t enter th ...

I agree with lastpass that actually when expats seem to have priority, it is because "they would benefit from an english medium education". It would be hard, or even impossible, for an expat's kid to suddenly join the local system as they lack the Chinese to follow through.
Although I don't know how it works.

For example, let's say someone with no priority is in waiting list and is no.1 in the waitlist.
Suddenly someone with priority applies (e.g. a staff's child, someone who needs to be in English medium class)
Does the other person with no priority gets bumped down?

But I also agree that if a person likes the school, should just apply. There is no chance unless one applies. A chance is a chance, no matter how low/high it is.

candybar123

Also is ESF considered an international school? By EDB definition, an international school must have at least 70% of foreign passport holders. So if the school has low percentage of foreign passport holder, it might have to give priority to those with foreign passports to bring the percentage up.

yohan

FYI, excerpt from Esf admissions policy in 2018:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.esf.edu.hk/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Admissions-Policy-and-Procedures-for-Primary-and-Secondary-Schools-one-form-final-31-Aug18.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjc6rSt9-voAhXkw4sBHQd0CdMQFjAAegQIBRAC&usg=AOvVaw31H-H_GB9rascMGa3O8Rm6&cshid=1587005546177

ESF Primary and Secondary Schools:

In line with the Hong Kong Education Bureau requirements, ESF shall admit students to school in accordance with the prevailing admission policy, including the overarching requirements to admit non-local students (those having foreign passports, excluding BNO) to no less than 70% of the overall student population of all schools operated by ESF.

ESF all-through Private Independent Schools (PIS)

Our Private Independent Schools, Discovery College (DC) and Renaissance
College (RCHK), provides an all-through education for primary and secondary
students in their respective campuses.
In line with the Hong Kong Government’s requirements for all Private Independent
Schools (PIS), both DC and RCHK have no catchment area: any student residing in
Hong Kong can apply to attend. When the Colleges are at full capacity, at least
70% of the total students enrolled must have Hong Kong permanent resident
status.

aidan08

都敏俊C 發表於 20-4-14 23:11
之前有講過，native speaking parents 有分加，雖然唔及 siblings, staff 同 nomination right 嘅 priorit ...

呢個真係純屬傳聞，我係ESF家長，我仔喺Woodland 讀幼稚園，當時識得一對美國人夫婦，個仔係我仔Woodland的同學，佢有去ESF面試，最後無收到。我仔現在Year 7，讀咁多年ESF小學，插班的香港人比外國人多，而我仔讀的小學係全香港最多外國人的一間esf小學。插班以我所知真係排隊的，但有見過等咗好多年的wait list, 自己成日打去所屬catchment zone的小學問插班機會，終於間小學問佢會不會考慮去另一間非佢catchment zone 的小學，話嗰間有位，於是就跨區入咗。
我自己覺得除了英文，ESF自己有套標準，覺得唔適合佢哋學校的學生會reject. 我見過美國人被reject, 見過幾個買咗NR的被reject, 見過Alumni 子女被reject, 也見過考到ISF而又英文好的小朋友被reject。

aidan08

lastpass 發表於 20-4-15 16:08
其實我覺得esf admission policy 算係transparent.

樓上講緊expat想插班即收我有所保留。Expat定義是什麼 ...

無錯，好簡單，我仔讀ESF year 1時，一入學有香港人也有外國人，開咗學幾日，有個澳洲男孩插班，同佢媽咪傾計，佢哋係expat, 而佢哋係正常時間報名，並非突然來港，但面試後被通知在waiting list, 雖然已在另一學校就讀，但一收到通知就即從另一間學校轉過來。如果Expact 有著數，班中就唔會有local係正取生又比佢仔先入學啦。

gfkwong

aidan08 發表於 20-4-16 20:51
呢個真係純屬傳聞，我係ESF家長，我仔喺Woodland 讀幼稚園，當時識得一對美國人夫婦，個仔係我仔Woodland的 ...

我有個朋友係比NR 去in 港島區某一間esf, 被reject ,原因唔係英文，係話佢哋性格唔適合佢嗰間小學，提議過佢哋考唔考慮另一間esf.最後我朋友去咗ISF.

Osiana

aidan08 發表於 20-4-16 21:03
無錯，好簡單，我仔讀ESF year 1時，一入學有香港人也有外國人，開咗學幾日，有個澳洲男孩插班，同佢媽咪傾 ...

我都識幾個英國人澳洲人，waiting list 到8月先收到通知正式取錄。

都敏俊C

aidan08 發表於 20-4-16 21:03
無錯，好簡單，我仔讀ESF year 1時，一入學有香港人也有外國人，開咗學幾日，有個澳洲男孩插班，同佢媽咪傾 ...

How can u get a seat in year 1?
邊一年報名？幼稚園直升？定係舊生or nomination right?
乜都冇嘅話，我身邊個個識得嘅人，都係 k2 報名，等2-4 年先有得 interview.
澳洲人幾時報係叫正常時間報名？
真心求學非 challenge