ISF vs 學之園

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rat2020 發表於 20-4-9 10:59
我完全同意你嘅講法～真係感覺自己俾元學費還要比別人虐待咁(唔係話俾咗學費就大晒)但係另外更加要比好多t ...

Janet 是Local school中學才轉去ISF的，和local school 比會覺得滿意不奇。但其他家長要決定入K1的角度又不同，尤其ISF kinder主要是以中文為主，也要考慮Y1轉去其他IS的問題。

candybar123

964000 發表於 20-4-9 12:59
Janet 是Local school中學才轉去ISF的，和local school 比會覺得滿意不奇。但其他家長要決定入K1的角度又 ...

This is what I hear too. It is stricter and gives more work than other IS but less when compared to local schools. By EDB definition it is a private school and not real international school. I can't speak for everyone but many parents choose IS so that their kids can be educated by more loving teachers and have a lesser workload in lower years.
Recommending kindergarten age kids to get tutoring sounds irresponsible of the school. No wonder they didn't want to take my child who was born in August

kytso

rat2020 發表於 20-4-9 10:59
我完全同意你嘅講法～真係感覺自己俾元學費還要比別人虐待咁(唔係話俾咗學費就大晒)但係另外更加要比好多t ...

咁真係好有問題，是校長風格造成的嗎？咁不如讀本地學校好過，起碼學費平一大截。

rat2020

kytso 發表於 20-4-10 01:32
咁真係好有問題，是校長風格造成的嗎？咁不如讀本地學校好過，起碼學費平一大截。
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Tammy ( 校長）認為在她的領導下，所有設施及老師都是最好的！當家長有意見向他反映的時候，校長並不會接受別人的意見而且還會找機會針對你的小孩！所以很多家長都敢怒不敢言！（所以最好有back up先好反映意見)
如果係普通local school 我想大部份家長都會比較satisfied. 首先學費方面就一定唔會這麼高，而且我相信師資方面及處事方針係比較有經驗！相對性價比較高。

gingercatcat

rat2020 發表於 20-4-10 01:45
Tammy ( 校長）認為在她的領導下，所有設施及老師都是最好的！當家長有意見向他反映的時候，校長並不會接 ...

我的經驗好簡單，在上playgroup時，他們要小朋友爬高爬低，但家長是不能幫，而老師也只在外圍觀察，我見小朋友跌了下來，哭，老師是不會理會，只有家長急，可能他們覺得是練習一種，但對兩歲小朋友來說，在高處跌下，我會有担心。另外，Tammy 會好嚴厲執行不能駕私家車到學校，以免影響交通。我同意，可惜大細超，D明星仔，有錢佬是可以的，Tammy 還親自迎接，但普通人，就嚴詞警告，老師們也一樣，對有錢人一張臉，笑晒口，普通中產人，好像透明一樣。如果preschool 唔改革，我想不能配合的家長，還是另選他校，反正這不會是happy school.

Jane1983

回覆 gingercatcat 的帖子

做得咁核突？咁真係令人唔舒服。

cris01

rat2020 發表於 20-4-10 01:45
Tammy ( 校長）認為在她的領導下，所有設施及老師都是最好的！當家長有意見向他反映的時候，校長並不會接 ...

No wonder I heard so many negative comments about Principal Tammy from existing parents...is it true that many of them couldn’t find back up schools so force to stay and once they do, they leave the school immediately? It’s quite a lot of work to keep searching for schools once you are inside.....better double think the offer :(

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gingercatcat 發表於 20-4-10 09:09
我的經驗好簡單，在上playgroup時，他們要小朋友爬高爬低，但家長是不能幫，而老師也只在外圍觀察，我見小 ...

成日放學都發覺我小朋友喺學校整親擦損膝頭手踭，而且都幾嚴重。隻腳又（乳）晒好多達！但當打電話俾學校嘅時候，老師例牌說詞I don’t know !!>再問返我轉頭”會唔會係剛剛工人接佢時仆親呀？”但問題係我自己接佢而且一上返架車就call佢哋！（佢哋迫小朋友咩住書包上條好斜嘅樓梯但係老師係唔會睇佢哋）另外佢哋喺outdoor  activities 會搵家長義工,好多家長義工都見到啲老師唔理啲小朋友安全,係望都唔會望行開左！有個小朋友又係仆親跟住其他小朋友唔知也想去身度如果唔係有家長義工喺度都應該幾大煱！當家長日嘅時候，我問佢我小朋友在學校表現如何，係好似記唔起我小朋友係邊個咁，一日到黑day dreaming !大多數家長收到嘅都係話你小朋友唔concentrate 啦!hea 爆你

上次有見到㗎ROLLS ROYCE長泊正正門口，然之後TAMMY 烚熟E超棚牙沖出泥接！佢哋連hold住兩張debenture的家長都會玩家長！但當你quit左，acedamy admission 又call 返你！好明顯tammy 破壞左academy單生意!
本來想攞埋report card 就走但係要提早通知佢哋,跟住喺report Card出嘅時候同我講因為我小朋友出席不夠不能做assessment 所以沒有report Card!如果係咁咁點解唔早啲同我講要喺最尾report Card出嗰日先同我講?!但之前又話俾你發給我?令到我比多左兩個月學費!我覺得佢哋直情有少少行騙。

另外Isf 一直都搵唔到好嘅老師,比較好嘅老師都會中途離開!因為聽聞佢哋人工係比真國際係低！admin又混亂，又多politic!所以交左學費都唔係有好嘅師資俾你囉！Isf 留唔到人!

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rat2020 發表於 20-4-10 01:45
Tammy ( 校長）認為在她的領導下，所有設施及老師都是最好的！當家長有意見向他反映的時候，校長並不會接 ...

教育很難純以性價比論，稔住想「讀IS但又有一定程度的繁體中文和中國文化」的家長，又未必喜歡LS的制度和課程,  但其實ISF整個style和作風都不是IS，自己搞清楚才入，值不值得就見仁見智，和有沒有其他選擇。
但我見只以「中文」一項為唯一主要選校目標的，最後都是轉校的多。

rat2020

cris01 發表於 20-4-10 10:06
No wonder I heard so many negative comments about Principal Tammy from existing parents...is it tru ...

i just the lucky one can escape but most of parents hard to get another school offer because their kid eng level can’t reach other IS standard ! and kids seems doing nth in Isf . That’s y their academic is weak to compete with IS kids in interview . Parents believe academy intake 80% student but they deferred many kids or reject some in fact. At this moment  already missed the chance to apply other IS. So Tammy really put kids n parents to knee down to her n beg ! She tell parents in k2 and passed the application period then parents  hv no other way to go !

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gingercatcat 發表於 20-4-10 09:09
我的經驗好簡單，在上playgroup時，他們要小朋友爬高爬低，但家長是不能幫，而老師也只在外圍觀察，我見小 ...

「Tammy 會好嚴厲執行不能駕私家車到學校，以免影響交通。我同意，可惜大細超，D明星仔，有錢佬是可以的，Tammy 還親自迎接，但普通人，就嚴詞警告，老師們也一樣，對有錢人一張臉，笑晒口，普通中產人，好像透明一樣。」
這個不能接受太似某國風氣（不喜勿插）。

rat2020

964000 發表於 20-4-10 10:31
教育很難純以性價比論，稔住想「讀IS但又有一定程度的繁體中文和中國文化」的家長，又未必喜歡LS的制度和 ...

我諗翻起都恨錯難翻! 之前就係以為佢係一間繁體中文嘅IS,所以就入咗去但發覺事與願違!真係要審慎思考先可以做出決定!我好慶幸可以走得甩!以我自己嘅感受,local school 都唔會咁樣對小朋友同家長! 不過都有少部份家長適合嘅!

以及Isf 不停發債券,已經成為一間學店!唔理咩嘢都收咗先,之後先踢翻你出校！令到小朋友兩頭唔到岸！我真係覺得咁樣嘅教學理念真係好缺德！

cris01

gingercatcat 發表於 20-4-10 09:09
我的經驗好簡單，在上playgroup時，他們要小朋友爬高爬低，但家長是不能幫，而老師也只在外圍觀察，我見小 ...

Actually I had the same experience in their playgroup, so I know what you mean. There were a few kids that were more “active” in class and the teacher kept yelling at the kids and the parent also..deep down I felt very bad for them. I can admit the ISF teachers are not very patient...which is one of the reasons I would hold back on the school. If the teachers yell at the kids in front of the parents, I can’t imagine when the parents are not there...in the end, every parent just care to find a caring environment for their child

cris01

964000 發表於 20-4-10 10:31
教育很難純以性價比論，稔住想「讀IS但又有一定程度的繁體中文和中國文化」的家長，又未必喜歡LS的制度和 ...

But if it’s only targeting Chinese, isn’t going to local school a better option (Chinese even stronger), then switch to intl school? Since most of the ISF students switch to intl in around grade 3-5 anyway?

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cris01 發表於 20-4-10 11:15
But if it’s only targeting Chinese, isn’t going to local school a better option (Chinese even str ...

Depends If you think chinese is your ultimate priority for education

gfkwong

rat2020 發表於 20-4-10 10:21
成日放學都發覺我小朋友喺學校整親擦損膝頭手踭，而且都幾嚴重。隻腳又（乳）晒好多達！但當打電話俾學校 ...

聽到都覺得好恐怖喎。我自己都多朋友讀ISF不過佢哋讀小學又冇乜聽見有投訴。咁你係咪淨係讀咗K1， 其實小朋友k1成日病冇話唔夠attendance就唔俾report喎，不過如果未讀晒嗰個學期佢就唔俾report。我都好憎校長同老師大細超啲有錢人同埋明星。 如果咁嘅價值觀點樣教啲小朋友。明星都係人，佢哋都會有仔女，佢哋都唔會想啲仔女有特別優待。不過講真如果一間學校係買債券或靠識人就可以入到嘅，都係證明佢係想賺多啲錢。咁你而家入到cdnis 就好啦我諗應該唔會話有大細超嗰個情況。我自己冇報ISF 就係覺得佢太多中文， 好似話早期係七成中文。不過小學係好難考到入去， 要流利國語。

sxd

已經聽過很多人投訴話isf的幼稚園唔得，但小女在isf小學又認真讀得幾好，所以來緊細佬報讀幼稚園嘅第一選擇都會系isf，但小女當初系插班year1嘅，未讀過幼稚園，希望幼稚園今年換地點後會有改善。

candybar123

sxd 發表於 20-4-10 12:50
已經聽過很多人投訴話isf的幼稚園唔得，但小女在isf小學又認真讀得幾好，所以來緊細佬報讀幼稚園嘅第一選擇 ...

ISF Academy seems to be better- maybe because it is not managed by just one person but by a team and also has a longer history. Our child didn't accepted for Year 1 (my child is small baby- the type Tammy wouldn't like   ). Now I am happy I didn't apply to try again for Year 2.
However, I am also unsure about trying for Foundation Year since many IS take in children from the age of 4 and I don't want to change schools again after a year

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gfkwong 發表於 20-4-10 12:42
聽到都覺得好恐怖喎。我自己都多朋友讀ISF不過佢哋讀小學又冇乜聽見有投訴。咁你係咪淨係讀咗K1， 其實小 ...

小學PTH會一般對答和聽得明都可以，要有點中文foundation因為初小7成中文。其實ISF都喜歡及收很多維幼的學生，可能維幼這方面更flexible，因為多一點英文。

rat2020

gfkwong 發表於 20-4-10 12:42
聽到都覺得好恐怖喎。我自己都多朋友讀ISF不過佢哋讀小學又冇乜聽見有投訴。咁你係咪淨係讀咗K1， 其實小 ...

讀到k2第一個sem,咁我通知左學校話唔會再讀之後，班主任同我個小朋友講你唔會上到去FY,但其他小朋友會去囉淨係得你一個唔去！你會去其他學校㗎啦！

咁我小朋友返嚟同我講返話唔開心老師咁樣同佢講，所以之後我都返幾日又請下假咁！而且我小朋友去完cdnis school tour 之後小朋友話唔鍾意再返Isf!所以我叫佢努力去cdnis interview !好彩之後有offer!如果唔係就真係好徬徨!

特別係升左去K2之後個中文班主任成日都令到小朋友失去自信心同唔開心！開學一個星期就打黎鬧我！話小朋友點解唔可以自己一個完成所有task!要老師提點！我個下真係對呢間學校完全失望，佢哋冇諗過要去教個小朋友，係希望家長教完之後，學校只去assess 小朋友！