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本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 19-7-7 17:20 編輯

1. HKU LLB (4 years)
2. UCL LLB (3 years)
3. UCL/HKU double LLB (4 years)

除了明顯年期,錢方面,和 UCL LLB 要考 conversion, PCLL和其他機會有否特別要考慮?

謝謝。

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shadeslayer 發表於 19-7-7 17:19
1. HKU LLB (4 years)
2. UCL LLB (3 years)
3. UCL/HKU double LLB (4 years)

UCL 要吾要考LNAT 先?

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shadeslayer 發表於 19-7-7 17:19
1. HKU LLB (4 years)
2. UCL LLB (3 years)
3. UCL/HKU double LLB (4 years)
HK LLB, PCLL - open book exam (usually)UK LLB - closed book exam (usually)

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lm251099 發表於 19-7-7 21:57
UCL 要吾要考LNAT 先?

考左先報。LNAT 考得唔好,44分可以一個UK offer 都無。而且只有一次考機會,學生好大壓力。
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cow 發表於 19-7-8 09:26
HK LLB, PCLL - open book exam (usually)UK LLB - closed book exam (usually)

我以為得部分UK LLB closed book exam,如 Cambridge LSE.
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shadeslayer 發表於 19-7-7 17:19
1. HKU LLB (4 years)
2. UCL LLB (3 years)
3. UCL/HKU double LLB (4 years)
Other considerations will be (i) the comparative chance of getting good degree honours, (ii) preference of law firms for the academic background of graduates and (iii) job opportunities in the UK.
For (i), the percentage of, say, first class honours is generally higher in UK than in HK.
For (ii), there is a general tendency that local firms prefer local graduates (for better Chinese) and overseas firms for overseas graduates (for better English). Nonetheless, there is now a minimum requirement of Chinese competency even for overseas firms.
For (iii), there is little, if at all any, chance for HK graduates without UK degree.

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slamai 發表於 19-7-8 18:22
Other considerations will be (i) the comparative chance of getting good degree honours, (ii) prefere ...

Make sense.  

So is the double LLB best of both worlds?

Will the difficulty of getting a good honour degree in the HKU part of the double LLB reflect bad on the full package?

Think think.  
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shadeslayer 發表於 19-7-8 19:00
Make sense.  

So is the double LLB best of both worlds?

I think it is more or less a matching process.  The very top students targeting the top two chambers can only go for Oxbridge and their BCL/LLM as very few local graduates can secure pupillage therein (none last year).On the other hand, even top local firms like Deacons seldom consider applications from (top) Oxbridge graduates (probably due to past experience of their offers having been rejected finally).

So the student needs to assess his/her position amongst his/her cohort and pick the best match.

As a corollary, if the student isn't sure if s/he is really going for law as a career, choosing BBA(Law) may be an alternative which otherwise will add another year in the degree programme.

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slamai 發表於 19-7-8 21:06
I think it is more or less a matching process.  The very top students targeting the top two chamber ...

Thanks. My daughter doesn’t have Oxbridge to choose from.  If she were to get a oxbridge law degree program, there isn’t much of a question anyway.   Nevertheless, UCL law and HKU law are nothing to be sniffed at.

Someone at a prestigious chamber once told me, if a child can get into one of the top 5 law programs in UK, go for it.  
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I have revised item 2 of your 3 choices to align all the choices to spend the next 4 years of academic studies:
1.   HKU LLB (4 years)
2a. UCL LLB + BCL/LLM (4 years)
3.   UCL/HKU double LLB (4 years)


So the 3 choices become spending 4 years to get 1 LLB, 2 LLBs or 1 LLB + 1 BCL/LLM.


Of course, there are also differences in tuition fees and the need for conversion exam.

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shadeslayer 發表於 19-7-7 17:19
1. HKU LLB (4 years)
2. UCL LLB (3 years)
3. UCL/HKU double LLB (4 years)

本帖最後由 elbar 於 19-7-10 18:07 編輯

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slamai 發表於 19-7-10 18:02
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I have revised item 2 of your 3 choices to align all the choices to spend t ...

本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 19-7-10 20:06 編輯

Conversion and tuition fees are all understood and does not factor high in our considerations.

Also BCL/PCLL after UCL LLB is not a key factor as one more year is within acceptable variance.   We assume BCL/PCLL right after each of the 3 choices.

Thanks anyway.   I don’t think I can persuade my daughter to take anything other than the UCL/HKU double LLB.

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elbar 發表於 19-7-10 18:07
本帖最後由 elbar 於 19-7-10 18:07 編輯

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Interesting.  Why?
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shadeslayer 發表於 19-7-10 20:06
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 19-7-10 20:06 編輯

Conversion and tuition fees are all understood and  ...
Based on your above considerations and subsequent academic pursuance, double LLBs is a reasonable choice (so called best of both worlds) which was also the choice of my colleague's son a couple of years back.

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slamai 發表於 19-7-12 17:18
Based on your above considerations and subsequent academic pursuance, double LLBs is a reasonable ch ...

本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 19-7-12 17:33 編輯

Thanks.

The thing about “best of both worlds” is that it may also be “none of the either world”.

In this case it is better because the graduate will get a formal UCL LLB degree indistinguishable from a 3 year UCL LLB and a separate formal HKU LLB degree indistinguishable from a typical 4 year HKU LLB.  

Call me a cynic.