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20120808 發表於 18-4-23 16:07
我的意思是, 專業與否, 并不是以 [顧用性質] 來衡量的, 你是說 [全職才專業] , 我不認同. ...

我們的律政司都同時係大律師和土木工程師。

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ChiChiPaPa 發表於 18-4-23 14:31
其實有不少大律師都不是全職。

好出名上晒岸,就做乜都可以得閒先做。
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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shadeslayer 發表於 18-4-23 16:10
但你說的醫生開肚例子是全職,不是 slash, 你舉的例子係幫緊我,對你 「slash 也可專業」的 claim 毫無幫 ...
I didn't take a side at all, just quoting some facts. but obviously your way of discussing is taking side. sorry for my chopping english
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ChiChiPaPa 發表於 18-4-23 16:15
我們的律政司都同時係大律師和土木工程師。

本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 18-4-23 16:22 編輯

佢有否一個階段係同時半職工程師半職律師?即星期一三五律師,星期二四六工程師?

不是拿完工程師牌,再拿律師牌喎。做全職工程師,拿完工程師牌,再做全職律師,拿律師牌,只係轉工啫。

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20120808 發表於 18-4-23 16:18
I didn't take a side at all, just quoting some facts. but obviously your way of discussing is taking ...

You still don't understand.

You made a claim "Slash can be very professional", then you gave an example of a full time doctor.  Your example does not support your claim.  don't you understand?
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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shadeslayer 發表於 18-4-23 16:25
You still don't understand.

You made a claim "Slash can be very professional", then you gave an ex ...
I don't debate, I discuss, that's the difference, but you are using debating skills, don't you know? don't you understand? my dear
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shadeslayer 發表於 18-4-23 16:21
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 18-4-23 16:22 編輯

佢有否一個階段係同時半職工程師半職律師?即星期一三 ...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_careers

Multiple Careers有兩個概念:Concurrent Multiple和 Sequential Multiple。當然,Concurrent Multiple在專業發展上,要更小心計劃。

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shadeslayer 發表於 18-4-23 16:21
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 18-4-23 16:22 編輯

佢有否一個階段係同時半職工程師半職律師?即星期一三 ...

本帖最後由 ChiChiPaPa 於 18-4-23 16:29 編輯

Duplicated

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shadeslayer 發表於 18-4-23 15:54
你小心自己成為笑柄,誤解左 slash。

我唔怕俾人笑,是否笑柄,不是你說了算!

顧掂你自己先啦,專業咪一樣有炒散!
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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20120808 發表於 18-4-23 16:27
I don't debate, I discuss, that's the difference, but you are using debating skills, don't you know? ...

nothing to do with debate. it is basic logic.  you say something, then give an example to support your saying.  But you have a wrong example, that is it.
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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ANChan59 發表於 18-4-23 16:36
我唔怕俾人笑,是否笑柄,不是你說了算!

顧掂你自己先啦,專業咪一樣有炒散!

你又混淆抄散同 Slash.   抄散都可以係全職。我係律師,每日返工也是從事律師,但我有十個散客,無固定公司,咁係全職抄散,不能叫 slash。
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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發表於 18-4-23 16:53 |只看該作者
Concurrent multiple careers

Workers with concurrent multiple careers adopt a "hyphenated" professional identity. A "teacher-painter" might refer to an individual who works for nine months out of the year as an Elementary School Teacher and three (summer) months out of the year as a painter. A "doctor-potter" might refer to an individual who works as an ENT-physician during the day, but works within a ceramics studio at night. Some consider the hyphen "-homemaker" or "-caregiver" as suggestive of another type of concurrent multiple career worker. That is, a "lawyer-homemaker" works as attorney and is also in charge of domestic duties at home. Increasingly, as adults must care for younger generation children and older generation parents, the "X-caregiver" worker has emerged — where a worker completes the tasks of career-X and simultaneously cares for the needs of children and elders. Some note that many members of the working class have long been concurrent workers out of economic necessity. A quarter of the British workforce works like this.

Workers can adopt concurrent multiple careers for a host of reasons including: economic (such as poverty or striving for additional wealth), educational (such as multiple degrees in multiple fields), or personal (such as interest or lack of fulfillment in one career). Economist, Richard Florida, among others suggests that some "hyphenates" pursue multiple concurrent careers in order to fulfill creative needs. A "doctor-potter," for example, might pursue ceramics for creative fulfillment as well as profit and professional development.

Author and New York Times columnist Marci Alboher popularized the term "slash careers" to describe multiple concurrent careers in her book One Person/Multiple Careers: A New Model for Work Life Success (2007). Instead of hyphenation, Alboher uses slash to demarcate concurrent multiple careers, as in "art dealer/yoga instructor" or "baker/comedian/web designer".

Sequential multiple careers (smc)

Workers with sequential multiple careers adopt a changing professional identity over time. Thus, a worker may devote 10–20 years of his/her life to one career and then switch to a related career or an entirely new one. As life-expectancy increases, as retirement benefits decrease, and as educational opportunities expand — workers may increasingly find themselves forced to fulfill the goals of one career and then adopt another. Some view this as an opportunity to expand meaning and purpose into later life, while others see this trend as an unfortunate economic and social reality.
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shadeslayer 發表於 18-4-23 16:25
You still don't understand.

You made a claim "Slash can be very professional", then you gave an ex ...
工程師 +仲裁員算唔算?

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shadeslayer 發表於 18-4-23 16:48
你又混淆抄散同 Slash.   抄散都可以係全職。我係律師,每日返工也是從事律師,但我有十個散客,無固定公 ...
You re-read my posts, 炒散 not start from me, from Blue bird.

In concurrent multiple careers, one full time (say professional) and one part time, the part time one can be 炒散 in other field.


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In International Ng's case, which hospital is his full time job and which is part time job.


According to Dr Pet, he was part time in QMH. Full time job clash with part time job or part time job clash with part time job.  
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cow 發表於 18-4-23 16:54
工程師 +仲裁員算唔算?

還有兒歌醫生,做醫生,兼職唱兒歌。香港有兩位較知名,而一個俾人告。其實每個個案都值得研究來看Slash的路,看新一代總結經驗後,思考第二職業或專業,能否有新的突破。

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AMWLee 發表於 18-4-23 17:11
你根本連slash的定義還未搞清楚,仲係到死撐
全職不代表專業, pls bring out some useful statements, instead of taking a side pls.
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