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27129
發表於 18-1-20 08:39 |顯示全部帖子
不少人都認為曾在外國留學,對仕途發展有一定的幫助,顧不少父母節衣縮食亦要供兒女出國,希望他們如麥明詩般考入劍橋、或牛津等名校。時移勢易,以前外國留學生好像頭上有光環,但在網上討論區發現有不少外國留學生說實是搵工甚艱難,有人沒有在香港考公開試,讀的大學不算出名,回港後被質疑學歷,亦有人瘋狂發100封CV才有面試機會。

   在求職路途上,留學生比本地生可憐?盈力僱員服務首席顧問孫立民說要視乎該申請人所讀的學校排名,「名校當然會優先,因為其江湖地位。」所以若閣下是劍橋、牛津、哈佛、耶魯等重量級大學畢業,便不愁沒人請。另外,又要視乎其專業在香港是否有所需求,孫立民說:「例如我認識一個人在加拿大讀在香港缺乏人才的科目,那便會較吃香。」不過,如留學生所讀的學校名聲不夠響,學科又比較普遍,孫立民便認為要另設策略:向跨國企業埋手。「跨國企業或經已聘請了不同國籍的人,留學生了解他們的文化,加上英語亦是一種優勢。」他直指雖然要視乎本地企業的發展方向,但不能否認他們是會偏向聘請本地畢業生。

不過,香港的跨國企業數目總比本地企業少,留學生的數字又逐漸增加,久而久之競爭一樣激烈。孫立民便提出有最終方法:申請政府職位,因為政府只要求申請人有一定學歷,只要留學生的學歷被承認,他的競爭力亦會不失本地生。

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發表於 18-1-20 13:49 |顯示全部帖子

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少見多怪,本地大學生出一百幾十封求職信也是等閒事,是香港的就業市場增長跟不上「大學生」數目增長!不完全是歧視海外非名大學畢業生!

就算跨國企業都會希望畢業生兩文三語,單是英文好是不足夠,未必有絕對優勢!就算香港畢業,中文都未必在商業上應用,要謙虛好學,才有機會。
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to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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955
發表於 18-1-20 15:33 |顯示全部帖子
亦有很多公司考慮海外畢業生因為他們英語水平可能好一點.  

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93691
發表於 18-1-20 15:46 |顯示全部帖子
linrongyao 發表於 18-1-20 15:33
亦有很多公司考慮海外畢業生因為他們英語水平可能好一點.

本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 18-1-20 15:52 編輯

一 dd,我識一些同學,去到英國都是群埋一班香港或華人學生,三年過去,英文的進步是非常有限。

最實際是面試,2 or 3 to 1 ,看看他的反應,問 d 冷門,無厘頭問題,好易見底。

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發表於 18-1-20 17:14 |顯示全部帖子
ANChan59 發表於 18-1-20 15:46
本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 18-1-20 15:52 編輯

一 dd,我識一些同學,去到英國都是群埋一班香港或華人學 ...

我都見過,英國中部老牌大學畢業,以為英文有些斤兩,點知嚇死。

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發表於 18-1-20 17:44 |顯示全部帖子
shadeslayer 發表於 18-1-20 17:14
我都見過,英國中部老牌大學畢業,以為英文有些斤兩,點知嚇死。
當年,同鬼仔住 shared flat,食飯或者在 pub 睇電視新聞,大家講講睇法,不同文化有不同觀點,對我日後工作,社交好大幫助。

有時在EK見不少人假設外國讀完大學囘來就英文好,香港讀NSS就中文好,都是一廂情願的!

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 18-1-20 19:44 |顯示全部帖子
ANChan59 發表於 18-1-20 17:44
當年,同鬼仔住 shared flat,食飯或者在 pub 睇電視新聞,大家講講睇法,不同文化有不同觀點,對我日後工 ...

我的例子唔係好唔好的問題,係基本溝通也有問題!

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發表於 18-1-20 19:56 |顯示全部帖子
shadeslayer 發表於 18-1-20 19:44
我的例子唔係好唔好的問題,係基本溝通也有問題!
I don't want to be so mean for those students studied universities overseas ..... you are so honest.

Be very honest, more than half can't get a decent space in HK universities, we can't expect too much from them.
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發表於 18-1-20 20:10 |顯示全部帖子
ANChan59 發表於 18-1-20 19:56
I don't want to be so mean for those students studied universities overseas ..... you are so honest. ...

Ah, I won't generalize too much.  The way I see it, overseas University is just different.  Both local and overseas graduates can be good or bad.

Some, like you said, can't get into a decent local uni so they go to a no-name uni overseas.

Some, like my daughter and most of her classmates, will probably not prefer HKU LLB even if they get 45 full mark.  It is just a choice.

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27129
發表於 18-1-20 21:13 |顯示全部帖子
ANChan59 發表於 18-1-20 13:49
少見多怪,本地大學生出一百幾十封求職信也是等閒事,是香港的就業市場增長跟不上「大學生」數目增長!不完 ...
見到這報導心真的有些離一離,尤其身邊有親友已出國。

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27129
發表於 18-1-20 21:20 |顯示全部帖子
ANChan59 發表於 18-1-20 15:46
本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 18-1-20 15:52 編輯

一 dd,我識一些同學,去到英國都是群埋一班香港或華人學 ...
都好難怪佢地,始終會有culture gap,就算chi 埋鬼仔道,人地都未必受你玩,去pub 人地啤買round自己飲可樂又唔買番比人⋯當然冇話一定唔得,最怕有心人+d 運氣

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發表於 18-1-20 21:26 |顯示全部帖子
MrBeast 發表於 18-1-20 21:20
都好難怪佢地,始終會有culture gap,就算chi 埋鬼仔道,人地都未必受你玩,去pub 人地啤買round自己飲可樂 ...
I don't think just luck, we need to be proactive in overseas, fit in other's culture.
As students, we paid Dutch. Only bought them a round in very very special occasion.
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and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 18-1-20 21:39 |顯示全部帖子
ANChan59 發表於 18-1-20 21:26
I don't think just luck, we need to be proactive in overseas, fit in other's culture.
As students, w ...
agree. 有時都要講際遇,遇到個合嘴型的自然水到渠成。其實另一個做法就早些初中時出國,大多mix in 到,不過又會擔心中文

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發表於 18-1-21 07:37 |顯示全部帖子
ANChan59 發表於 18-1-20 13:49
..就算跨國企業都會希望畢業生兩文三語,單是英文好是不足夠,未必有絕對優勢!就算香港畢業,中文都未必在商業上應用,要謙虛好學,才有機會。
re 中,有這問題好耐,中學要考文言文,大部分人來說對將來工作不會有直接關係,我想看到大6報紙和文件,可以中文書信來往,對話ok便成,w that in mind n google is our fd, what level of chinese would one need.
不過出國另一好處是學會自立(若父母肯放手的話)

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發表於 18-1-21 09:54 |顯示全部帖子
shadeslayer 發表於 18-1-20 20:10
Ah, I won't generalize too much.  The way I see it, overseas University is just different.  Both lo ...
暫時聽番來的,有些會在中三左右選擇出國,for 選科不稱心,又或科目多了不想子女太辛苦。若入不到local u, 出國不竟是a good alternative,好過asso degree,不過若果學成歸國變成expensive 宅人就⋯

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發表於 18-1-21 10:01 |顯示全部帖子
MrBeast 發表於 18-1-21 07:37
re 中,有這問題好耐,中學要考文言文,大部分人來說對將來工作不會有直接關係,我想看到大6報紙和文件,可 ...

唔,我的中文定位不是DSE driven. ,中華文化才是核心,廣東話,古文都十分有意思。

我們家庭是在家自幼學千字文,三字經,幼學詩,然後才到唐詩宋詞,書法,國畫,雖然另類,混合式Home schooling 都是一個方法及出路。我還可以傳承多些,到兒子就要打折,但要繼續堅持!

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mother904    發表於 18-1-21 17:19
God grant me the serenity
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courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 18-1-21 10:26 |顯示全部帖子
ANChan59 發表於 18-1-21 10:01
唔,我的中文定位不是DSE driven. ,中華文化才是核心,廣東話,古文都十分有意思。

我們家庭是在家自幼 ...
其實我同意,自從李+x整句「黃台之瓜」之瓜後,真書到用時方恨少,睇戲聽歌唔明歌詞有時都幾慚愧,又要廣又要深若唔係自發都幾辛苦

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發表於 18-1-21 11:40 |顯示全部帖子
MrBeast 發表於 18-1-21 09:54
暫時聽番來的,有些會在中三左右選擇出國,for 選科不稱心,又或科目多了不想子女太辛苦。若入不到local u, ...

depends what uni you go to.

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發表於 18-1-21 12:18 |顯示全部帖子
Language skills, including communication skills, have to be built up.
I would think it is hard to expect someone to improve a lot even with total immersion if he refuse to mingle with others.
The same happens with local students living in Hong Kong.
Some local students do not have good communication skills even speaking Cantonese.
Some local graduates are unable to find a job locally.
As a parent with kids overseas, I avoid mocking these people as "losers" to be 厚道.
The article, however, would certainly make a lot of people that "hate" overseas graduates (for their own reasons) very happy.
What is more happy to see other people "pk".
Fact is, there are even more overseas graduates that are fine with job hunting.
Different employers have different budgets and different expectations.
I run a small company and we never hire overseas graduates, we do not even hire graduates from HKU or CUHK. We have small budget and we are fine with graduates from other universities.
I guess students should look for jobs that match with their backgrounds and ability. Otherwise, there will be no reply even if they send 1000 job applications.

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發表於 18-1-22 08:14 |顯示全部帖子
nintendo 發表於 18-1-21 12:18
Language skills, including communication skills, have to be built up.
I would think it is hard to ex ...
i was one of those "losers", haha, but bcos of that, i made effort to mingle.  certainly im not a hater, just trying to chk on state of things, given the changes in hk n china since the handover.
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