2017 IB results

mandy_ng207

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我讀書的年代，校長會在F5選拔兩個同學推薦入UWC.未必是最top的同學，因為入UWC當年是意味會去外國升學，很多LS家庭都沒有這個打算。

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CIS仲未出？

mondaysunday

看了DSE和IB狀元的大學選科，覺得國際學校更能讓學生了解自己興趣，做回自己。

貝珠

mondaysunday 發表於 17-7-13 09:59
看了DSE和IB狀元的大學選科，覺得國際學校更能讓學生了解自己興趣，做回自己。
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但老實說，有些基層的dse 狀元，真係afford 唔到去追理想。讀IS , 相對家境ok

nintendo

poonseelai 發表於 17-7-12 10:28
本帖最後由 poonseelai 於 17-7-12 10:55 編輯

總有一個係左近，近日facebook 名校secret話IB 咁多狀元 ...

EK 都有人咁講。

nintendo

worriemama 發表於 17-7-11 21:35
係呀。似乎香港的家長都唔係好多對UWC有認識

都唔係，有人開聲問，就有人會答。
例如 ESF 多人，當然討論會多。
部分學校人少，就少討論而已。

UWC 是一個品牌了，考 UWC 不用成績最 top ，佢地選擇學生是看 leadership。
先去 written test ，再有 challenge day (leadership activities) ，加 interview。
而剛好和美國大學收生要求敏合。

nintendo

shadeslayer 發表於 17-7-12 14:33
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-7-12 14:33 編輯

校長一般會推薦校內好學生入LPC？  唔會有私心咩？

甚麼私心？
其實很多學校的申請程序也要推薦，小兒參加過一些高中 summer program 也要推薦。
學生如果唔信學校，咁好多嘢都可以質疑。

Jane1983

話D se難，唔等於有意思，有報導過考試內容：

中學文憑試中文科一直被喻為「死亡之卷」，口試題目驚現廿四孝故事典故題，要考生討論「戲彩娛親」、「滌親溺器」哪個提倡孝道的故事更值得為人子女者學習，頓時考起學生，有考生直言：「個四字詞讀都未識讀」，認為題目太深，學生難以發揮。

「戲彩娛親」、「滌親溺器」說的是甚麼故事？題目附有解釋，指「戲彩娛親」是指「穿上斑斕的五彩衣裳，裝作小孩形態，戲耍舞蹈，娛悅雙親為樂」；「滌親溺器」則解作「每天晚上都親自為母親清洗便桶」。若非滿肚墨水可清楚解釋故事內容，恐怕亦難以作出精彩辯論搶分。

呢d題目根本就係完全唔貼地，學生識呢d，死記晒d極少用的字點讀，都係簁氣。

nintendo

Jane1983 發表於 17-7-12 15:10
美國名U煩得多，見朋友為個仔，提早好多年搞好多嘢，又搵consultant又盛，使好多錢花好多精神都唔知得唔得。

美國名大看出身，如果學校有師兄師姐入過會好好多。
高分未必有用，以 IB 來講，我識入到 ivy league (和 MIT Stanford etc) 冇一個是狀元，甚至 44 分都只一兩個，反而 SAT 更重要。因爲第一階段用 SAT 篩人，另外又看 non-academic 是否掂。
搵 consultant 係好少少，尤其如果學校 counsellor 唔識或跟得唔足。

nintendo

貝珠 發表於 17-7-13 11:00
但老實說，有些基層的dse 狀元，真係afford 唔到去追理想。讀IS , 相對家境ok
...

同意

shadeslayer

nintendo 發表於 17-7-13 11:50
甚麼私心？
其實很多學校的申請程序也要推薦，小兒參加過一些高中 summer program 也要推薦。
學生如果唔 ...

Summer camp 點同呢。 如果某校lB高材生approach 校長，要求校長全心全意寫推薦信，推薦自己學校高材生轉讀LPC，可行嗎？

shadeslayer

貝珠 發表於 17-7-13 11:00
但老實說，有些基層的dse 狀元，真係afford 唔到去追理想。讀IS , 相對家境ok
...

Why can't they afford?   it is their own career and life in the next 40 years.  question is, can they afford NOT to choose something they like for the next 40 years.

nintendo

Jane1983 發表於 17-7-13 11:54
話D se難，唔等於有意思，有報導過考試內容：

中學文憑試中文科一直被喻為「死亡之卷」，口試題目驚現廿 ...

其實我反而覺得 DSE 的考試卷設計差， marking scheme 也有問題。
IB 中文 (Chinese A) 一點也不易，文學十分多！
但考題設得較好，marking scheme 公度，更能考到學生真正實力。
不要說其他，單單 DSE 中文，作為 first language 也要考囗試已經奇怪。
其實 internal assessment 當然可以有口試，IB internal assessment 也有各種要 "講" 的 assessment，
但作為 first language ，根本冇甚麼 exam 會有口試。
人地有口試的，多數是 second language。

nintendo

shadeslayer 發表於 17-7-13 12:04
Summer camp 點同呢。 如果某校lB高材生approach 校長，要求校長全心全意寫推薦信，推薦自己學校高材生轉讀LPC，可行嗎？

why not?

shadeslayer

nintendo 發表於 17-7-13 12:14
why not?

Conflict of interest?   The principal obviously has strong interest in keeping very good students in their school.   Can the principal be simultaneously interested in recommending very good students to leave the school?

Can current employer be impartial when consulted for recommendation for employment with a competing company?

If it is about studying abroad, or recommending for further study, it is different.  There is no conflict of interest.

Jane1983

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真心覺得無意思，學呢d，考呢d……

mandy_ng207

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To step into the shoes of those students coming from economically-deprived families, if they achieve an extraordinary result, of course most of them would prefer to use this chance to improve the economic situation of the family. Because the difference in career prospects of doctors Vs other streams in HK is huge (high salary = able to buy a house and enjoy a stable life), there is no incentive for the "straight A"ers to choose subjects other than Medic.
My major concern is that the HK education system has by no means include any "career-related teaching" in their curriculum. The students did not know that they are choosing a career for life through the JUPAS choices. And they are a bit too young to decide (some are just 16 turning 17 years old). If they can know more about the career prospect of different subjects and the achievement of graduates from 0 / 10 / 20 years after graduation, they should be more capable of making an appropriate choice.
I believe the IS curriculums emphasize "all rounded learning" which will help students to realize the impact behind their selection of subjects for university and also enable them to seek information and advice from others in making an "informed choice".

mandy_ng207

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And in fact, in my days the top students from local schools can apply for scholarships to study their interested subjects in prestigious universities overseas. My friend was a straight Aer and got full scholarship for Cam (Of course she applied before the exam)
But none of our DSE straight Aers have this plan...

shadeslayer

mandy_ng207 發表於 17-7-13 13:55
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To step into the shoes of those students coming from economically-deprived  ...

I am guessing these full-markers who has the burden of improving their family's condition is what has driven some of the students to the edge of their sanity.   Imagine someone who dislike being a doctor, but yet everyday they spend 2/3 if their time in hospital or clinic for years.

Also I suspect those who apply to med school would have some previous exposure to the profession.   They should have some ideas.

manning2014

shadeslayer 發表於 17-7-13 13:12
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-7-13 13:13 編輯

Conflict of interest?   The principal obviously has ...

Conflict of interest? It may just be a 小人之心想法 (wild guess from a narrow-minded people).

According to your logic, since Mrs Lau (DGS Principal) is sitting in LPCUWC selection committee panel these years, there should be no any DGS students getting admitted to LPCUWC in recent years, right? Unfortunately, the fact is still DGS students got in every year. Going even further to your conspiracy theory, Mrs Lau personally would tend to admit more "academically poor" students into LPCUWC, so that it would make the LPCUWC standard poorer. Therefore UWCLPC would get less competitive, so less attractive to her DGS student. Right?


Be positive, don't judge people out of our own imagination.