KCIS vs ESF Kennedy

baby-cj

What do you think about these two schools?  Which one will you pick if you got offer for P1/Y1 in both schools?  Appreciate you comments, thanks!  🙏

stephanie0504

I think it depends on what you want for your child. Kcis has a good reputation of its pre primary programme but when your child reaches to primary level, there are more to consider. Esf is ib curriculum and kcis is uk curriculum. As most international schools are now on ib curriculums, it may be easier for your child to move on to different schools in future and the transition easier when your child goes to secondary. And it also seems like taking ib exam will be the trend for international school students and i would want my child to be used to learning on ib curriculum if you decide to follow thru the international school route. Another consideration will be the resources that both schools can provide to their students. Esf is a big academic organisation with a lot of resources and facilities whereas kcis is a sub division of a local school with less facilities than esf (but of course this reflects in the different school fees you pay)No matter what your decision is, congratulations on having both p1 places secured esp i know a place in esf is hard to come by as a few of my friends' children have been turned down.

hehehaha2017

ESF Kennedy 是英基小學中,最多白人的小學之一

最易有英國口音

香港不多小學有外國人

nintendo

幾年前在一個塲合，見到一批 ESF (不是 Kennedy School)，和另一間 IS 學生 ( 叫佢做 XXX School 吧，網友勿 PM 問我是哪間) 熱烈舉手發問和搶答，相對 KCIS 小朋友就冇人出聲，連少數金髪外國孩子也沒有互動，情形幾 embarassing 。當然，也可以話 KCIS discipline 好，個個坐定定，但在 Q&A 都唔出聲好似怪 d 。

baby-cj

stephanie0504 發表於 17-7-5 09:34
I think it depends on what you want for your child. Kcis has a good reputation of its pre primary pr ...

Thanks for your comments stephanie0504.  We are just on waiting list, no confirmed offer yet.  But still want to try and understand more about these schools.  

baby-cj

nintendo 發表於 17-7-5 11:14
幾年前在一個塲合，見到一批 ESF (不是 Kennedy School)，和另一間 IS 學生 ( 叫佢做 XXX School 吧，網友 ...

Yes, I also heard that the ESF kids are quite outspoken and willing to express their opinions.  However, KCIS's kids seems to be stronger in Chinese.  That's why it's hard to choose between these two schools.

964000

nintendo 發表於 17-7-5 11:14
幾年前在一個塲合，見到一批 ESF (不是 Kennedy School)，和另一間 IS 學生 ( 叫佢做 XXX School 吧，網友 ...

This is the dilemma, if you think Chinese is of the highest priority when choosing a school, you are bound to end up in a school with a lot more Chinese ( both students and teachers), and that will result in a more "local culture and values"way than the westernised style ( of course still more westernised than local school). At the end I decided there are more important things than just learning Chinese when choosing a school.

nintendo

baby-cj 發表於 17-7-6 00:40
Yes, I also heard that the ESF kids are quite outspoken and willing to express their opinions.  Howe ...

I do not think being outspoken and having good chinese have to be two mutually exclusive qualities.

Can ESF kids have good chinese? I think some ESF kids have good chinese standard. Not talking about those that transferred from local school but genuine home grown kids. The problem with ESF is that they are unable to attract parents that care about learning chinese ---- those parents would choose other schools. And in the end birds of feathers flock together. Those that care about learning chinese would choose other schools. Those that choose ESF simply give up even before trying. Some parents has it WRONG. Some people think that: if I care about chinese then my english would be poor. AND this is WRONG! The fact is, there are real life cases that students can be good at both.

Anyway, this has been discussed many times (probable started talking about this 10 years ago. Lots of arguments, some really rude and insulting if people remembered). So I guess I would rather not drag on and let parents reflect on this point.

nintendo

964000 發表於 17-7-6 05:17
本帖最後由 964000 於 17-7-6 05:18 編輯

This is the dilemma, if you think Chinese is of the highe ...

"At the end I decided there are more important things than just learning Chinese when choosing a school."




There is never a "just" when choosing a school anyway. I would also not choose a school "just" because of the western environment.
The thing is, why should ESF be classified as a school (or schools) that parents/students need to give up on chinese?

For extended reflection, why should schools that care about chinese (in this case KCIS), give up of training kids to be outspoken.


For further reflection, are there ANY INTERNATIONAL SCHOOLS at all in Hong Kong that embrace both qualities. That is, they have decent chinese standard (and good English of course) and have outspoken kids?

964000

nintendo 發表於 17-7-6 10:26
"At the end I decided there are more important things than just learning Chinese when choosing a sc ...

I think we are not talking about giving up Chinese in ESF, it's just relative to KCIS. In fact there are also discussions on ESF vs FIS, ESF vs GSIS, and people do mention choosing ESF for higher Chinese levels while the other two are like " giving up Chinese".

stephanie0504

To compromise, i know some parents hire private tutors to teach their kids Chinese at home or the kids go to some learning centres to learn chinese. To me, i think it's easier to learn Chinese outside school than finding a school that can provide an inspiring and well rounded education.

hehehaha2017

http://www.kcis.edu.hk/document/ ... 02015%20(final).pdf

見到kcis 成績, 肯定訓唔著

160 a星 igcse, 64個中文, 24個是英文second lang

真係祝你好運

thinking123

hehehaha2017 發表於 17-7-6 14:55
http://www.kcis.edu.hk/document/GCSE%20and%20IGCSE%20Summary%20Report%202015%20(final).pdf

見到kcis ...

咁係咪成績唔多好？

964000

thinking123 發表於 17-7-13 04:37
咁係咪成績唔多好？

國際學校來説，如果英文要考second language 有點奇怪亅

Littleho

964000 發表於 17-7-13 06:13
國際學校來説，如果英文要考second language 有點奇怪亅

My kids have been studying in KCIS primary for 5-6 years . School needs students to be disciplined . There are some very high achievers in the school as Chinese families tend to care more about their academics, yet under-achieving students can still survive in the school. There are not many extra-curricular activities, yet you find very strong talents in the field of music, sports and other talents as parents arrange programs outside of school . Hope it helps

Immomo

hehehaha2017 發表於 17-7-6 14:55
http://www.kcis.edu.hk/document/GCSE%20and%20IGCSE%20Summary%20Report%202015%20(final).pdf

見到kcis ...

條link 開唔到？

himching

一個係IS, 一個扮IS, 冇得比較.

不過坊間成日老吹IS 啲學生行為差劣, 你諗你啦

MewB

himching 發表於 17-7-21 11:35
一個係IS, 一個扮IS, 冇得比較.

不過坊間成日老吹IS 啲學生行為差劣, 你諗你啦  ...

pls advise me which school is "扮IS" and the basis of your advice.  Thx.

himching

MewB 發表於 17-7-21 12:48
pls advise me which school is "扮IS" and the basis of your advice.  Thx.

扮IS : KCIS
Basis: 感覺冇外國人讀, wild guess.

MewB

himching 發表於 17-7-21 14:34
扮IS : KCIS
Basis: 感覺冇外國人讀, wild guess.

Thx for telling me it is just your wild guess.  To your understanding, a genuine IS counts on the turnout rate of Caucasian ?  Does race or nationality counts ?