有沒有人後悔選國際學校

shadeslayer

964000 發表於 17-6-21 21:22
I don't really bother to try local school, actually it's me myself who cannot fit into local school ...

Our girl and us put up with the school for too long.  Don't get me wrong, it was a very good school.  Just not for my girl.  

I thought perseverance is a virtue.  

calvinlinda

torunpoland 發表於 17-6-21 15:25
本帖最後由 torunpoland 於 17-6-21 15:25 編輯

Did your friend mention why s/he had the kid switch ...

未問，下次見面可以八吓..
不過，以我所知，佢哋放假好多時都因為女兒要應付繁重的功課、考試和默書而經常爽我哋約..

Atecila

shadeslayer 發表於 17-6-21 21:18
LS 和 IS 一大分別，不論學年，也是...

LS定了一個學術行為標準，學生家庭負責達到這學術行為標準，唔得 ...

Thanks for the sharing re the teaching style of IS primary. Guess it is indeed more appealing than LS. A bit off topic but I am just  wondering - in terms of the teaching style and values, would private independent schools (like VSA, ISF) be different from pure International schools? Would such private international schools in fact be more like local schools in terms of teaching styles/ethos?

mross38

adrleu 發表於 17-6-20 11:29
A typical HK parent, I lost the momentum to elaborate as I don't think you really interest on my re ...

I think Shadelayers was quite spot on about your "questions", coming from a research professor or professor doing research... whatever.

You then tried to bombard him/her in English, and with the big words that were used wrongly, thinking she would be intimidated. I guess you have picked the wrong guy.

Now that we are taking about international school here and some members go on things like English proficiency. Based on your English, being a professor in HK, it certainly reflected the pathetic English proficiency among the local students even though they manage to graduate from university and become a "professor"!

I am not saying my England is perrrrrrfect, just can't stand your ignorant.

shadeslayer

Atecila 發表於 17-6-21 23:15
Thanks for the sharing re the teaching style of IS primary. Guess it is indeed more appealing than  ...

These schools are half way between traditional IS and traditional LS.  They attempt to bridge the gap which in theory a nice middle ground for HK people.   The down side of course is that they have yet to prove themselves their ideas are practical.  And because they are relatively new, their experience and reputation is not as high as traditional schools in the eyes of University admission officers.  The risk of 兩頭唔到岸 is understandable.

Having said this, these schools seem to be more mature in recent years and have gathered some wealthy and supportive families too.

just my 2 cents.

skmibb

Covenant2017 發表於 17-6-21 17:15
歌神張個大女要考幾次才能考上，而細女始終考不上。

真的嗎

Jane1983

據聞，佢女讀G校嫌辛苦，去英國升學，唔習慣，幾個月就回港，去咗H校。其實呢d案例，無乜特別參考價值，佢父母只要無散晒d錢，佢的人生係all set。就算讀書唔得，都唔會話生活艱難。

torunpoland

Atecila 發表於 17-6-21 23:15
Thanks for the sharing re the teaching style of IS primary. Guess it is indeed more appealing than  ...

你可以話呢類學校，各取精華（能否集大成而成一家，則屬另話），亦可以話兩頭唔到岸。視乎你點睇。我就覺得針冇兩頭利。

ratafan

ACE2126 發表於 17-6-21 20:13
冒昧一問：既然IS間間程度參差，怎樣說IS教育普遍比傳統優勝？如果比較頂尖IS和LS，IB成績整體最好是兩間傳 ...

近十至二十年來,傳統學校在小學階段已非常重視結果、分數，把學生排名，分Banding ，有些孩子因此過度看重成敗，不感挑戰自己，但求取得高分。
另外，很多學校也為了fulfil syllabus 進度，在time limitation 下只能傳授knowledge ,沒有時間給學生學習去怎樣學
在國際學校，沒有排名，比較重視個人的發展進度，要求學生主動self reflect 及啟發，於是孩子比較重視學習過程，而不單是結果及知識的傳授。
學習路途漫長，如果在年幼階段過度看重分數，他們可能會著重操練以求高分數，便有可能沒有足夠空間讓孩子自己啟發。
你看到local school IB 成績很超卓，原因是他們已做了screening ，成績達標才可上IB班，人數有限。相對在IS,尤其一些non selective 的IS，他們全人類都take IB,成績也不俗。其實各有各好，大部分local school 相對down to earth,學生來自不同階層，生活普遍較樸實，我自己覺得可以令學生更了解香港當下的情況，相對有些IS,因為學生都來自較富裕家庭，可能不太了解香港社會問題。這是個人想法。

nintendo

torunpoland 發表於 17-6-22 08:43
本帖最後由 torunpoland 於 17-6-22 08:43 編輯

你可以話呢類學校，各取精華（能否集大成而成一家，則 ...

I would say by looking at the university placements and IB results of VSA and ISF, these are both schools that have delivered what a typical parent can ask for.

shadeslayer

nintendo 發表於 17-6-22 11:52
I would say by looking at the university placements and IB results of VSA and ISF, these are both ...

Exactly, this might be viewed as a triumph of school diversity in HK.Why dont people stop criticizing DSS and IS and private schools?

They all have to face the market and run the risk of failure.How many of the Subsidised Schools and teachers have the same guts?

skmibb

Jane1983 發表於 17-6-22 08:31
據聞，佢女讀G校嫌辛苦，去英國升學，唔習慣，幾個月就回港，去咗H校。其實呢d案例，無乜特別參考價值，佢 ...

H校?係屯門?
G校係邊?清水灣嗰頭?

torunpoland

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G係山頂啩！

poonseelai

ratafan 發表於 17-6-22 10:09
本帖最後由 ratafan 於 17-6-22 10:10 編輯

近十至二十年來,傳統學校在小學階段已非常重視結果、分數， ...

老師“傳授"知識這角色在今日互聯網日益普及下是否需要改变，相信藉得學者去研究一下。有興趣google 一下 Dr Sugata - The Hole in the Wall, 放台電腦在貧困落後印度和非洲地區，一群孩子不懂英文，無大人協助下透過摸索，爭拗，合作会學懂用，亦会安排同樣文盲的區內 granny, 要孩子向她們滙報進度，granny 只須用心聽和俾讚美。結論是孩子自學能力好高，有合適環境可發揮。這不代表不再需要老師，他們会成為 facilitator, 提供指引知 feedback, 家長們就做 granny. 我相信IS 一直以來無論行什麼制度，考什麼公開試，都有類似模式，特別在小學階段，我印象中我小時候都是玩多過做功課，正如你所講，過去一段時間香港制度變了很多。

mandy_ng207

Don't know if anyone has the same thought as mine...I would like my son to migrate outside Hong Kong when he grows up. I don't see any future for kids of this generation in Hong Kong. The injustice in HK politics, high living cost, long working hours, pressure from peers...all are detrimental for a youth's development.
As a post-80s, I am lucky that I still have the chance to migrate to a higher class with my own effort. I have thought of migration for my family but due to the low salary and high tax in the foreign countries, it is better for me to stay at the meantime. But if my son has a chance, I believe he would do better migrating outside HK.
If I have the money to retire I will definitely do it today and migrate. haha~

ratafan

poonseelai 發表於 17-6-22 13:41
老師“傳授"知識這角色在今日互聯網日益普及下是否需要改变，相信藉得學者去研究一下。有興趣google 一下  ...

非常同意，我也全靠YouTube 學懂玩某個樂器。
我以前讀書也是玩，考公開試才會操練，小時候沒有補充練習。近10多20年變了好多，大家很著重分數，不明白

964000

mandy_ng207 發表於 17-6-22 13:45
Don't know if anyone has the same thought as mine...I would like my son to migrate outside Hong Kong ...

"I have thought of migration for my family but due to the low salary and high tax in the foreign countries"
But when your kid get to somewhere raw, wouldn't he be facing the same problem?

ratafan

mandy_ng207 發表於 17-6-22 13:45
Don't know if anyone has the same thought as mine...I would like my son to migrate outside Hong Kong ...

I have the money to retire but because of that, I d rather stay in a place I feel comfortable that I can survive for the rest of my life instead of starting a complete new venture at this stage of my life as I cannot afford to lose. However as for the next generation, they start from ground zero and have nothing to lose and I agree as parents we should encourage them to think out of the box and find a place they think they can develop better. Sometimes it is not necessarily bad for them to face some challenges.