RCHK - 想問由ESF 幼稚園升上去嘅家長對學校既評語

貝珠

其實我係prefer RC 多d，主要因為繁體字及地點近屋企。我不是試圖叫大家不要選RC而增加成功機會，競爭者係其他冇priority 的小朋友。

VVhuilee

貝珠 發表於 17-6-16 18:06
RC, 另外esf 學生的advantage 只有class observation，在今年的環境下，相信所有applicants 也有interview  ...

for 2012 born cohort, RC made 170 offers to 350 esf kinder children, pass rate was 84%.so they do select 'best perform"

quoted directly from FB Hong Kong school group, this is a reply from RC Admission Mgr:

Is RC more selective? I wish I could share with you the number of how many of our wait listers (i.e. passed) who actually have been rejected by the ESF schools they applied this year.For 2012 born cohort, RC only 'failed' 16% of the applicants.Some ESF schools (can not name them) have it as high as 32%. Having said that, I do understand where the impression comes from; and this is all down to one big reason - we interview 600 children!!600!!When the base is so big, those who are very ready to join us, stand out.We support the one-application system because then we do not need to GUESS who will take our offer and can interview fewer applicants.If I could get one dollar every time I was told by the parents that 'RC is our first choice!' I would be rich.We look forward to interviewing just a couple of hundreds of children 'who put their money where their mouths are' so to speak. if you are interested in both ESF and RC, then put ESF 1st and RC 2nd (or vice versa) and follow the new rule. For the record, RC NEVER guarantees to interview all ESF kindergarten children regardlessly.We do so out of the courtesy to supporting our sibling schools (the kindergartens). And I am very sad to say that we are not 'loved' back.For 2012 cohort, RC interviewed ALL 340 ESF kindergarten kids who applied and made 170 offers alone to them.

VVhuilee

How many of them accept the offer (after saying we are the first choice?)  Less than 60.  If we have known they prefer ESF schools beforehand, we do not even need to interview them and the interview spaces can go to those who really want to attend RC.  The pain and heartache caused by the current system (to all parties involved) have come to a point it has to be changed to help the families save the $, the time/effort and the school to admit the children who really wish to attend. Well, no system is perfect all round but one has to continue making the effort!!   Have a good Thursday.

CaCa800

VVhuilee 發表於 17-6-15 14:40
今年玩 "One application policy", 9月就要決定1st choice 報RC 定foundation school.

多年來, esf kinder ...

我囡囡那一班大約有5位同學收到RC offer, 其餘都是waiting。 最後只有一位同學仔去RC, 因為佢冇foundation school offer。我反而覺得RC好難考入!

lovely_xo

CaCa800 發表於 17-6-16 18:49
我囡囡那一班大約有5位同學收到RC offer, 其餘都是waiting。 最後只有一位同學仔去RC, 因為佢冇foundation ...

同意，我女那班只有三個有RC offer, 的確也只有兩三個reject， 但其他全部waiting list，也不會disclose 排位。foundation school 起碼知道自己排位，最後也很多second in 成功，passed 但排唔到的也會盡量安排其他有位foundation school 收。

貝珠

CaCa800 發表於 17-6-16 18:49
我囡囡那一班大約有5位同學收到RC offer, 其餘都是waiting。 最後只有一位同學仔去RC, 因為佢冇foundation ...

Waitlist 也是很折磨的事

HC-Mum

我估RC難考入的感覺其中一個原因是現在的討論及數據是基於 esf kinder students 而來的。基本上 foundation schools的位全部給了 esf kinders 或其他有priority的學生，所以於 esf kinder students 而言, success rate 至 admission rate 高是 「正常」。相反, RC 收其他學校學生的比例相對高，所以 esf kinder 收 offer的比例固然是較低了。於 outsiders 而言，其實 foundation schools 也是十分難入。
之前未看到上文有關RC admission mgr的回應時，我也以為RC難入的主因是 more selective, 但 Mgr 的回覆指明 350 esf kinder applicants內, 有offer的佔 170 (我估是包埋call waiting?)！即差太多 50%有 offer, 再考慮埋 RC 有的位是 160左右，所以以數字來說 RC不算難入。
作一個大膽假設，如果來年最終放 RC 第一位的人數減少近半甚至更多，成功的機會也應該不低。但當然，foundation schools 差不多淨收 esf kinders, 成功率也很不錯。所以作為第一屆 central application什麼數據也沒有的家長們，還是跟心意行，把喜歡的放第一位。

VVhuilee

HC-Mum 發表於 17-6-17 07:53
我估RC難考入的感覺其中一個原因是現在的討論及數據是基於 esf kinder students 而來的。基本上 foundation ...

呢個分析都正路。
兩間都好，真係好難選擇。

elsathomas

"作一個大膽假設，如果來年最終放 RC 第一位的人數減少近半甚至更多，成功的機會也應該不低。但當然，foundation schools 差不多淨收 esf kinders, 成功率也很不錯。所以作為第一屆 central application什麼數據也沒有的家長們，還是跟心意行，把喜歡的放第一位。"

很同意! 我也這樣想! 來年放RC於第一位的應該不多, 成功機會反而會增加! 支持把喜歡的放第一位!
尤其是對中文比較有要求的本地家長!

貝珠

而相信有很多local kinder 的學生放棄Esf foundation school, 選RC, 競爭點都唔會細

pinkmania

貝珠 發表於 17-6-18 00:44
而相信有很多local kinder 的學生放棄Esf foundation school, 選RC, 競爭點都唔會細

但foundation school 要維持70% foreign passport holders 的要求.
如果無foreign passport, 會唔會RC大機會啲?

貝珠

pinkmania 發表於 17-6-18 23:33
但foundation school 要維持70% foreign passport holders 的要求.
如果無foreign passport, 會唔會RC大 ...

早前已經有報導說某些Esf school ( e.g. Sjs) over 一半學生根本冇外國passport. 可能其他分校balance 番，也可能根本制度已名存實亡。說到國藉，另一有趣係RC 比例上都幾多外國學生，反而sjs over 九成香港人或內地人，純粹目測。

Saboc

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目測

FattyDaddy

貝珠 發表於 17-6-19 00:38
純粹目測 ...

The definition of local resident and foreign citizen is based on what documents are presented (i.e. HKID and passport), not by appearance, hence any visual impression would be inaccurate.

Cara2006

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競爭一定有，但始終只是 year 1 ，冇筆試，interview 亦只係好 casual ，我唔認為這家長要搞到好大件事咁囉。
因為每人只可以申請一間，變相每一間學校申請人數必定減少，學校不用 interview 咁多人，少了要篩走大量小朋友的壓力，我個人估計，每間學校也會手鬆少少。

以 ESF kindie 來說，小朋友有 priority 已羸一半，ESF+PIS Year 1 夠晒位收 ESF kindle 。
如果 interview 時小朋友不在狀態表現唔好，唔收正常。
至於 non-ESF kindle 申請人，其實可能人地亦非視 ESF 為首選。
唔好以為 ESF 好巴閉，你揀人，人揀你，一樣有人當 ESF 後備。
唔好以為個個申請人，有 offer 都會 accept。
其實情形未必咁差，唔好比部份 haters 搞到自亂陣腳。

Cara2006

貝珠 發表於 17-6-19 00:38
早前已經有報導說某些Esf school ( e.g. Sjs) over 一半學生根本冇外國passport. 可能其他分校balance 番 ...

名存實亡就一定，因為近五六年 expat 人數少好多。好多 MNC 已不用香港為基地，相對，又越開越多 IS，邊有咁多 non-local ? 如果要跟足，相信收生不足 !

mandy_ng207

我反而覺得下年會多本地家長選RC，一來學好中文，二來價錢和foundation schools已差不遠。
作為prospective non-ESF kindie parent, 我都覺得ESF唔一定係首選，我地無prioriry，反而無乜包袱，甚麼學校也會報。我無論考local定IS都只會以心儀作首選，亦同意RC admission officer所說，被家長欺騙是令人痛心又氣餒的事。

Saboc

欺騙真係言重！正常家長都會報幾間。唔通你最後選local school 而decline RC offer,你又係欺騙？

Saboc

大人搵工都搵幾份，好正常？！又係欺騙

Saboc

我絕對認同RC好好，尤其中文！但好多時最後esf kinder會最後㨂foundation school ,主因係地點