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nintendo

964000 發表於 17-3-23 09:17
隨了師資，相信家長的mindset, 小朋友間的ethnic/language mix 也很緊要，如果大家主要playground languag ...

Not only playground language, but also the "culture" of the school.
There are lots of local chinese at SJS and KJS, but students are all very westernised and speak good english.
The reason is the background of the families are mostly very westernised.
If a school can only attract local families that watch TVB everyday, and never want to immerse themselves in western culture, the students in the schools would not be like students with other typical IS.
Of course, I am sure some parents think that is fine, so it is up to them to decide.

nintendo

poonseelai 發表於 17-3-22 16:15
只可嘆一声無奈，父母不想選擇主流，做就了這些商機，現在一位難求，商場都要去。話時話，如這些私校提供 ...

其實一直 NJ 都非明碼實價收學生，根本唔係咁易。
D 人又唔明 conditional offer 個分低少少係正常。
有 D 人聽人地話 "某科收 34 分" ，以為好易，但人地要求 minimum predicted grades 要有 38 分， 34 分可能只是 conditional offer 要求的 final grade。
如果聽人話 "收 34 分" ，就以為自己有 predicted grade 36 分實收，就真係死。

ethanmom2012

nintendo 發表於 17-3-23 10:15
Not only playground language, but also the "culture" of the school.
There are lots of local chines ...

如果只是想英文好, 有外藉老師教而不想融入西方文化, 唔在乎playgroup language, 咁其實讀私立英文小學都可以達到目的, 唔需要讀國際學校, 學費仲可以平d tim....!

elmostoney

大陸人入IS, 著眼點未必一定係出國留學, 有D以為讀完, 順理成章考入香港的大學.  而且有部份大陸家長未必做太多research, 有的是錢. 我見過有個case, 個大陸家長係太古城租樓比個中學生住, 再搵個阿姨陪, 個細路就入讀個區某IS, 兩公婆自己返國內挖銀.  兩年後, 個細路畢唔到業, 死死氣返左國內.  內地家長有不少很aggressive, 開口埋口要入哈佛, 但亦有d 烚下烚下.

FattyDaddy

nintendo 發表於 17-3-23 10:31
有 D 人聽人地話 "某科收 34 分" ，以為好易，但人地要求 minimum predicted grades 要有 38 分， 34 分可能只是 conditional offer 要求的 final grade  ...

Not sure if this is practiced in HK universities but in my days (40 years ago) in UK, universities used to give very low conditional offers to high flying students that the universities really want to have. For example, if a student is predicted to achieve an A and a B in A Levels, the university might give a conditional offer of 2 Cs so there is very little chance that the student would not satisfy. On the contrary, for a marginal student predicted to get 2 Cs, the university might offer 2 Bs so the student is likely to miss the mark. Doesn't sound very fair but it was part of the selection process.

So one can't really judge by just looking at conditional offers, the final admission numbers are far more accurate.

nintendo

FattyDaddy 發表於 17-3-23 12:02
Not sure if this is practiced in HK universities but in my days (40 years ago) in UK, universities u ...

Like poonseelai said, it is similar in Hong Kong. Except medicine with high requirement (usually require high predicated of 43 or up, and condition 41 and up), most other program with comparably low requirement.
If students only look at the requirements of conditional offer, they will be disappointed.
For example conditional offer of medicine is 41 (or 42) (students all have predicted grades 43 up). But with only predicted grade of 41 and 42, you will not be invited to interview.

nintendo

poonseelai  So I no longer bother to explain

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(Sigh) It was already explained many times, but many EK parents still think NJ is easy. Some parents even suggested others to go through NJ so that it is easier to get into medicine.........

little-pig-pig

nintendo 發表於 17-3-23 12:26
poonseelai  So I no longer bother to explain

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What is NJ? Mind to explain please?

poonseelai

little-pig-pig 發表於 17-3-23 12:32
What is NJ? Mind to explain please?

Non jupas 非聯招，DSE以外學生申請本地資助大學學位经非聯招，DSE重考生也是NJ

nintendo

little-pig-pig 發表於 17-3-23 12:32
What is NJ? Mind to explain please?

Include everyone not taking the current year of DSE.
So repeat DSE students are also NJ. Students from UK boarding school, local AL, local IB.
And also those that apply to universities in Hong Kong from universities in other country even.
Actually, many students apply to medicals school in Hong Kong AFTER they completed a bachelor degree elsewhere.
So it is up to parents to decide whether NJ is exactly a "shortcut" like some other parents in EK said.

Having said that, I am talking about "elite programs".
If students have eyes on non-elite programs, it would not be too bad.

samsam123321

nintendo 發表於 17-3-23 13:17
Include everyone not taking the current year of DSE.
So repeat DSE students are also NJ. Students f ...

此終普通科收is 學生比較少

nintendo

samsam123321 發表於 17-3-23 14:18
此終普通科收is 學生比較少

Fact is also that IS students usually have eyes for overseas universities as well.

Jackieson

ethanmom2012 發表於 17-3-23 10:33
如果只是想英文好, 有外藉老師教而不想融入西方文化, 唔在乎playgroup language, 咁其實讀私立英文小學都 ...

相信讀私立英文小學同讀國際學校的英文水平差好遠，國際學校的英文語景好好多

Jackieson

964000 發表於 17-3-22 06:38
http://hkm.appledaily.com/detail.php?guid=19966105&category_guid=4104&category=daily&issue=20170322& ...

"當局規定，國際學校取錄本地生比例不可逾3成。" 內地人唔會計入non-local

penp0319

Jackieson 發表於 17-3-23 20:17
相信讀私立英文小學同讀國際學校的英文水平差好遠，國際學校的英文語景好好多
...

真係差咁遠？

careysum

ethanmom2012 發表於 17-3-23 10:33
如果只是想英文好, 有外藉老師教而不想融入西方文化, 唔在乎playgroup language, 咁其實讀私立英文小學都 ...

完全係兩回事，IS學生d英文係入血，基本上英文係母語，佢地學d英文係非常生活化，喺學校全英文，睇乜聽乜講乜都係英文，加上大量閱讀，一個月平均睇幾廿本至過百本書，純喺英文方面，邊夠佢地嚟吖！我細女宜家IS G2, 已經睇緊英文版Harry Potter, 而我大女就係傳統出嚟，喺英國讀緊大學，DSE嘅英文科口語成績係5**， 但都會發現，傳統學校學英文係為左考試拿高分，可能用喺生活上就唔貼地，有時見大女都係問佢細女d地道英文🤣🤣因為真係好地道，所以如果唔係咁嘅環境，係好難學得識，再加上d英文囗音，一聽就知係IS學生。正如IS嘅中文，任你點強，邊有可能可以超越到本土學校嘅中文？！人地日操夜操中文，邊夠人地d中文咁好吖！

adios

Jackieson 發表於 17-3-23 20:21
"當局規定，國際學校取錄本地生比例不可逾3成。" 內地人唔會計入non-local
...

之前睇過一個報道話，內地生計唔計non local，學校可自行決定。

Jackieson

adios 發表於 17-3-24 06:23
之前睇過一個報道話，內地生計唔計non local，學校可自行決定。

有冇link可以參考一下，thx

964000

宮二 發表於 17-3-22 14:43
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