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964000 發表於 17-2-20 10:32
ESF似乎愈多人報，愈來愈揀學生了，這是可以理解，ESF失去政府資助，以後要吸學生，點都要交下成績

"ESF失去政府資助，以後要吸學生，點都要交下成績"

Can you explain what you meant by "交成績"?

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nintendo 發表於 17-2-20 11:25
"ESF失去政府資助，以後要吸學生，點都要交下成績"

I mean they will become more selective and try to maintain certain academic levels.

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上面講成半reject 的可能是TC，TY冇一班咁差。綜合幾個WhatsApp 羣組的資信，我估TY約5%直接reject. 10-15% 要2nd interview. 我那班算0k，有一班唔知乜原因当初抽random no 時已幾乎半班reserved list!

我估今年最後至少有85，甚至90%有offer. 肯定比前幾年平均97%低。

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858 發表於 17-2-20 11:22
What kind of family background are they looking for? Parents are doctors, barristers, engineers, acc ...

From what I observed, no correlation.

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今年出事的主要2個原因：當天情緒問題或坐唔定等，同埋唔出聲或回應少。佢地英文水平要求不高，行得IS這條路有好幾年的孩子冇乜邊個會有問題。

所以，覺得孩子有這些問題千其唔好期望面試老師令他們坐定或出声，要好好准備，唔好靠人

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lckfwylyk 發表於 17-2-20 10:20
our class with 18 students, only 6 got offer in the first round, for the rest, half are rejected and ...

Do you mean Tsing Yi or Tung Chung?

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VVhuilee 發表於 17-2-20 11:06
整合我自同老師同媽咪傾計嘅個人觀感：
英文同自理能力及social skills要求高。怕羞，攪攪震嘅學生一定輸蝕。
老師多次強調重要性，感覺上家長唔好諗著讀kinder有 priority就hea著算。
佢話non-selective係唔太睇academic, 仲要係foundation schools, RC一定睇academic.

RC Year 1 admission has always been selecting outgoing students. I think the reason is that they are a through train IB school and being shy and quiet would be a disadvantage. Having said that, they still look for students that can communicate well in English.
ESF Year 1 admission has always been screening students only with their English ability. However, the primary school (and soon secondary schools too) are now IB. So they also need to have children that are suitable to be in IB.

Thus, they are now moving towards selecting students with similar criteria as RC.
A lot of people say ESF is becoming academically selective.
I do not quite agree.
ESF/RC do not select students for Year 1 by looking at their academic skills. No written tests, no math tests.
I think that is definitely not academically selective.
Some may say, hey, for upper years (especially secondary admission), they have written tests, math tests, is that selective?
Wait!
You need to make sure students that join the school can catch up with class right?
If someone can hardly write a complete sentence in English, would you think he can cope with Year 9 curriculum?
If someone can hardly add and subtract, can he cope with Year 10 curriculum?
Well, these are more extreme examples, but I think the schools are only trying to make sure they take students that can cope with school.
I think it is not the Mission of ESF or RC to become elite schools. Rather, they are trying to become schools that can provide high quality education to students.
They are only setting up admission screening to make sure students that join that school can cope.
There have been lots of discussions of IB vs non-IB in other sub-section of EK.
There are certain qualities of a person that make him succeed in IB.
Being too shy and too quiet would not be advantageous in IB, but this same person might do very well in local school.
It is a "MATCHING" rather than "selection".
Some people would bloom in IB, some might be more suitable in other curriculum.

Having said that, at the age of 4 or 5 is probably still early to say whether a child is shy or quiet.
A shy person at age of 5, might become much more outgoing at age of 10.
So if you are really keen and like IB, keep observing your child.
And if you think he/she is ready, come back and apply.
Good luck.

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964000 發表於 17-2-20 11:31
I mean they will become more selective and try to maintain certain academic levels.

So you mean, with no subsidy, they academic level is harder to maintain, and this need to be more selective?

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All these are just wild guesses

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nintendo 發表於 17-2-20 12:04
RC Year 1 admission has always been selecting outgoing students. I think the reason is that they a ...

yes, this could be why it seems more difficult to get a spot in foundation schools now. Teachers are always emphasizing the importance of social skills.

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貝珠發表於 17-2-20 10:15
What is enhancement course ?

大概K1近完結前，PYP coordinator 會個別測試每個小孩英語能力，睇下能否達到考小學要求，如：放水杯係枱上，問where is the cup? 你應該答something like ' it is on the table '. 如你只指住説什麼there ，or , over there. 就唔OK。
之後再觀察，到K2約九、十月，仍未達標的，加上一些上課太沉默的，學校會打俾家長，提供ehancement course, optional ,但一般會參加。

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nintendo 發表於 17-2-20 12:13
So you mean, with no subsidy, they academic level is harder to maintain, and this need to be more s ...

No need to be academic more selective, just be more selective to choose the suitable students, like people mentioned above, more outgoing, confident , compliant and articulate, these are collective of maturity and certain capabilities already.

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nintendo 發表於 17-2-20 12:13
So you mean, with no subsidy, they academic level is harder to maintain, and this need to be more s ...

Academic level should not be harder to maintain, but they will have more incentive to maintain it.

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At the end, I think ESF is still not too selective because I think it will still admit at least 90% of ESF kinder students, in batches as it used to be.

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As I observe, the English standard as well as the social skills of some rejected students have no problem. Even their teachers said that they perform well in class and there was no enhancement class for them before. That's why their parents seem so disappointed and little angry about the result!

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Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-20 13:52
As I observe, the English standard as well as the social skills of some rejected students have no pr ...

Exactly how many got reject? Are they applying for kjs? That's really strange, normally they will give second interview.

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We cannot explain this Year situation with its usual practice in the past.

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Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-20 13:52
As I observe, the English standard as well as the social skills of some rejected students have no pr ...

u are K2 TY parents?

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VVhuilee 發表於 17-2-20 15:50
u are K2 TY parents?

Yes

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Saboc 發表於 17-2-20 15:33
We cannot explain this Year situation with its usual practice in the past.

Maybe because they got more candidates from ESF kinder now, I think people should seriously consider applying for ESF primary on HKI, so far I didn't heard any ESF kinder kid got rejected/ waitlisted on HKI and they even have vacancies to admit non ESF Kinder kids. I think that's a more economical way than buying the NR. At the end, you can always transfer back to another ESF school according to your residential address.