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luckyveronique

小猴子兒 發表於 16-11-29 12:16
随便你怎麼想吧！我只係將我同我識既sjs 媽媽感覺寫出來而已。不想再去反駁什麼了。反正已經唔係喥了，對 ...

哈哈我有講什麼嗎？不值得這樣勞氣哈，我只是覺得不應以您公子的事情，而言語傷害一間學校的所有老師和所有同學對嗎？因為每間都有用心的好老師和優秀的學生。對我的敵意又是從何而來？很奇怪⋯⋯

luckyveronique

小猴子兒 發表於 16-11-29 12:16
随便你怎麼想吧！我只係將我同我識既sjs 媽媽感覺寫出來而已。不想再去反駁什麼了。反正已經唔係喥了，對 ...

您終於為孩子選到合適的學校也要恭喜您，祝孩子有好的前途

Sacrebleu

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正常呀，男仔必愛既活動！

Sacrebleu

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其實我都有懷疑你所講既野係咪真，因為睇佢地website 既behavioural policy. They do take bullying seriously.  當然清者自清，旁人信唔信都無關係。依我個人同esf kindie既經驗，有什麼問題，佢地既做法都係好透明。所以我至不能理解你兒子的原來經歷

Cara2006

Sacrebleu 發表於 16-11-29 18:29
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其實我都有懷疑你所講既野係咪真，因為睇佢地website 既behavioural policy. They d ...

Her child is in primary school, not the same as kindergarten.
As your experience is limited to kindergarten, may be you do not know as much.

Everyone use web name.
If you think she lied, may be other people lied too.
Actually, what do you think her motive for lying?

Why not believe her? Because she is not saying something you want to hear?
What if she praise ESF? Then you believe without doubt?

Sacrebleu

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Cara2006 and 小猴子兒子:

I wasn't accusing anybody and I hope my tone hasn't come across as harsh.  I think it will be wrong to rule out there is any truth in the story but at the end of the day, it's only one side of the story.  Don't you think?  My stand is mutual.  I don't think you should believe everything you read on the net.  

As mentioned, I did ask my friend who has children currently studying at SJS and she had never heard of this. It's a bit strange they only imposed a rule for the Year 5 students and it wasn't a temporary rule?  So I asked 小猴子兒子 again and I don't think she has a motive for lying as what she has been saying is consistent BUT honestly I will take it all with a pinch of salt.  Anyway, I think something happened and only the related parties would know about it.  My main concern for reading this thread is to get a feeling from other parents about both schools and I think  小猴子兒子 has answered all my questions in my mind so thanks for that.  I was hoping other parents from SJS would comment on this thread - maybe everything 小猴子兒子 is true!  

FYI - I have googled online for more feedback about the schools, I did some comments (many years ago, not recently ones) that there were bullying cases in ESF (together with sex, drugs problems).  I think this exists in every school.  Personally I am more interested in how the school deals with the behavioural problems so I read about the SJS's behavioural policy.  There is a good 'review' about Shatin College from one of their students (ok it's not SJS but I think you can get a sense for it):

https://www.quora.com/Which-are-the-best-primary-and-secondary-schools-in-Hong-Kong-SAR-for-a-girl-What-are-their-respective-strengths




I am pleased to read 小猴子兒子's son is enjoying RC.  It's my first choice but if I can manage to get a place at SJS, I will take it too.  

I hope it clears the air and no hard feelings for everyone.

By the way, 小猴子兒子, I agree with what you said about not having a good social awareness means you should get bullied.  

Sacrebleu

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小猴子兒子,  不用多說.  我同你並不相識.  信側有, 不信側無.  我覺得如果你的兒子是因為呢個bully 而離開, 其實會唔會好似有問題發生, 他不會學到去面對.  Unless like you said you had tried many years and the school chose not to deal with it.  I think they did impose a 'no blame' policy which I don't think is right.  In the future, if it happens again, you may ask your son to defend himself.  

I shared this story with my husband - he said he used to get bullied when he was young.  Because he's not an 'Alpha-Male', came across as an introvert.  There was this boy who picked on him (not serious but you know annoying act like pushing and verbal abuse), so his dad had told him if it happened again, first he asked the boy to stop and he didn't he would punch him.  Of course the boy didn't believe him as he had picked on him many times before and he got away from it.  So my husband did punch him and it never happened again.  The bully wouldn't report my husband because it was embarassing.  I don't know, I think as a parent, we need to help our children to solve problems.  

miaowu919

I agree with you. Further to that, I think the school plays very important role! This kind of story may happen at every school and it does happen without anyone's desire. However, the school should have a specific rule how to deal with this situation. "No punish and no blame" rule is definitely not appropriate. I think this case should be reported to Education Bureau. It sounds ridiculous that the school found out the video but refused to share with the parents and let them know what has happened. Personal view only!

Sacrebleu

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I think the school doesn't want to get involved and upset any parent, I wonder if there is a mediator as both parents and the children should be able to communicate and talk this through, especially when it happened again and again. That's why I suggested sometimes you have to deal with the issue 'personally'.

Cara2006

Sacrebleu 發表於 16-11-30 16:43
There is a good 'review' about Shatin College from one of their students (ok it's not SJS but I think you can get a sense for it):

https://www.quora.com/Which-are-the-best-primary-and-secondary-schools-in-Hong-Kong-SAR-for-a-girl-What-are-their-respective-strengths

That was exactly the problem people have here. People believe in what "A" said and consider what "B" said was a lie. Oh well. Does not matter anymore. There has never been one single topic that involve negative comments about ESF that have not been accused of being a lie. So I will just let it be. ESF is perfect.  Good bye.

luckyveronique

Cara2006 發表於 16-11-30 17:33
That was exactly the problem people have here. People believe in what "A" said and consider what " ...

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nintendo

luckyveronique 發表於 16-11-30 17:43
但是如果說老師越高年級越不用心，或者男孩子只是打機，是不是太過片面？一桿打翻一船人？有必要嗎？什麼居心？

Everyone who share information here are sharing what she knows and nothing more.
My kids are at ESF too.
The ESF students I know are mostly well behaved but I know there are many others that are not.
Can I say just because I never saw any of them, they do not exist?
什麼居心？I do not know. May be you tell me.I can only say that she was a very unhappy parent with ESF.
And I am a happy parent with ESF and that matters to me.

nintendo

Sacrebleu 發表於 16-11-29 18:29
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其實我都有懷疑你所講既野係咪真，因為睇佢地website 既behavioural policy. They d ...

Bullying probably exists in all schools. And that include ESF. Let us be more realistic.
And my own experience is that, not all bullies can be handled that smoothly.
I have seen many experienced teachers find some of the bullies really hard to handle.
She said he son was in Year 5. And that make sense. Boys at this age is no longer really afraid of teachers/principals anymore. I would not be surprised if the school really could not handle the bully.
In any case, since her son has left SJS, case is closed.

Sacrebleu

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Ok I believe you - just wanted to find out more about as I'm interested.