請教ESF BHS comments

workmama

Any comment for BHS ?

sharons

Interes to know too, any patents of BHS here can share more?

Lckwong

Bhs only got 3 classes in y1-6, around 90 students per year in total. If your residential area falls in catchment areas, it is relative harder to get in than kjs ( 4 classes, 120 students) . Ppl said kjs and Shatin is traditionally better in academic. A lot of parents move to Kln area in esf k2 and strive for kjs priority. My simple observation, bhs campus is the smallest in size.

nintendo

Can you share how you can compare the academic performance of BH, SJ and KJ? And how to come up with the conclusion that BH is not as good?

workmama

回覆 Lckwong 的帖子

Hi Lckwong,
Thanks for you reply and information. You mentioned BHS school is smallest in size ， can you also give some advise on student average performance ( in language proficiency, behaviour...), learning atmosphere, teacher teaching quality , workload of homework ...

Thank you !

oooray

原帖由 nintendo 於 16-05-15 發表
Can you share how you can compare the academic performance of BH, SJ and KJ? And how to come up with ...

only genius can draw such conclusion.

bebemuimui

原帖由 oooray 於 16-05-16 發表
only genius can draw such conclusion.

Look at the annual reports for the 3 schools...

oooray

原帖由 bebemuimui 於 16-05-16 發表
Look at the annual reports for the 3 schools...

how can u rank academic performances amongst different schools from the annual reports?

bebemuimui

原帖由 oooray 於 16-05-16 發表
how can u rank academic performances amongst different schools from the annual reports?

Isa could be a benchmark, pls note that the different avg scores may not be statically significant to draw a conclusion which one is the best or which one is the worst.

oooray

原帖由 bebemuimui 於 16-05-16 發表
Isa could be a benchmark, pls note that the different avg scores may not be statically significant t ...

i agree that ISA is useless to compare academic performance of different schools. instead, it is a good tool to track the progress of individual student throughout the years and whether he or she is positioned above or below the average in the same cohort amongst ESF schools.

nintendo

It is unfair to compare primary school students. Many children are late bloomers (especially boys) and the results has nothing to do with the school. That is also why I hate when people compare "academic results" of different primary schools. Note that a lot of very successful people performed poorly in primary school.

It is more meaningful to see how students perform at secondary. But ESF students shuffle around when entering Year 7 into different secondary. Although many people feel that SJS is the feeder secondary school for STC (and KJ for KGV), students do have to shuffle.

In any case, this has been discussed in other topics. The comparison of different results (even IB results) is not that meaningful when you understand that the school has no control as to what learning attitude the students have. For example, because there are more chinese and indian at STC and KGV, these school constantly top the results of other ESF school on the island. But it does not necessarily mean the ESF schools on the island are not as good.

Disclaimer: I am SJ and STC parent.

oooray

原帖由 nintendo 於 16-05-17 發表
本帖最後由 nintendo 於 16-5-17 10:49 編輯

It is unfair to compare primary school students. Many c ...

From your personal experience, normally from which secondary year will those successful people show their talent? Thanks for your sharing.

nintendo

oooray 發表於 16-5-17 11:04
From your personal experience, normally from which secondary year will those successful people show  ...

Students that are successful later (in IBDP and university) would start to bloom in around Year 9.
Some really mature or talented ones can perform really really well even in primary school.
Again, this is really subjective, right?
I have seen boys that play all the way to Year 12, but suddenly click and start to perform really well.
The key thing is to make a child find his goal and help him work towards his goal.

oooray

thanks a lot for your sharing!

lui

原帖由 nintendo 於 16-05-17 發表
Students that are successful later (in IBDP and university) would start to bloom in around Year 9. ...

Very true. I see my gal has great improvement in year 9, judging by the sense of responsibility she has over her own learning. Remember how hands off we IS parents are.

oooray

lui 發表於 16-5-17 12:00
Very true. I see my gal has great improvement in year 9, judging by the sense of responsibility she  ...

I have another question : if everyone improve, that means no one improve.
If someone does improve, there must be anyone fall behind.

Which type(s) of students starting fall behind since Year 9 (or even Year 7 or 8)? What are the reason(s)?


Glad to hear your precious experiences.

lui

原帖由 lui 於 16-05-17 發表
Very true. I see my gal has great improvement in year 9, judging by the sense of responsibility she  ...

一位我老爺的學弟)兩人年紀差20年。他們後來在同一所大學教書。早兩年我們一家和他共膳（第一次見面）偶然得知他的小朋友是Esf某中學。他兒子在year10期初被學校告知不可讀IB,他當時問我意見。其實我女當時入了ESf一個學期，我自己也攪不清。他說他很frustrated.學校一直沒有提兒子成績不好。我也只是告訴他什麼是Btec.他反應很大，我說男生遲click d,但他自己是優秀，真的不接受到仔現在的situation.我提出一些香港有a level 的學校請他考慮。亦因為他的例子，我和女兒也傾過如果他成績不達標可能面對的情況。請她自己要努力。

lui

原帖由 oooray 於 16-05-17 發表
I have another question : if everyone improve, that means no one improve.
If someone does improve, t ...

I think u are in the view at the school. Improvement I mention is the child herself/himself. 今天的我和昨天們我對比。亦很難知什麼人start falling.因為我也只知自己小朋友grading.

oooray

lui 發表於 16-5-17 12:22
I think u are in the view at the school. Improvement I mention is the child herself/himself. 今天的 ...

明白。正因上到中學；盡量唔手多, hand-off, 又驚比佢自己行；行行下甩左轆都唔知...

lui

原帖由 oooray 於 16-05-17 發表
明白。正因上到中學；盡量唔手多, hand-off, 又驚比佢自己行；行行下甩左轆都唔知... ...

其實你晤hands off 都唔得。佢d野除左maths.我自己都唔知乜，又冇text book 既，冇得唔放手。看ARR report keep my self update