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ANChan59

原帖由 cow 於 15-11-29 發表
jupas最唔公平就係要求中文3。non-jupas有的不用中文，中大港大non-jupad都係要求小學程度的(I)GCSE 中文.  ...

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我估英文要3是大學要求，因為絕大部分大學學科都是EMI，但回歸後，要政治正確，不能落後於英文，自然要3囉！

nintendo

It appears Hong Kong people think DSE English is equivalent to English class in the US, UK or IB.
DSE English is second language level while Chinese is at first language level.
If students feel they have a hard time with learning Chinese, they should request for a new English DSE curriculum at first language level. Then they can choose whether they want to study first language English or first language Chinese.

cow

hku only requires
- Grade B or better in English Second Language at IGCSE; or
- An overall band of 6.5 or better in IELTS; or

caa

IGCSE English first language and DSE English has a gap. DSE English is definitely second language and very very different from English as first language

cow

caa 發表於 15-11-29 16:01
IGCSE English first language and DSE English has a gap. DSE English is definitely second language an ...

Therefore I have pointed out that hku accepts IGCSE English secondary language.

nintendo

cow 發表於 15-11-29 15:13
hku only requires
- Grade B or better in English Second Language at IGCSE; or
- An overall band of 6 ...

In that case, then please keep working hard on your first language, which is Chinese.Students in other countries all have to fulfil a certain level of grades in a first language.
Do not tell me universities in Hong Kong can accept students who fail in Chinese.

cow

As I said before for non-jupas some universities require IGCSE Chinese while some do not have any requirements in Chinese Language.

nintendo

cow 發表於 15-11-29 22:52
As I said before for non-jupas some universities require IGCSE Chinese while some do not have any re ...

人地 non-jupas ，有其他 language 係 first language。
即係舉例， 香港 IB 可以有人中文 first language或 英攴 first language。
個重點，係點都要有 first language 卦？
香港人 dse 英文巳經 second language ，咁中文又話唔讀，咁即係一科 first language class 都冇？
咁搞笑？

penguin_chick

現時DSE中文獲三級或以上有約50%，即兩個有一個達標，還說困難，如果英文轉first language level ，恐怕只有20%達標，這不是胡說，因升中時適合以英語學習的學生正是20%。但到頭來EMI學生考通識還是多數轉回用中文考，即是那20%仍有水份！

cow

我係針對入大學要求，港大科大要求IGCSE English second language B. 中大要C但無講first/second language. 中大港大要IGCSE中文C。

如果DSE中英文有first and second languages. 咁DSE同IB入U的最低要求會較公平，但也要修改其他入學要求如GCE，一個first language加一個second language(不計IELTS）。

annie40

回覆 cow 的帖子

jupas最唔公平就係要求中文3。non-jupas有的不用中文，中大港大non-jupad都係要求小學程度的(I)GCSE 中文.

xxxxxx

IGCSE的1st lanuguage不算深，但內容應超於小學程度，那些在DSE中文不合格學生，拿Bgrade 或A grade 以上亦非十拿九穩。

brother4

本地神科用英語教授，但工作面對中文，對non jupas只能用IB/AL的中文成績收生，因政府規定的，一是全dse成績報大學，或全IB/AL成績報

little_yolky

yanange 發表於 15-11-27 17:55
harder to do well in IB, ALL students must take humanities, science, languages you know. IB has ton ...

harder to do well in IB <==== 十分同意。原本讀IB對學生的要求就是較高的, 讀IB而又要攞高分是十分的困難。所以, 何解大學教授喜歡收IB生是有原因的。

nintendo

cow 發表於 15-11-30 01:37
我係針對入大學要求，港大科大要求IGCSE English second language B. 中大要C但無講first/second language. ...

如果DSE中英文有first and second languages. 咁DSE同IB入U的最低要求會較公平，


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It is very fair already now.
All IB students take 2 languages. One first language one second language. (Some more competent students would take 2 languages at first language level.)
DSE also take 2 languages. One first language one second language.

nintendo

penguin_chick 發表於 15-11-30 01:08
現時DSE中文獲三級或以上有約50%，即兩個有一個達標，還說困難，如果英文轉first language level ，恐怕只 ...

A lot of local students are simply not aware that their English curriculum is second language.

hogwarts

原帖由 nintendo 於 15-11-30 發表
本帖最後由 nintendo 於 15-11-30 10:30 編輯

是的，如果不是香港華裔學生，不用同一中文收生標準，是非常合理的，甚至非華裔香港學生都應該不用考慮DSE中文，但這些以海外成績 和 lB 入大學的香港華裔學生通道，個人看法，的確為家庭有資源和不願冒 DSE 中文這個大風險的學生，提供一個 more equal 的選擇。


政府官員及大學中的教授們的子女大多唸什麼課程，心知道就好了。

cow

nintendo 發表於 15-11-30 10:34
A lot of local students are simply not aware that their English curriculum is second language.

But DSE students cannot choose English first language, Chinese second language while IB students can. Moreover, GCE students can just use IELTS plus IGCSE Chinese to fullfill the requirements.

Bluemoonty

long0 發表於 15-11-27 14:36
我接受 其實走後門都係實力的一種 有錢亦係

如果IB好D就應該所有人用IB考 廢咗DSE

IB tuition fee is very expensive not every family can afford it

little_yolky

Bluemoonty  有錢讀IB就話啫  發表於 10 分鐘前


係, 有錢一定讀IB, 小朋友思想都好D。

hogwarts

原帖由 little_yolky 於 15-11-30 發表
Bluemoonty  有錢讀IB就話啫  發表於 10 分鐘前

IB 學生思想好 D？


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