非外國護照

fatcni

有感而發，持本地護照考國際學校（小學或中學）應該冇持外國護照著數？！

FattyDaddy

fatcni 發表於 15-6-7 01:14
有感而發，持本地護照考國際學校（小學或中學）應該冇持外國護照著數？！ ...

Depends on which school, some (e.g. Renaissance College and Discovery College) give preference to children of HK permanent residents.

happyhealthymin

原帖由 fatcni 於 15-06-07 發表
有感而發，持本地護照考國際學校（小學或中學）應該冇持外國護照著數？！ ...

有同感！看看新開的國際學校更要把8成學額留給非本港護照人。現在很多香港人都持有外國護照，如果只有香港護照又想讀國際學校，一開始就失去競爭力了。

Moonlight819

我囝仔持香港護照考ESF也收了。

nintendo

FattyDaddy 發表於 15-6-7 01:38
Depends on which school, some (e.g. Renaissance College and Discovery College) give preference to ch ...

pis 話就話 70% local student ，但其實有 d 取巧。佢係計家長有冇 permanent id ，亦只是要求一個家長有就得。
其實，好多老外都有 permanent id，而 mix 家庭，甚至從外國回流的家庭，亦會有一個家長有 permanent id。
如果家長有外國 passport ，又有 permanent id ，根本學校想計佢係 local 或 non-local 都得。
同一道理，亦解釋到，點解 esf 話收 70% non-local，但 stc 甚至 kgv 都有咁多香港人家庭，因為好多都係有外國 passport 的香港人。
pis 個 70% requirement ，根本對冇外國 passport 的家庭冇着數。

FattyDaddy

nintendo 發表於 15-6-7 14:00
pis 個 70% requirement ，根本對冇外國 passport 的家庭冇着數。 ...

(1) It should make a difference if it is a foreign family without PR status vs a local family with PR status, the local family will be given preference.

(2) If it is a foreign family with PR status vs a local family with PR status, it is true the requirement does not give anyone an advantage because both families have PR status, but it does not put anyone at a disadvantage either.

(3) If it is a local family with foreign passport vs a local family without foreign passport, but both have PR status, it is essentially the same as case (2) above, no one has an advantage or disadvantage.

So PR status should give a slight edge because of case (1).

964000

nintendo 發表於 15-6-7 14:00
pis 話就話 70% local student ，但其實有 d 取巧。佢係計家長有冇 permanent id ，亦只是要求一個家長有 ...

non local:是計父母有外國護照定是小朋友？如果父母是permanent residents但其中一方有外國護照，但小朋友香港出世沒有外國護照，可計作non local 嗎？

Activehealth

If you read the Education Bureau website on "International Education in Hong Kong - A prospectus", it clearly states that "international schools are for providing demand (on education) from non-Chinese speaking students and foreign nationals most of whom would eventually return to their home countries for education".

It means that the student's nationality (passport) is counted, not the parents'.

The closest comparsion would be the case of children born in HK thus the HK residency, although neither parents are HK residents, they are still entitled to eduation in HK.

FattyDaddy

Activehealth 發表於 15-6-7 22:12
non-Chinese speaking students and foreign nationals most of whom would eventually return to their home countries for education...

That is indeed the original principle and intention, but because of Hongkong's unique history, we end up with a wide spectrum of international schools as well as international families, thats why there is no longer a general rule of thumb :)

amd2

the new international school have promised the government that reserve at lease 80% of the places for non-local student, i think that means for the kids with oversea passport:
"五個成功申請的團體均已承諾將八成或以上的學額分配予非本地學生。"

so the local kid only have lower than 20% opportunities.

amd2

2012/13至2014/15學年
就讀國際學校的本地學生人數及本地學生佔整體學生人數之百分比

年份         整體學生人數    本地學生人數(%)      非本地學生人數(%)
2012/13     34 374             4 998 (14.5%)          29 376 (85.5%)
2013/14     35 580             5 650 (15.9%)          29 930 (84.1%)
2014/15     36 635             6 413 (17.5%)          30 222 (82.5%)

註：
(1) 數字包括英基學校協會(英基)屬下的學校和其他私立國際學校，但不包括英基營辦的特殊
學校。
(2) 本地學生是指具香港永久性居民身分(擁有香港特別行政區居留權)並且沒有外國護照(英
國國民(海外)護照除外)的學生。
(3) 數字反映有關年度9月時的情況。

fatcni

回覆 amd2 的帖子

Thx so much for all info and feedback. Understood we hv no priority in IS which means I need better planning on setting my school list.

nintendo

FattyDaddy 發表於 15-6-7 15:59
(1) It should make a difference if it is a foreign family without PR status vs a local family with P ...

There will be difference. But difference is slight.
The reason is, the school can produce figures that favour them.

The main reason is because there are simply too many people that have dual status. From what I observe at my child's school (STC), most people have dual status. When the majority of students can technically play to be a local or non-local, the impact to 100% local or 100% non-local would be small.
In the end, I do not think, say STC or SJS, would reject anyone just because of status issue.
Oh well. Never mind. There are people that would only want to believe what they prefer to believe.
Do stick to what you want to believe and ignore what is happening at school.

FattyDaddy

nintendo 發表於 15-6-8 17:36
There will be difference. But difference is slight. ...

I agree the difference is slight.

The point I was making is different schools may have different priorities, and EDB does have different expectations on Private Independent Schools (70% PR) and International Schools (70% foreign passports), how the schools play with those expectations is another matter.