RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多，大家有其他意見可參考嗎？

Radiomama

我仔算好彩，在RC遇過不同的class teachers, 他們都是教學認真的老師，算是滿意。不過有朋友説，小學的老師比較軽鬆、中學的老師更加有要求。

至於中文呢，曾經有位中文老師教學不認真，家長們怨聲載道，最後終於離校，大家鼓掌。

CSJ安樂窩

luckyveronique 發表於 15-2-18 17:27
個人認為不要期待可以從一間IS學校學到LS水準的或近似水準的中文。記得之前去RC school tour，招生主任已經 ...

I actually find your rationale quite interesting.  A school harder to get in = better school? A school with more Chinese students would give them better Chinese standard? Personally, I think we need to be fair and appreciate also the effort entered by the teachers and students.  All local schools with pure Chinese and their Chinese standard are all equally strong!?! Lets take SJS as an example, they have a lot more Chinese students than other ESF schools but are their Chinese 'naturally' better than other foundation schools? Also, since you are not yet a SJS parents, I think you better check how many Chinese lesson hours they have every week first (in Year 1).

A few years ago, me and some of my friends gave up SJS for RC.  We didn't think which school was better than the other (We still don't) but just our (me and my kids) feeling and believe about the school.  We like the more spacious / IT environment and the parents mix.  One other thing we appreciate more was that RC had been hiring IB trained teachers rather than transforming them into IB teachers.  I am definitely not saying RC is better than any other schools and certainly, there are still lots of room for improvement but I think what is more important is that the school is willing to work with the parents to make it a better one.  Trust me, when I gave up SJS, a lot of people would say this and that to me but honestly, I didn't need anyone to support my decision.  I can tell you to this day, I don't regret it

To page owner, I don't know much about VSA as I live in the NT.  But I do think it is a very good school just by looking at their recent IB results.  Good luck choosing the right school for your kid

luckyveronique

原帖由 CSJ安樂窩 於 15-02-18 發表
本帖最後由 CSJ安樂窩 於 15-2-18 22:28 編輯

A school harder to get in = better school? 對不起，我從沒發表過類似觀點。祝賀你為自己的孩子找到了好的學校。

CSJ安樂窩

原帖由 luckyveronique 於 15-02-18 發表
A school harder to get in = better school? 對不起，我從沒發表過類似觀點。祝賀你為自己的孩子找到了好 ...

I am not trying to argue but just trying to give interested parents a view from an existing parent Again, there is no best school but best fit one for your child.   I am sure yours will be in good hands too.   Happy New Year

luckyveronique

原帖由 CSJ安樂窩 於 15-02-18 發表
本帖最後由 CSJ安樂窩 於 15-2-18 23:37 編輯

謝謝用家的建議。實際上小女也有幸得到了SJS同RC的offer，很快也要做選擇。如果我認為RC不好，就不會花錢去面試了。只是我選擇學校不是以中文來衡量，因為畢竟讀的國際學校，已有心理準備中文會差一些。我看得更多的是畢業成績和大學去向，所教授的課程，校風，師資等等。校舍和是否就腳我也是放在次要考慮的因素。總之，適合自己的學校才是最好的學校。祝羊年大吉

HIHinsurance

VSA 幾乎無見 過學生 講得到好英文

大部份學生的英文都嚇死人(ORAL)

給你個建議, 你去放學, 用英文去扮問路

你看看VSA 學生講什麼英文

CDNIS, SIS ,VSA 三間拍埋一齊, 你便發覺

讀VSA 似中了伏

附近有三間國際學校, 更清楚

那裡成日塞車, 有司機的父母不少

VSA 想積極轉型, 做一間高檔的國際學校

可惜難

可惜各方面環境都不似配合到

正常DP1校內預計  24分, 會叫你 讀IB CERT

學校SET 26分左右, 不准你讀IB DP,  叫你DROP一科

要讀IB CERT, 學生被玩死, 另外IB TOK/EE 0分的學生比其他學校高


SUPERVISOR 試過最後一星期, 先話佢篇EE 有問題

TOPIC 有問題, 最後一星期先講?

好多學生TOK/EE 最後1分...都無, 即0分

TOK 再重做!

不少 TOK/EE 0分 印證了我的說話

盤數做得好, 入面恐佈

我由學生角度出發



RC 第一屇IB 我一路跟到而家

觀察了變化

如果真係VSA, 與 RC  2間, 唔駛講RC

SJS RC     2間 則選SJS

RC 在其他ESF 搶老師

RC 老師人工較其他英基老師高1成左右

RC 搶到好老師

我較祟尚science, 較喜歡igcse 制度, 所以會選sjs

RC 行MYP , 數學書遠不夠SHATIN COLLEGE深

打開2本數學書, 你便知

SHATIN COLLEGE SET 1,2 maths   已經用緊OXFORD 出的

alevel 書 教year 10


觀察一間學校, 你緊係看最後2年考大學

除非目標不是考大學

在爭論頭幾年無謂

VSA 而家似當年RC 第一屇IB 考生

RC 進步算很快,

原因, 我有一些朋友, 在英國回流返港

仔女突然急找國際學校

仔女, 一報名, 很快收到RC 面試, 及入去

入面RC , 朋友NICE , 佢群外國人玩

你行入去VSA, 看看多少鬼佬鬼妹同學?

再看看, 出來學生, 是否講英文?


我仲記得當年RC 第一屇(LANG B 英文極多人報), 真係嚇死父母

我當年力勸朋友不要入RC


而家都幾年, 進步算多, 我見RC 講英文能力強了很多

我現在覺得RC 是一間可以接受的國際學校

YEAR 10 前 的東西不能作準

因為返學, 混混沌沌 又一天

964000

原帖由 HIHinsurance 於 15-02-19 發表
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 15-2-19 17:04 編輯

VSA 幾乎無見 過學生 講得到好英文

雖然很直接，but really fair comments, thanks. 但如果想中文有個平衡（和SJS比較），選RC也不錯吧？

HIHinsurance

964000 發表於 15-2-19 17:07
雖然很直接，but really fair comments, thanks. 但如果想中文有個平衡（和SJS比較），選RC也不錯吧？



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你中文的平衡是如何?








一般來說,SJS,RC 都講到中文, 但寫都OK. 我們以前的中一程度,當佢地去到LAST YEAR 時

睇報紙就困難了,SJS長大後

RC 中文好好多, 但要去挑戰IB LANG A CHINESE , 我建議三思

因為對手是全球華人

何必強行要仔女LANG A CHINESE

你仔女有冇條件挑戰內地人考中文?

中文三文兩語, 講到 國語, 同 廣東話

就收貨, 英文, 則應該要求要求高

俾咁多錢去國際學校, 都係想學英文

返學講中文, 則 倒錢落海無分別

所以我講,耀中, 是其中一間倒錢落海的學校

一間國際學校, 有幾國際, 看英文成績, 就知道1,2



可能同得外國人玩多, 份人對中國是沒有多少感情

15歲時在RC  讀緊書,  玩CLIFF DIVING  , 同外國同學玩多

玩完, 佢擺上WHATS APP 相頭, 我才知

我再講, RC 學生, 不少九龍塘做PART TIME 賣衫

964000

原帖由 HIHinsurance 於 15-02-19 發表
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 15-2-19 17:32 編輯

我希望中文水平可以看下報紙，明周，一般discussion forum看寫，便收貨，起碼不會太「離地」，人地講笑佢都吾識笑。中國文化，老實講，我不特別投入，如果鐘意的，用鬼佬角度去欣賞也可。

HIHinsurance

964000 發表於 15-2-19 17:55
我希望中文水平可以看下報紙，明周，一般discussion forum看寫，便收貨，起碼不會太「離地」，人地講笑佢都 ...

如果要睇到報紙, 你額外請老師私人補中文, 只教睇報紙

我舉個例, 好多家長, 都係讀lang b 中文 HL/SL

但一些學校都用我地以前的中二, 三書教(啟思中二, 三中文教IB HL LANG B CHINESE )

VSA 睇中文報紙無問題

最好親身,一星期, 望望佢地等巴士

講咩話題

72 個架巴士站, VSA學生愛搭車落CWB STARBUCKS

大把國際學校學生

題外話, RC 一年大概都有2,3 件女拔, 跳到RC

所以你個RC IB 分數,唔好咁開心,因為極可能某些精英入來....

lpanna

HIHinsurance 發表於 15-2-19 16:37
VSA 幾乎無見 過學生 講得到好英文

大部份學生的英文都嚇死人(ORAL)

thx so much, very useful opinion

misskwokwok

原帖由 HIHinsurance 於 15-02-19 發表
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 15-2-19 18:06 編輯

如無錯的話，剛剛在RCHK IB攞45分的學生在RCHK由細讀上，算係RCHK湊大的。其他側不太清楚。

964000

原帖由 misskwokwok 於 15-02-21 發表
如無錯的話，剛剛在RCHK IB攞45分的學生在RCHK由細讀上，算係RCHK湊大的。其他側不太清楚。



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Yes, I heard she is an Indian, not Chinese.

Lamk2

Does it matter Chinese or not? An international school should hv good mix of students. It really depends on the student herself or himself, how much effort she/ he put into and how's the school teaching standard.

CSJ安樂窩

Lamk2 發表於 15-2-22 00:23
Does it matter Chinese or not? An international school should hv good mix of students. It really dep ...

I think you have misunderstood why the parents mentioned it was an Indian gal who got full score last year in RC.  They were referring to HIHinsurance's comment on this-->"題外話, RC 一年大概都有2,3 件女拔, 跳到RC, 所以你個RC IB 分數,唔好咁開心,因為極可能某些精英入來".  They were just trying to point out that the top student in RC last year was a home grown gal.

HiHinsurance, I think your comments on RC were fair but I would like to add your comment:

1) Not all local students at RC are required to do Chinese A.  I know for a fact that a local kid who joined RC at Year 7 from a local elite school, he will not be doing Chinese at all for his IBDP and a few others are doing Chinese B instead.

2) I think most IS do intake some local school kids at higher forms, RC is not alone.

3) (this need to be confirmed) When I took my kid for SJS interview a few years back, I did ask them if doing PYP but not follow up by MYP is better or not.  I was told then that I shouldn't need to worry at all as SC was working on getting accreditation on MYP.  This is only hearsay but please, share with your inside knowledge.

4) (This is personal believe) I don't think the first 10 years are not important.  In fact, those years are very important in terms of building up their 'way of thinking' which could be very important when they come to deal with IBDP.

pppwong

原帖由 luckyveronique 於 15-02-18 發表
謝謝用家的建議。實際上小女也有幸得到了SJS同RC的offer，很快也要做選擇。如果我認為RC不好，就不會花錢去 ...

Do you mind sharing how your kid's English is trained? Both my husband and I speak English to my boy but as the grandparents speak Cantonese to him on a daily basis, I'm still identifying ways to escalate his English. Any views?

misskwokwok

原帖由 964000 於 15-02-21 發表
Yes, I heard she is an Indian, not Chinese.

No, is 100% HK family

CSJ安樂窩

原帖由 misskwokwok 於 15-02-23 發表
No, is 100% HK family

15-2-23 21:57 上傳

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Artie

The RCHK discussions in EK are really interesting.(1)  The girl is indian.
(2)  My son is in Year 11 and his Math class is doing partly DP Math SL materials. If that is still considered easy, then I do not know what to say.
There seems to be quite some false information of RCHK here.
Some people seem to enjoy putting them up here.
And some other seem to enjoy reading them.

jemima

Want to seek some opinion too. My boy is currently in victoria kindie. And we also received esf offer.

We are just a local family, and we want our kid to have a less stressful childhood (That's why we aim iB/ international). We hope he can have a good command of English and we are trying our best to provide support, at the same time we hope to have an acceptable level of chinese. Shall I stay in Vic for potential priority to enter VSA (150/~700 Vic graduates) or change to ESf for an interview priority and thus a perceived privilege to enter eSF primary or RC?   Thanks for the advice!!