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KITTY.WONG 發表於 14-10-23 09:16
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概然他們認為是中央有錯，為何不直接上京請願？

呢個問題我都曾經提出過：人大常委831落閘決定係引起公憤的癥結，抗議示威應該直接針對中央或駐港中聯辦，那麼就應該佔西環而非佔金鐘/旺角/銅鑼灣。

但佔中人士卻認為：梁班子的政改報告偏頗，沒有真確反映廣大港人對『冇篩選真普選』的訴求，只是按亞爺意願(即全面封殺民主派入閘選特首以達維穩的終極目標) 呈交政改報告，令亞爺「名正言順、理直氣壯」地作出鐵腕式的831落閘決定。所以他們要梁班子撥亂反正，再向人大常委反映民意爭取『冇篩選真普選』。

亮燈

我們不需要英雄，只需要公平、公正、公義、有良心、有同理心的市民及下一代，如果沒有以上的市民會怎樣？很簡單，請你北上越過羅湖橋，便可親身體驗這比小說更離奇的世界了。

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這是很多人的錯誤比喻，總是將政治事件跟學校相比，如立法會開會，比喻作學生上課，立法會主席是老師，立法會議員因事擲物或大罵政府官員是不恰當，議員應該靜靜地開會等等。請理性分析，學生去學校上課，是因為要學習知識、禮貌、道德等等。而議員去立法會開會，是因為他們由市民選出，代表市民有議會發聲，所以他們不是上課、學習知識，而是有市民授權代表他們發聲的。當然，如果議員的行為舉止令選民討厭或背棄選民，選民下一屆自然不會再選他。

亮燈

學生發現老師改錯試卷給錯分數，當然要向老師反應，我亦相信老師不會刻意給錯分的，但現在中共是刻意霸王硬上弓地違背自己曾經承諾給香港的普選，而香港政府不但沒有反映香港人的意願，還助紂為虐幫中共打壓香港，香港政府當然要負責向北京反映，所以學生及市民便要令香港政府做應做的事，而所有最和平、透過最正常的途徑也做過，但這政府無動於衷，於是便用這種方法給壓力這個政府了，而這政府就將政治問題用法律解決，結果便成了這局面了。

alee810

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十分同意亮燈說法, 只要進入大陸境內, 另一個世界就會出現, 我老板是在大陸開玩具廠, 本人亦需要每星期到大陸一遊, 10多年上上落落的工作, 認識到"大陸化"生活後, 真的極度恐慌會出現在香港,

Iamsylar

scyauchris 發表於 14-10-23 09:18
不是因為漼淚彈令我想把女兒送往外國，是因為某部份反佔人士的行為及惡毒的言行令我想盡快把女兒送到外國去 ...

Exactly!
每次聽到甚麽「外國勢力」、「背後陰謀」,就覺得可笑和可悲!

亮燈

呢D叫做賊喊捉賊，真正既外國勢力，就係中共本身，佢就係靠當年蘇聯既支持黎奪取中國政權。

scyauchris

如果香港慢慢一步步走向和內地化，香港便完全失去佢獨有特色，到時香港死得更快。

Ruby1219

原帖由 亮燈 於 14-10-23 發表
我們不需要英雄，只需要公平、公正、公義、有良心、有同理心的市民及下一代，如果沒有以上的市民會怎樣？很 ...

我們不需要英雄，只需要公平、公正、公義、有良心、有同理心的市民及下一代 >> cant agree more !!

亮燈

明白，沒問題的。謝謝你。

elmkc

alee810 發表於 14-10-23 11:14
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十分同意亮燈說法, 只要進入大陸境內, 另一個世界就會出現, 我老板是在大陸開玩具廠, 本 ...

I agree that Hong Kong is much more civilised than mainland nowadays. But, we need to give them time to learn and develop. One of my relatives also needs to face a lot of people in China, but they are mainland university graduates. He said they were smart and bright and learned very fast to become more civilised. They've got chances to overseas and known very well about the world.

One question: How do you feel about our indigenous people in New Territories? I am not looking down upon them. But, do you think that they are as civilised as you? It's not good to just take a portion of less civilised mainland people to represent the whole situation in mainland.

I really don't see that Hong Kong will become "de-civilised". It is possible to predict that one day mainland will become more civilised as well as more modernised than Hong Kong if we don't focus on improving ourselves, especially our narrow-minded visions.

Ruby1219

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i see some HK ppl becoming de-civilized by their standpoint of pro govt and police for exercising over and illegal violence on the protesters.  those well-off ladies in my post (on previous page) who mercy those 7 policemen (confidentially beating Tsang Kin Chiu)  and even said they commited a mistake not beating him in a toilet or in police stations,  are de-civilized and inhuman.  and i am horrified to see this group growing in HK and surrounding me!

Tommy

我唔排除佔中有外國人資助，但這跟我們向佔中同學送水，送食物，送物資無太大分別。

我在金金鐘也從一位女學生手上接過一個橙，這個橙可能來自美國，但又如何？難道這個橙可令我推翻中國共產黨？

有外國勢力又如何？應做的事就要去做！難道因為有外國人參與，我們就站在邪惡那一方？

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說得對

KITTY.WONG

Ruby1219 發表於 14-10-23 13:13
我們不需要英雄，只需要公平、公正、公義、有良心、有同理心的市民及下一代 >> cant agree more !!



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現在他們卻令到社會市民生活混亂，巴士公司要拖巴士又唔比、電車公司要求將電車駛回車廠又唔比，連輸界要求讓出一條馬路又唔比，
這是公平、公正、公義、有良心和同情人心?

elmkc

Ruby1219 發表於 14-10-23 17:25
i see some HK ppl becoming de-civilized by their standpoint of pro govt and police for exercising ov ...

If you just simply take some examples to conclude that Hong Kong is de-civlized, then you can do the same to point out that all Western countries are becoming de-civilzed.

elmkc

Tommy 發表於 14-10-23 18:43
我唔排除佔中有外國人資助，但這跟我們向佔中同學送水，送食物，送物資無太大分別。

我在金金鐘也從一位女 ...

Certainly, an orange will not change us. But, million dollars will make a difference.

"應做的事就要去做！" - This is right on condition that what you are going to do will not affect others.

lui

Well said. Even some of my colleagues in china who are not those well educated are civilized not to mention those well educated. My senior finance managers in china are far well smarter than a deputy finance director in Hk who is a CPA, CFA. I see the potential of ppl in mainland and I hardly see much potential in our next generation. That's really sad, not to mention if they can survive in the future or competitive.

elmkc

JP 發表於 14-10-23 10:16
呢個問題我都曾經提出過：人大常委831落閘決定係引起公憤的癥結，抗議示威應該直接針對中央或駐港中聯辦， ...

Both Hong Kong government and mainland government have said that they have already considered all comments. They have also listened to the comments from pan-democrats when they went to mainland.

I would guess that those occupying Admiralty don't go to Western District because they know that policemen or the Army must clear them up. You can also see that Army's barrack is just a block away in Admiralty, but those who occupy Central dare not to occupy there.

elmkc

lui 發表於 14-10-23 23:38
Well said. Even some of my colleagues in china who are not those well educated are civilized not to  ...

Totally agreed. If Hong Kong people can contact more of the mainland people, they will find how strong they are.

It's unfortunate that they just focus on those who are not civilised to infer that all are not civilised.