Cdnis or SIS

shadeslayer

Jane1983  我只看top5-10%，平均咪睇公開試成績  發表於 14 分鐘前

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Top 5 to 10% can self-motivate and excel regardless of the schools?  Top 10% of local schools students can't even speak or write reasonable English despite having learn English for 15 years by the time they enter University.

Jane1983

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這個有也好討論？你話local差的，英文甩頭甩骨，佢話IS差的，吸毒濫交。傾極都無意思。

Jane1983

我覺得呢一代人的小朋友，好的local schools出來，top10%的英文未至於咁差。一來自少有傭人，家裡經常講，吾會話驚講英文，二來父母超重視，會伴讀伴講，致力提高。

我住果度有吾少讀local schools的小朋友和讀IS的在會所一齊玩，佢地有時講英文，有時講廣東話，吾差呀！

shadeslayer

shadeslayer  you missed the point, we are not talking about IS vs LS. You said highly motivated self learners who do not need a school. I said 1% and you said 10%. Let the views judge what is reasonable  發表於 1 秒前

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Even we say 10%, what about the 90% who are just normal kids?  What is the point of saying for the top 1%/10% students, schools do not make a difference?  What about the rest of the 99%/90%?

Jane1983

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你真係煩，你鍾意扮教育家，最好去教育局搵份工！
我講我的想法，無打算同你辯論，不如你以後吾話答我d留言啦！

shadeslayer

Jane1983 發表於 14-4-24 23:42
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你真係煩，你鍾意扮教育家，最好去教育局搵份工！

人地樓主問選校意見，你卻以專家口吻說尖子咩學校也一樣，我只說出咁講無乜用，講左等如無講。你似專家多D。

唔想人回你，你唔出文咪得囉。出左文又唔比人回，你咁大爺嘅？

Jane1983

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你系度甘多年，就系撩事鬥非，令人討厭。
吾該過主啦，我吾想簁時間！

jilin1960

Hi ,Jane,pls check pm.thx a lot.

shadeslayer

原帖由 Jane1983 於 14-04-25 發表
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你系度甘多年，就系撩事鬥非，令人討厭。

人地樓主問選校意見，你説你的意見「尖子咩學校也一樣」，我說出我的意見「只講尖子對討論和對樓主無乜用」。我一句咁認真的說話如何撩是鬥非？

咁普通的對話，你亂扣我帽子，用D咁尖刻的言詞駡人，看官自有判斷。

Jane1983

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看咩官判咩斷，你就係當呢度係擂台，吓吓同人肉搏，所以咁惡頂。
人地上嚟交流吓，啱傾咪傾，吾啱咪算，邊有你咁係要嘈過死去活過，一定要講最後果句。

見你蝦蝦霸霸，忍你好耐。

ikerberg

Jane1983 發表於 14-4-25 12:56
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看咩官判咩斷，你就係當呢度係擂台，吓吓同人肉搏，所以咁惡頂。

FattyDaddy

> slamai  Your example proves nothing meaningful at all

Hehe, obviously it is meaningless ... to you.

My example was really just a dramatic way to say "it is very difficult to think like a Chinese without knowing much Chinese", if you disagree with that, it is fine by me {:1_1:}

shadeslayer

FattyDaddy 發表於 14-4-25 15:37
> slamai  Your example proves nothing meaningful at all

Hehe, obviously it is meaningless ... to yo ...

So it means language is a conduit, or a tool to communicating with others speaking the same language and understanding the culture. Language is part of the culture in a broad sense, but a conduit/tool nevertheless.  Having said this, if a parent thinks language is more important than anything else in education including curriculum, teachers, teaching style, workload etc, he/she should be respected.

jolalee

jolalee 發表於 14-4-22 15:05
Just to clarify, I believe CDNIS teaches in simplified Chinese. I think it is SIS that teaches in tr ...

After much confusion and searching, i found out that CDNIS teaches BOTH simplified & traditional Chinese, depending on which stream is chosen:

http://sites.cdnis.edu.hk/school/chinese/files/2014/01/Differences-between-Language-A-B-Mandarin-Stream.pdf
Language A-- Reading and writing: traditional characters are taught. Simplified characters are introduced in the Upper School
Language B-- Reading and writing: simplified characters are taught. Traditional characters are introduced for practical recognition purposes

I think this is quite thoughtful. Kids with Chinese background can learn the more difficult but culture related traditional characters while keeping the expat kids happy with simplified characters which is much easier to learn. No wonder why CDNIS has a much higher non-Asian population compared with the other Chinese heavy IS, while still up holding the reputation of teaching Chinese well. (Again, every parent's requirement is different. for my family, as long as the kid can read the local newspaper by primary graduation i am happy. that's basically my own level anyway)

For some parents, it is important to expose the kids in an international community where Asian is not the dominant culture, otherwise it is somewhat losing the point of going to an International school. How CDNIS did it allows both cultures to coexist within the same school without losing out on families who want their children to learn some decent Chinese. After finding this out I am much happier with CDNIS.

hkparent

原帖由 jolalee 於 14-04-26 發表
本帖最後由 jolalee 於 14-4-26 09:31 編輯

That's why I said I would also choose CDNIS. If I want a traditional teaching method, tests and exams, Asian classmates, higher academic pressure in primary school years, and English and Mandarin, I could choose some good local schools teaching Chinese in Mandarin and English by NET. They are much cheaper than SIS, and I wouldn't be afraid of the Singlish problem (as at SIS many of the classmates would be Singaporeans who pick up Singlish from their parents).

shadeslayer

hkparent 發表於 14-4-26 12:54
That's why I said I would also choose CDNIS. If I want a traditional teaching method, tests and exam ...

I worked with many Singaporean and it seems to me educated Singaporean can "control" their accent.  They speak without much accent at work but when they go out for a drink or when they are relaxed, their Singaporean accent comes out.  Even so, it is not that big a deal for Singaporean having a bit of Singaporean accent.  For HK people to speak with Singaporean accent is a different thing.  Of course I have no idea what is it like in SIS.  If parents say there isn't a problem, others have no reasons to suspect otherwise.

RayEE

原帖由 compsognathus 於 14-04-23 發表
本帖最後由 compsognathus 於 14-4-23 22:23 編輯

I am a SIS student currently in P6, having started ...

After reading your message, if i were given a choice to choose cdnis or sis, my preference definitely goes cdnis, aha.

If packing up late at the end of the day, talking in the classroom... as what you mentioned will result being scolded by teachers and that is considered "normal"... I will be so sad for my child.

compsognathus

My parents and I all do not quite know the standards of modern traditional teaching methods, with local schools having changed since my parents were my age and the fact that I am an only child studying at an international school. However, love and positive learning attitudes are present at SIS. I do not know what teachers at CDNIS or local schools are like, but at SIS, all teachers are strict in discipline but some are stricter than the others. Such is the case with my Mandarin Chinese teacher, being one of the stricter types of teachers. Ask yourself. Does talking in class when not permitted, disrupting the lesson and therefore  the learning experience of everyone else, or packing up before the lesson ends, not warrant a scolding? I would like to ask; in what situations is talking among yourselves in class permitted in other international schools?

To address a worry faced by some parents, Singlish is not a problem at SIS.Singaporean students at SIS are mostly capable of speaking without their accent, and attempts at speaking Singlish by a native Singaporean student have failed badly, due to some pronunciation issues not present in Singlish. In fact, many students mock the Singaporean accent of some teachers in the Mathematics department. SIS does not stress on pronunciation of words, but it is safe to assume that most Singaporean students at SIS do not pick up an accent.

SIS is relatively relaxed on student expectations. Many SIS students have time for extracurricular/recreational activities after school or, if applicable,tuition, and some of them have a lot of fun learning at school. I have a friend who studies at an excellent local school. He is currently extremely stressed about getting enough marks in his examinations to be promoted to the secondary section of his school, while I am rather relaxed with a lot of time on my hands, and I even have time to get on BK.

I am not trying to persuade you into applying for SIS. When I joined this thread,I wanted to address the issue of stress in students. Which school you file an application for your children is not my business.

ikerberg

compsognathus 發表於 14-4-26 20:41
My parents and I all do not quite know the standards of modern traditional teaching methods, with lo ...

HI compsognathus, it seems we have lost sight of you for a few years?!  Welcome back!  

I am glad to see you grow and having developed remarkable English proficiency.

I would be more than pleased if my children's English standard could reach your level when they are in P.6.

All I wish to say to you is  --- stay cool and enjoy school life.

All the best!  

HIHinsurance

Sis 數理比 加 cdnis 強好多

入香港的大學 首選sis

暑假幾個grade 11 cdnis父母一齊睇加拿大大學