Is Phonics really useful to HK kids?

sweet_heart2011

Is Phonics really useful for kids learning English as a second language in a non-native environment?  (i.e. classmates all local, parents local, relatives local)  I see a lot of Phonics classes in HK and it seems everyone is talking Phonics.

Phonics allow one to read an English word with approximately correct pronunication, but it won't make one understand the meaning of the words and won't make one able to speak fluently or make one able to listen to what native (with different accents) speakers say.  English is such a irregular language with so so many exception in pronunciation that no rules can be applied consistently.

I think Phonics is more helpful to people in an native English environment because they already speak / listen to the language from parents, teachers, TV and friends but they may not know the words yet.  By learning Phonics they can link the words to meaning and learn the spelling too.

Just sharing my views on Phonics...

MrBeast

I had the same question as u b4.  

The pre-req then is to build up enough vocabs b4 starting phonics

bbmom72

朋友個囝讀緊小一，要作英文壓韻詩，唔識phonics 好難作到。

siukeung37

如果識phonics就識作詩，咁phonics就真係有啲用

zoe@3510

背生字有用, 因為你聽到個發音, 已大至識串, 死記好易忘掉。

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原帖由 MrBeast 於 13-11-29 發表
I had the same question as u b4.  

The pre-req then is to build up enough vocabs b4 starting phonic ...

Agree

Large vocabulary base and being conversant in English is p're-requisite to making use if phonics.


Useless to those who can even speak or understand.


I wouldn't pay large amount of money for phonics.

藍藍媽

原帖由 zoe@3510 於 13-11-29 發表
背生字有用, 因為你聽到個發音, 已大至識串, 死記好易忘掉。

作為一個响香港讀中文小學、英文中學的“知識分子”…… 我覺得phonics 應該有用…… 我地細個讀英文，要默書考試，見到d英文字要背時都係老作個音俾佢…… 作得多都大概知個pattern , 但過程好痛苦，既然有d方法去學，一定好過自己慢慢摸索…… 這是我個人意見

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原帖由 bbmom72 於 13-11-29 發表
朋友個囝讀緊小一，要作英文壓韻詩，唔識phonics 好難作到。

鬼佬 or native speakers never really had to learn phonics but they can make rhymes too.


Phonics is only a set of general rules to help you spell words and read.

Same way like putonghua pinyin .  Not all PTH speakers know the proper pinyin but they can read write and comminucaye well.

peddypeddy

同意
我仲記得細個串字將d字斬開幾舊用d讀音去記點串，諗番都幾搞笑

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原帖由 peddypeddy 於 13-11-29 發表
同意
我仲記得細個串字將d字斬開幾舊用d讀音去記點串，諗番都幾搞笑

Well   you learned phonics and blending on your own

MrBeast

picture 發表於 13-11-29 19:18
鬼佬 or native speakers never really had to learn phonics but they can make rhymes too.

I asked my 鬼佬 fd abt phonics a few years ago and he replied, "whats that".  But as a second language for my kid, i realised its v useful to learn to survive the local primary school curriculum.  nowadays, think schools in england also use phonics to teach their kids.

TeriAnla

Phonics主要學嚟應付本地幼稚園和小學。一日到黑都默書，點記禁多字。係香港讀書一路都係求學只是求分數。

sbux

原帖由 peddypeddy 於 13-11-29 發表
同意
我仲記得細個串字將d字斬開幾舊用d讀音去記點串，諗番都幾搞笑

tion 我標「唇」

藍藍媽

原帖由 peddypeddy 於 13-11-29 發表
同意
我仲記得細個串字將d字斬開幾舊用d讀音去記點串，諗番都幾搞笑

但最搞笑係個個同學作既音都唔同……哈哈

corachanyy

如果我讀書時有機會讀風力士，而家D英文應該會好D…

angie0828

原帖由 sbux 於 13-11-29 發表
tion 我標「唇」

Same here 分唇

alicekeith

原帖由 angie0828 於 13-11-29 發表
Same here 分唇

細過連中文字都未識寫時，會畫圖畫 ：唇

Annbaat

我讀小學英文最差，經常將if讀成with，中三暑假自己報讀phonics班，英文發音雖未講到外國人，但真係有改善，而且phonics都有助記生字。

sbux

就係因為唔識拼音，我自細越短嘅字就越易讀錯，因為無得用拆，例如Soup, Saop 好難用中文拆記，所以讀到一舊舊。如果識Phonics應該會好D

sbux

原帖由 alicekeith 於 13-11-29 發表
細過連中文字都未識寫時，會畫圖畫 ：唇

有呀有呀，本英文書真係有血有水汗嫁