I位老師常投訴,想我去S位,點算?

cckmyson

My son is diagnosed as Auistic Features and is now 2.5 in old,  the clinical psychologists from both private centre and gov't centre both recommened him to I position study and luckily, my son was arragned to study in a I  nursery class in a kindergarden.  However,  my son needs time to adapt and so the teacher used to say that my son's improvement is slow in progress and always said that to recommend him to S class of S school.   My son still could not speak well and could only speak Mum  and 姐 and  Grandma (the women who look after him) but could not speak Father.  Since he could not express well and so may have bad temper in sometimes and so the teacher would accuse him this point  to us when he studied a few days.  Moreover, he could not give any signal before he piss or go to have stool and also accused by the teacher to us.  My wife's sister learnt that the teachers would like to have inactive children who have development problems, since such children though who might not express well but would not cause any inconvenience to the teachers.  

Recently, in the Hand Book of Sep, the teacher wrote the comment that my son have improvement in his sentiment and have some improvement to adaption to the school life but the teacher still accused him could not  do piss or stool properly and would not listen to instruction to sleep properly (the teacher said that my son used to sleep half to 1 hr only but the sleeping period is 2 hrs) and caused inconvenience to them and told us again why we don't choose S study. We told the teachers that the two psychologists recommended him to I study.  


So, what could we do,  Are any parents could suggest any I schoool with 有 愛心的 I位幼稚園學校 或小班教育的 I位幼稚園學校.

Please advise.  Thanks in advance for any advice to me.   Thanks.

ppyy333

首先, 除非搬屋搬到無雷公咁遠; 否則I位系唔可以轉校.
只可以轉服務; 如 EETC (早期訓練中心) 或 S (特殊幼兒中心).

如果樓主而家己經用緊I位, 唔系I位學校普通位;比著我會轉服務, 兼轉校.
間學校擺明無心搞您仔, 您講MUD都無用, JIAN 個仔受罪.  
如果系等緊I位GE, 不如再開POST 或 週圍收風邊間比較做得好少少.

要轉服務系要CAC醫生評估 或 I位的臨床心理學家評的, 絶對唔系I位老師, 主任, 校長, 話就得.....
開學得果個多月就咁多嘢講, 此地未必宜久留......

其實入S位唔系壞事.... S位人手比例好好多, 1:6, 又有個別 / 小組堂, 再加DD私人訓練就好夠.
仲有多D房上個別, 小組堂.

I位質素真系可以好參差, 如學校地方細 人多, I位老師/ST 言語治療 個別堂, 隨時只系坐响課堂一角 (布簾都無), 其他小朋友四圍走, 嘈嘈閉咁上..... 小朋友己經易分心, 難坐定, 仲要系咁"好"的環境,更難學嘢.....
如間I位學校, 課室安排到布簾隔一隔, EVEN 系教員室/ 校務處.... 等靜小小的地方做訓練, 己經算好.
I位老師系唔少學校系亞4, 可以要頂替假, 打雜, 有無做足, 不得而知.....

ANYWAY, 如間學校咁講嘢, 樓主還是諗定小朋友後路好啦.......  

methy

各區都有I位幼稚園，你講明邊區先易d有人比到意見。

另外建議你搵下自己區有既I位幼稚園，打電話同校長傾下小朋友情況，了解下學校老師對A仔既認識，同佢地點照顧，最緊要係有愛心。

我小朋友大小肌問題，不過都會因為做唔到某d動作，例如入學初期行路都超易跌，食完飯收拾餐具，係平衡唔到拎去收集處，會發脾四，但老師從未同我投訴過，佢地識得處理佢情緒，亦盡佢地能力幫阿仔郁多d,雖然阿仔係讀普通位，但呢間幼兒園大部分老師都讀過I位課程，所以都識處理。

阿仔讀了9個月就派到S位，當然S位更適合佢，7人一班，老師照顧週到，物理治療師係課堂上安排治療原素，加強效果。

正常幼稚園學位都緊張，都幾難有小班的。

scholar

如果i位老師真的覺得有需要,就轉s位.
s位1:6, 可以題供更多個人training, 小朋友如果追到, 將來可以轉出主流.

cckmyson

Thanks to  all the above 好人.  I am poor in Chinese Typing but I shall try hard to type in Chinese.

老師說我兒子返了1個月學,情緒好了,但他因是A仔,現在2.5years 只懂叫媽媽,嫲嫲及姐姐(工人),其餘是BB話,所以不懂表達上厠所及只肯sleep half to 1 hour (學校午睡時間是2小時), 由於言語表達不足,老師說他有時會發脾氣, 應學校要求I  keep on one by one Occuptional Therapy& Speech Therapy in Heep Hong alternate week and 每週協康幼兒導師訓練.  However, the teacher still accused my son is reluctant to go to toilet to piss or to have stool and have bad temper if the familiarized teacher was leaving and could not sleep in accordance with the schedule designed by the school.

I told the teacher that we would try our best to cooperate with the school but the teacher reiterated why we did not choose S school.  

May I have more information what means EETC (E位).

Thanks a lot.

cckmyson

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Thanks for ppyy333's advice.

Could you tell me more about EETC.  Thanks.

angels'mom

EETC 即我們一般叫的 E位或早期訓練，按小朋友的需要安排所得的服務，包括ST, PT, OT, PST及小組。

由家人帶陪同上堂，上完堂回家自行訓練，不過有可能上堂的時間每星期會有不同。

Cinken

建議你打電話找SCCC and ETTC 社工去預約參觀both SCCC and EETC,了解多點,再與現時I位比較,再作定論,看什麼service合適

ppyy333

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社署網頁: 學前兒童康復服務

http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_rehab/sub_listofserv/id_serpresch/

學前兒童康復服務

早 期 教 育 及 訓 練 中 心

幼 稚 園 暨 幼 兒 中 心 兼 收 計 劃

特 殊 幼 兒 中 心

設 有 住 宿 服 務 的 特 殊 幼 兒 中 心

殘 疾 幼 兒 暫 託 服 務

社署條隊:

http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_rehab/sub_admissiont/id_crsrehabwa/

樓主, 您大可以問有關中心, 佢地的服務詳情.

但而家系學期頭, 就算有人寫到紙比您轉服務, 您好大機會都要等一年至轉到位.

個I位老師咁多嘢講, 佢同您傾咗IEP (個別教育計劃) 未???

就算剛做好IEP, 而家都系10月啫, 佢同個仔做咗好多訓練哩咩?

佢又憑什麼建議個小朋友去S位???

佢夠薑就叫 I位的心理學家 (PSY) 嚟睇個小朋友, 等個PSY落嚟評估, 寫埋紙比您轉S位… 不過,我諗個PSY好大機會會丙個I位老師…

開咗學有幾耐咁大把呀??

個人估計, 個I位老師或者間I位學校系控制唔到個場面, 對樓主您講大堆?嘢, 等您自己 找CAC 或 私人 再評估搞轉位… 最好焗到您即刻送個小朋友去私人S位 EVEN 退出I位, 等其他服務… 到時佢地就拍拍手, 關人個關…  任何位, 任何服務, 總有未如理想的時候, 無奈…

開學一個多月就咁多嘢講: 小朋友坐唔定, 唔肯講要去厠所 EVEN 去厠所扭計, 午睡只睡一小時, 都咁多KE GUT??? 本人實在懷疑個I位老師有機掂......

TRAIN唔肯講嘢的小朋友去厠所, 幼兒學校有好多嘢可以做.

例如: 小朋友想坐番自己坐開果個POTTY, 唔慣學校果款, 可唔可以系適應期間放一個同款的系學校, 比小朋友熟絡下先.或 勤D叫助理姐姐定期帶佢去厠所, 用多D 個TOILET比佢自己習慣.  再唔系, 初頭太多嘢搞唔掂, 比小朋友用住 PULL UP 片先, 等大家熟絡D至慢慢 做 TOILET TRAINING.....

點解要CHOOSE N班開學, 大部份小朋友都系剛開始上學, 至至混亂的時候嚟同個I位家長咁多多事實……… 都明知個小朋友很可能會較論盡, 仲系咁响傷口灑鹽!!

難道全班N班都介哂片,上堂做嘢坐定定,跟到哂流程???

唔瞓午覺或睡很短, 唔少正常的小朋友都系咁. 通常學校對肯乖乖地躺床的就叫佢地繼續躺, 唔肯躺就坐系側邊, 再唔系就响教員室開 小玩具, 圖書比佢… 比D靜態少少的活動佢.
老師, 助理姐姐一路食飯, 一路輪流睇住果幾個唔瞓的小朋友…

cckmyson

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Thanks a lot to ppyy333

cckmyson

Thanks to all the above parents' valuable advices.

I observed that many students in N1 (nursery) who could not go to toilet properly and same as my son that they needs to use Pampers Pull-up.

The teacher told me that my  son has some progress.  He could eat lunch by himself (with spoon)  for recent two times for which he would only take a few spoons and then requested the maid or mother to feed up him in home and was willing to have breakfast together in recent two times. in school.  I hope the teacher could have patient  and love concern to my son.   I believe that any child could have progress under a lovely environment.  

methy

間學校無咩愛心，小兒N班時1／3都未戒片，入學3-4個月就差不多戒哂（不包括小兒），但最後係入學後8個月都終於戒到，老師嬸嬸唔怕煩，叫我唔好同佢著學習褲，佢地密d同佢去廁所同換濕左既褲，我好感激學校架。


如果你小朋友仍然留底讀，你大把說話聽。

kikigal

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我兒子入過E位, 去I位, 後來被轉介去S位, 今年九月已入S位.
(短短半年間, 聽過無數說話... 經常同心理學家溝通... 校長又說他們無能為力, 人手做不到...)

學校立場, 午睡時間兩小時, 就算無ZzzZzz都要留o係自己張床, 保持安靜, 對一個小朋友來說根本好難做到.
至於小朋友唔表達如廁需要, 就係要老師指引/幫助小朋友表達, 未懂用口講, 可教他用動作手指指表達..
如果能說話自如, 交流無問題, 自理OK的話, 何必入I位呢?

既然學校/心理學家願意幫你轉介S位就去啦, S位訓練/照顧時間比較多, 而且師生比例好, S位老師會明白小朋友需要, 有方法令他們情緒穩定, 愉快學習.

如果想了解近屋企的S位, 可打電話去約參觀... 直接跟他們說你們的需要.
又可以申請, 比你的小朋友1星期去1次S位暫托(1-2小時, $16@2hrs, 玩玩具/看書/看管, 沒有訓練), 看看小朋友的情況.

我兒子只入讀了1個月... 竟然可以適應全日學校生活(曾經去過暫托10次左右)... 很佩服S位的老師和治療師.

pocoyo123

你可叫學校安排 心理學家到校觀課做評估, 從而知道小朋友是否需要轉位, 你現在安排, 都要等兩三個月, 等到佢評估完再決定.

又或者, 自己打去CAC搵醫務社工, 同佢講返學後小朋友情況有問題, 要求再見心理學家, 咁樣都可以

opuyo_kannus

原帖由 scholar 於 13-10-07 發表
如果i位老師真的覺得有需要,就轉s位.
s位1:6, 可以題供更多個人training, 小朋友如果追到, 將來可以轉出主 ...

Totally agree.有時可能係大人唔想佢掛s呢個名。其實佢走左都有第二個i仔入番，佢始終要教，唔通真係個個都掃佢地走咩。不過，入s唔係一定唔好，起碼訓練密好多，得益始終係自己小朋友

HopeLJ

S 位同 I 位訓練方向唔同。S位較重提升自我能力，訓練個人化。I 位較著重融入大組，跟常規，社交，跟普通幼稚園課程，要求較高。以樓主小朋友未有言語下，S位現階段應該幫助大點。到基本能力如理解言語提升再轉出I位，接受不同的社交鍛鍊，比較容易接上主流小學。另小朋友2。5歳未斷片是很正常，不要介懐。

Anpanmama

原帖由 cckmyson 於 13-10-07 發表
My son is diagnosed as Auistic Features and is now 2.5 in old,  the clinical psychologists from both ...

有時唔關愛心問題，小朋友係唔得就點包容都係多得，再拖仲累咗佢！明白嗎？

Anpanmama

原帖由 cckmyson 於 13-10-07 發表
My son is diagnosed as Auistic Features and is now 2.5 in old,  the clinical psychologists from both ...

有時唔關愛心問題，小朋友係唔得就點包容都係多得，再拖仲累咗佢！明白嗎？

bauhiniakan2000

cckmyson 發表於 13-10-7 17:12
Thanks to  all the above 好人.  I am poor in Chinese Typing but I shall try hard to type in Chinese. ...

我A仔2歲4個月連bb話都無,2歲5個月講到好多雙語詞,多d同佢講,儲埋一講就好多架啦,現在三歲半已追到好接近,加油.

Olympian

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我仔剛五歲現在讀S位最叻的一組。今年跟他同組有一個新同學只得3歲幾。
我見佢每日上學和在課室都掛著甜笑，沒有情緒行為問題。
有日我問佢:你係咪行路返學？佢答:係呀﹗我問:熱嘛？佢答:唔熱。佢答得好淡定同埋係唔駛諗唧，好自然。
我問佢媽佢咩事入來讀？佢話係自閉。我話佢咁叻點解要入來讀？佢話想打好個底，S位的訓練是最全面，讀兩年先再出主流。其實佢個仔只係小肌弱一點....

其實學校好多小朋友能力都不弱，好多做完評估都返主流小學就讀，我們選S位都是因為明白S位的訓練是最好的。I 位訓練最有限，我認為S位進步了再轉出去I位，比一開始就進I位理想。

E位訓練較多較好，但要返主流幼稚園。如果I位老師都照不到的小朋友，就要諗下一般主流幼稚園更有可能搞唔掂。我也認同有時唔係關事有學校冇愛心的問題。