聖保羅男女中學 vs 李寶椿國際書院

中天英

Shootastar 發表於 13-8-15 11:14
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Regarding DBS, it seems that you have ignored (or slighted) University of Washin ...

NYU難過入Harvard/Yale/Princeton?
唔明，點解？

中天英

Shootastar 發表於 13-8-15 15:22
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This is a good question.

唔係喎，呢幾年LPC都有唔少學生入倒Harvard/Yale/Princeton。
其實呢三間大學，每年每間都收緊香港學校嘅學生，並冇改變。

Shootastar

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I have to declare my interest. None of my kids study at DBS / SPCC /DGS or am I associated with these schools. What I analyse are facts of the case.
In 80+, not so many families could afford to send the kids to study overseas. If they do, they would send them to UK because the qualifications obtained in UK are directly recognized in Hong Kong. Not so many families are interested to send their kids to US mainly for 2 reasons.

Firstly, it is more expensive to study in US because it is a 4-year program (instead of 3 in UK).

Secondly, the image of US colleges appeared to be parents was "wild chicken" unless they were big names. As a matter of fact, I did not know which was a good US colleges except the Ivies or its equivalent or Berkeley or UCLA. I had no idea about William, Amherst or Wellesley. You can say I was ignorant then but it was a fact that the US colleges were less known to Hong Kong people (except big names). Firstly, the HK Government only recognized the degrees granted by 50 colleges or so (Please correct me the number if I am wrong).

The family would not send kids to the "wild chicken" colleges unless they were well known colleges or they were well off. The families of DBS boys were usually well off than the families of QES, QC or KC on average. That is why you had half of the class continued their education outside Hong Kong.

Because of the relatively small number of applicants in 80+, the competition for Ivies or its equivalent in 80+ was much less fierce as today.

In 80+, Oxford and Cambridge admitted 3,000 students each year but the applicants to each colleges was around 8,000. Again please correct me if I am wrong on the figure. The result was that it was much easier to be admitted to Oxbridge in 80+ than today.

Shootastar

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It is a bit exaggerated that it is more difficult to be admitted to Stern than Harvard / Princeton / Yale. However, if we put this statement in context, it is difficult to be admitted to Stern and we cannot ignore the fact that it is an achievement for the student or the school that Stern gives him an offer.

Shootastar

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It is true that the placement list of LPC is better than DBS / SPCC / DGS as far as Ivies or equivalents are concenred. However, the admission lists of those 3 local schools are very impressive.

Given them sometime to run the IB courses, I have the confidence that they could perform as good as any top international schools in Hong Kong.

bigheadchiu

SPCC十幾年前我嘅一屆好像有五至八人入醫科，十多人入美國英國top U讀business finance.  現在一屆十幾二十人入醫，幾個入美國英國top U.  好明顯現在尖子選科有明顯轉變。所選嘅大學、國家亦不同。

bigheadchiu

所以，如果只睇入英美top U嘅result, 未必係學生質數的指標。

ANChan59

中天英 發表於 13-8-15 15:14
ANChan59,
你知唔知外面升學顧問嘅行情？ 幫忙／指導入Ivy League要收幾多錢？

多謝指教！

我冇諗住阻人發達，所以我只問UWC的優勢。如果UWC靠校外升學顧問，咁我問錯了。
兩個朋友孩子讀國際學校，將會入 lvy League，他們很坦白，最大原因是揸美國護照排另一條隊及高SAT 2250+，沒有特異功能。

利申：小兒只申請香港及英國大學，沒有高攀 Ivy League，因為我是基層，俾唔起顧問費，孩子亦唔夠叻。

bigheadchiu

This year SPCC has "13個mbbs 15個mbchb " offers....... this is what I learn from SPCC secrets page.... Not sure how true it is and there may be duplicates offers. But I think I did not have so many classmates going for doctor at my times.

There is an obvious shift for top students to study medicine in local university now, rather than going overseas for business / finance.

lawsonmoon

bigheadchiu 發表於 13-8-15 16:10
SPCC十幾年前我嘅一屆好像有五至八人入醫科，十多人入美國英國top U讀business finance.  現在一屆十幾二十 ...

我有D side track 咗, 其實係咪咁多真尖子揀讀醫？0r 揀讀醫嗰D只係普通貨色？今年D狀元好似得2個揀醫！畢竟行醫大半世要對住D傷病者,唔係人人適合。揀讀醫好似分兩大類人,一係真有愛心想懸胡濟世,一係就只想搵份穩定工。

bigheadchiu

希望可以答到讀醫係唔係真尖子, 勁唔勁。。。。。

http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum ... 3156&extra=page%3D1

中天英

ANChan59 發表於 13-8-15 16:33
多謝指教！

我冇諗住阻人發達，所以我只問UWC的優勢。如果UWC靠校外升學顧問，咁我問錯了。

講下笑啫，冇唸到你有咁大反應，唔好意思。

中天英

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讀醫讀law, 一直都係名校尖子所好，唔會係呢幾年嘅亊。
至於你話佢地少左興趣放洋留學，就應該唔會喇；你睇下SPCC今年嘅大學offer，海外大學比本地大學多成倍；咁即係話，佢地仍然好熱衷走出去，只不過大部份入唔倒美國Ivy League/Top Tier大學啫。

中天英

Shootastar 發表於 13-8-15 15:59
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It is true that the placement list of LPC is better than DBS / SPCC / DGS as far ...

好奇一問，如果你冇仔女讀緊，又同呢間學校冇任何關係，點解你會咁有信心？

Shootastar

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The answer is very simple. They are traditional elite local schools with history of track records.

bigheadchiu

原帖由 中天英 於 13-08-15 發表
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讀醫讀law, 一直都係名校尖子所好，唔會係呢幾年嘅亊。

我想你在講緊IB，而我是整屆學生去睇。從整屆去睇，好明顯選科嘅distribution同十幾二十年前有分別。所以我認為指標都不同。當然，每個人睇法都可以唔一樣。

中天英

不如搵間近d嘅睇下 -------- CIS
漢基差唔多全部學生係華裔，同SPCC/DBS/DGS可比性更接近。

以下係CIS響2012年嘅大學matriculation list，

http://www.cis.edu.hk/programme/university-counselling/index.aspx


睇完呢個list, 我會用「very impressed」離形容。


CIS嘅IBD average score 大約係37，低過SPCC/DBS好多下，但係入倒美國Ivy League/Top Tier大學真係唔少。

Brown(2), Columbia(3), Cornell(2), Dartmouth(1), MIT(2), Princeton(1), Stanford(4), U Pen(1), U Chicago(1)

有一樣要攪清楚，CIS呢個係matriculation list，之前睇SPCC/DBS/LPC嘅係offer list；由於好多學生都有多過一個offer，而最後選擇入果一間，先至叫matriculation。


Rule of thumb係將matriculation 嘅冧把 x 2, 先至係CIS嘅大學offer number。

bigheadchiu

老實講，金融危機一定令好多人不再幻想自己做ibanker了。。。

中天英

Shootastar 發表於 13-8-15 19:03
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The answer is very simple. They are traditional elite local schools with history ...

OIC, 原來唔需要咁特別理由嘅。

中天英

Shootastar 發表於 13-8-15 19:03
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The answer is very simple. They are traditional elite local schools with history ...

不過過去幾年嘅「track record」係-----唔多入倒Ivy league/Top Tier 大學喎。