轉為直資的英中名校「貴族化」之謎？

shadeslayer

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redkoni  明白，唔好意思！講真，如果我是老闆，就算無心之失，攪錯日子，可以好大影響，炒得！英文文法差，還可以容忍留低觀察多一陣,,,哈哈，衰老闆...  發表於 1 小時前

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在論壇吹水無所謂，但如果一個人輕重不分，別人的意思不分，而在不斷盲批，我是不會請這些人入職的。


Samuel,

詞語學習，正確使用「無限放大」的示範。在論壇吹水的例子裏一個與例子意思毫不相關的錯誤，用來放大致比較一遍比 board 看的正式文件裏的低級錯誤。

shadeslayer

原帖由 lawsonmoon 於 13-08-05 發表
enough, 我發覺好似無論乜topic,你都好似會扯到去英語教學,唔好再做post killer。人地開個post講新舊油天, ...

你句 enough 同邊個講？你看清楚，係邊個攞番已講完的事出來講過？

好多網友也知我對香港主流英語教育不甚滿意。

shadeslayer

原帖由 lawsonmoon 於 13-08-05 發表
enough, 我發覺好似無論乜topic,你都好似會扯到去英語教學,唔好再做post killer。人地開個post講新舊油天, ...

你句 enough 同邊個講？你看清楚，係邊個攞番已講完的事出來講過？

好多網友也知我對香港主流英語教育不甚滿意。

shadeslayer

原帖由 cow 於 13-08-05 發表
本帖最後由 cow 於 13-8-6 11:12 編輯

Contract我好少用expire. Will expire係正確,但我多數用shall be  ...

牛哥，

Expire 和 terminated 係兩個意思來的。不可互用。

正式公文都錯，所以我說是香港非常普遍的錯處，習非成是，以為人寫我寫，實啱。大家想想香港的英語教育如何。

其實大家不用信我，信字典就夠了。

shadeslayer

eviepa 發表於 13-8-6 22:12
響yahoo知識找來，唔知啱唔啱：

http://hk.knowledge.yahoo.com/question/question?qid=7006060700222

I would say the yahoo answer by somebody unknown is dubious.  Check a dictionary and you will find that expire is an intransitive verb.  

shadeslayer

原帖由 cow 於 13-08-08 發表
把expired用作形容詞, 應該是"an expired contract" 或 "a will-be-expired contract".
"The contract wil ...

The contract will be expired.

一係唔正確，一係 extremely bad style and causes distraction with the reader. 兩者在正式文件也不能接受。其實字典已教正確使用expire.  Will be expire is not one of the usages.

shadeslayer

唔使拗架，看牛津字典（我上網看過眾多字典也一樣）。[no obj] 即 intransitive verbs. 即係無 passive voice, except expire is used to mean exhale.  Period.

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expire /ɪkˈspʌɪə♫, ɛk-/
► verb

[no obj.] (of a document, authorization, or agreement) come to the end of the period of validity: his driving licence expired.
• (of a period of time) come to an end: the three-year period has expired.
(of a person) die.
[with obj.] technical exhale (air) from the lungs.
etymology: late Middle English: from Old French expirer, from Latin exspirare ‘breathe out’, from ex- ‘out’ + spirare ‘breathe’.

shadeslayer

原帖由 lokfail 於 13-08-08 發表
Examples from Dictionary.com, see examples 7 & 10

I was curious about your #7 and #10. I just checked dictionary.com and the examples are:

1. When drugs do finally expire, some gradually get weaker and eventually become inert.
2. As a good first step to regaining some measure of economic stability, they should be allowed to expire.
3. They can be fired tomorrow or whenever their contracts expire.
4. As the globe warms, many temperature-sensitive species have to adapt or expire.
5. To adjust emissions caps in the future, the allowances would expire periodically, perhaps as often as once a year.
6. It used to be that the package where you sent me your magazines had, printed on it, the date when my subscription would expire.
7. And since it apparently is set to expire end of year with no legislative action, this is a mute point now anyway.
8. No one knows what will happen when those leases expire.
9. But training does not always yield a job, and even extended unemployment benefits expire eventually.
10. Former soldiers are gradually being removed from provincial governorships, too, as their five-year terms expire.
11. Generics firms often seek to gain entry by challenging existing patents rather than by waiting for them to expire.
12. But the tax credit that has been driving its growth is about to expire.
13. The coalition could break down before the five years expire.
14. At first the wind is slow, but then as the star continues to expire the velocity increases.
15. The organisms are difficult to find and once caught usually expire before reaching the lab.
16. We were promised that the tax cuts would be allowed to expire if the the deficit returned.
17. The unborn would simply die in the womb or, if born, expire shortly after delivery.
18. It could easily be argued that these loan limits ought to expire.
19. We never want to see these acts, these provisions, expire.
20. Again, the market took off-and collapsed, when the credits were allowed to expire.
21. Yes, companies have swapped unionized workforces for universal workforces by letting jobs expire at home while hiring overseas.
22. Perhaps it's best to let the bill expire and move on to more meaningful issues.
23. Free night certificates expire six months after issuance.
24. Redemption codes expire five years after date of purchase.
25. Maybe they were hesitant at first, waiting for the gadget to break or the warranty to expire.
26. Browser cookies that never expire and cannot be removed from a computer.
27. Even worse, patents on five blockbuster drugs were about to expire, which would allow cheaper generics to flood the market.
28. The statute of limitations on bribery was to expire next week.
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See all 28 examples use expire in active voice sentences. None in passive voice or use as an adjective.

shadeslayer

原帖由 lokfail 於 13-08-09 發表
本帖最後由 lokfail 於 13-8-9 07:57 編輯

It cannot be used in passive voice, except when it is used as meaning "exhale".

Lawson seems to say both forms can be used to mean the same thing, which contradicts with dictionary and millions of examples.