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發表於 13-4-17 12:42 |只看該作者
回復 HKTHK 的帖子

不能分組,因為部份是多過一個原因!
你有好題目,我只是搭咀,其他人加入,好玩自然多人參與,希望唔好又有「高人」走入嚟!
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 13-4-17 12:45 |只看該作者

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不是不補習的高分,只是高分的不用補習。



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20081216  中!  發表於 13-4-28 09:58
HKTHK  I hope so, but "high" is relative.  Some parents aim for 101.  發表於 13-4-17 16:24
ANChan59  Exactly, no need to do any research!  發表於 13-4-17 13:14


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發表於 13-4-17 15:04 |只看該作者
回復 ChiChiPaPa 的帖子

不是不補習的高分,只是高分的不用補習。
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还有高分的还去補習, 有数个可能的结果:

1) 浪费时间,没影响分数..
2) 補左分数好少少,
3) 因为没时间做其他思考功夫, 反而低分左


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發表於 13-4-17 15:52 |只看該作者

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我知啦!

追女仔或者追男仔!



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annie40  周街是男生,女生, target age range 15+ to 100-, 要唔要去補習社, 收细社交圈子?  發表於 13-4-17 17:03
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to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 13-4-17 16:13 |只看該作者

回覆:不補習的高分

還有避開黑白天鵝。



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courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 13-4-17 16:18 |只看該作者
回復 HKTHK 的帖子

It's good to confirm at least that 補習 is not a prerequisite for good reading ability.  
For a more rigorous research on the effect of 補習 on reading ability, a batch of randomly selected students who don't 補習 before are separated into two groups so that one group add 補習 to their study/reading routine for a sufficient length of time while the other (control) group continue their study/reading routine without  補習.  On the other hand, a batch of randomly selected students who use to 補習 before are separated into two groups so that one (control) group continue to have 補習 in their study/reading routine while the other group stop to have 補習 in their study/reading routine for a sufficient length of time.  At the end of the research, the reading ability of the two groups of students with and without 補習 is compared.

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發表於 13-4-17 16:25 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 HKTHK 於 13-4-17 16:26 編輯

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LOL, should we get a group to do this, any volunteers?

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slamai  The group need to be sufficiently large (at least 30) in order to get a statistically sound result.  發表於 13-4-17 16:28
今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素,但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易!  

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發表於 13-4-17 16:27 |只看該作者
上writing class算不算補習?

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HKTHK  Are you trying to have a better writer or get a higher grade?   發表於 13-4-17 16:39

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88057
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發表於 13-4-17 16:52 |只看該作者
HKTHK  Are you trying to have a better writer or get a higher grade?
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So it depends on the intention, right?  How about just to get more practice in writing?

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發表於 13-4-17 17:37 |只看該作者

引用:上writing+class算不算補習?

原帖由 Yanamami 於 13-04-17 發表
上writing class算不算補習?
好難講,每人把尺都不同。

如果單純改善寫作技巧,並非操卷,或跟學校課程無直接關係,我會當唔算。

中三時,我講小兒上英文班,學英文時事寫作,雖然上了兩年,每星期六一個早上,我不當補習。但另外一次上了幾星期操卷班,目的單純為成績,我會當補習。



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courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 13-4-17 20:51 |只看該作者
ANChan59 發表於 13-4-17 11:15
不補習學生,不外乎下面幾類的各種組合!

1,絕頂聰明,過目不忘。

補習的學生也有幾種:

1. 已有95分,但仲想要完美;
2. 其他同學補, 怕不補會執輸;
3. 放學後屋企無人,當babysit;
4. 某科差,要急救;
5. 唔想因溫書而破壞感情。

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112835
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發表於 13-4-17 21:01 |只看該作者
回復 Yanamami 的帖子

見得最多是2,3,5。

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Yanamami  One more....for the past papers.  發表於 13-4-17 21:04
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and wisdom to know the difference.

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112835
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發表於 13-4-17 21:02 |只看該作者
點解咁多人補全科?真係科科咁差?
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 13-4-17 21:30 |只看該作者
回復 Yanamami 的帖子

I have mostly seen 1 and 2 so far ... Some parents always appear so calm, laid back and reasonable until you get to know them better and they have tutorial for every single subjects ...
今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素,但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易!  

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發表於 13-4-17 21:50 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 13-4-17 21:55 編輯

1. 已有95分,但仲想要完美;
2. 其他同學補, 怕不補會執輸;
3. 放學後屋企無人,當babysit;
4. 某科差,要急救;
5. 唔想因溫書而破壞感情。
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Type 1. You will need 10 times the amount of time to achieve the last 5 marks.  Worth it?  I don't think so unless the child has very strong interests in that subject or at high school needing that couple of marks in Uni admissions.

Type 2 parents are like lemmings.  I feel sorry for their kids.

Type 3/4 are ok, but don't expect academic excellence.
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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發表於 13-4-17 21:54 |只看該作者
Yanamami 發表於 13-4-17 20:51
補習的學生也有幾種:

1. 已有95分,但仲想要完美;
還有一種,是因為朋友去補習,小朋友想一齊去,可以邊做功課邊傾計。哈哈!身邊有四位女孩子就是這個原因,請媽媽准她們去補習!
for every one criticism, three positives must be given.

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發表於 13-4-17 21:56 |只看該作者
HKTHK 發表於 13-4-17 21:30
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I have mostly seen 1 and 2 so far ... Some parents always appear so calm, laid ...
我真的遇過一位家長,常對我們說佢唔理仔女的功課,他們自己搞點。但傾落計才發現原來佢仔女都有補習的。

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Yanamami  我真喺唔理女的功課&無補習,她自己搞點。。。  發表於 13-4-17 22:34
囝囝mama  佢外判!!!  發表於 13-4-17 22:16
for every one criticism, three positives must be given.

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發表於 13-4-18 10:28 |只看該作者
多謝HKTHK提供咁好嘅嘢,此報告出自謝鍚金教授,那更非看不可。

此研究(小學四年級)包括好多方面,結論包括:

1. 中英文的閱讀水平(2007年)有長足進步(2006年PIRLS排第二).
2. 24%學生達到英語作為母語的水平。
3. 關於補習:56%有補習,43%沒有。研究指出,沒有補習嘅學生,比有補習的佳(sig diff)。就算最好的一群,仍是沒有補習的佳。

補充一下:1. 此研究研究小四學生、2. 只研究閱讀水平。作者沒有解釋原因。

两條路,唔知點解,一條多交通意外,一條少交通意外,我估家長會識選那一條。

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發表於 13-4-18 10:49 |只看該作者
回復 judy 的帖子

Thank you for bringing up the other conclusions as well.  I just took the one conclusion that surprised me the most for sharing.
PS  Sounds like I should look at Professor 謝鍚金's other research as well.  I only remember his name for the Chinese word recognition system that I saw at book fair
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