培養孩子創意思維

shadeslayer

原帖由 Parisienne 於 13-04-12 發表
本帖最後由 Parisienne 於 13-4-12 19:52 編輯

敢問為何不能中西合壁？
制度是制度，教法可是活的、是人為，不是嗎？

Cxxxx


考 IBDP， 但課程融合IB 和 DSE 的概念及要求，有學校會這樣做嗎？

當然，你可以說 DSE 課程本身可以中西合璧。DSE 太新，能否發展致中西合璧，有侍証實。

小學本地，中學 IB 又是否另一類中西合璧？

Parisienne

shadeslayer 發表於 13-4-12 20:19
敢問為何不能中西合壁？
制度是制度，教法可是活的、是人為，不是嗎？

因為我不了解每所學校，所以我就不能肯定或否定了。當然我是希望見到的。

cstchan

shadeslayer 發表於 13-4-12 20:12
I don't know LA being an IB school so I checked the web site. Surprised to find they don't even name ...

In LA's website, they say they introduce a "Glocalized" Curriculum to HK, which combines the advantages of the international & local curricula!  It's not IB.  It's their own curriculum.  
However, they do have the plan to be an IBO School.  You can find this information in their School Plans and School Reports.

In the 2010/11 report, they do mention IBO accepted LA as an "Interested School" for PYP and MYP.  

In their School Plans and Development Plan, they keep on putting "Striving our best to gain authorization for ..." as their target 1 under the Major Concern "Teaching & Learning".  I use "..." because there're changes time to time.

I believe LA is not even a candidate school at this moment.  However, they do plan to be an IBO school.  Most probably, they are following IB Schools' practices.  However, they cannot write anything related to IB on their website officially.

HKTHK

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Does this mean they will do PYP and MYP under IB system and then switch to HK's NSS system?  Does this work? I thought the best part of IB was its DP program and that the other programs have more of a mixed review.

shadeslayer

HKTHK 發表於 13-4-12 22:31
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Does this mean they will do PYP and MYP under IB system and then switch to HK's ...

Unlikely. They are a DSS, they "have to" offer NSS/DSE, the full local curriculum.  MYP/IBDP overlaps with NSS.  If LA want to offer IB MYP and IBDP also, they need to run dual curricula.
That is what I am saying.  A 2 year old school is optimistic to run dual curricula?

shadeslayer

原帖由 talent2000 於 13-04-12 發表
一聽到IB，好像西藥一定比中藥好，極好笑。在外國也不會強調IB比其他好，自由選擇一樣入到Stanford, Harvar ...

一聽到IB，好像西藥一定比中藥好，極好笑。在外國也不會強調IB比其他好，自由選擇一樣入到Stanford, Harvard 等名大學，個人成就不會因為IB而有所分別而係個人興趣及性格。


Xxxxxx
個人興趣及性格又點來的?  家庭學校影響細咩?

教育體系是有相對優劣的。例如芬蘭教育公認是先進的，成功的。世界各地研究芬蘭教育者眾。

每年入牛劍長春藤大學也有芬蘭學生，亦有非洲剛果學生，不能因此說兩者教育體系是一樣好。

註：我不是說非洲剛果一定差過芬蘭。

shadeslayer

cstchan 發表於 13-4-12 22:00
In LA's website, they say they introduce a "Glocalized" Curriculum to HK, which combines the advanta ...

If LA themselves are not able to use "IB" in their web site, why did the article mentioned LA being an IB school?
When I see made-up words like "Glocalized", I am very skeptical because no one understands what that means.

Only 2 traditional elite DSS who can afford to charge a high fee run dual curricula.  Even popular and more established schools like HKUGA/Logos decided against a dual curricula approach.  I don't understand where does a 2-year-old school get the confidence to run dual curricula.

cstchan

HKTHK 發表於 13-4-12 22:31
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Does this mean they will do PYP and MYP under IB system and then switch to HK's ...

In 2010/11 School Report, they say the school is approved to offer PYP, MYP & DP by EDB.  From 中學概覽, they only offer up to F3 this academic year.  That's why they didn't mention DP at all at the beginning.  
At the very beginning, IBDP was developed as a pre-university curriculum.  Because of the need, it has grown into three programs (i.e PYP, MYP & DP).

I don't think any countries will consider IB as their own curriculum.  It's designed for preparing kids entering the universities.  However, a government should prepare the citizens for the society.  It's impossible to have 100% students entering the universities.  So in their own curriculum, they need to add their own elements to suit their needs.

DP is not an easy curriculum.  There're internal assessment for all subjects (i.e. 6) plus a entra 4000-word extended essay.  No one from the whole world complain this.  No one say it's unfair.  However, for DSE, many many complaints for SBA.  So interesting!?

DSE is something new.  We need time to improve it.

IB is not 靈丹妙藥.  It cannot save all our children.  Not all kids suit that learning style!  Not all students from the international schools are bright students (I mean their learning attitude)!

HKTHK

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Agreed, IBDP is not for everyone.  Some schools, such as ESF, do offer alternative curriculum or programs.

cstchan

shadeslayer 發表於 13-4-12 23:07
If LA themselves are not able to use "IB" in their web site, why did the article mentioned LA being  ...

If LA is not even a candidate school, she has not much relationship with IBO.  She cannot say she's offering IB curriculum.
However, there are many schools claim that they are using "IB approach" curriculum!  Mrs Kwong is a parent.  She may receive many many messages from the school including the word "IB"!  

LOGOS is offering two curricula as EDB doesn't allow all students in DSS schools to study other curriculum.  In my mind, she claimed their students can sit for two examinations at the same time in the past.  However, I don't believe any students will take up two examinations at the same time this year.

I don't have many information for HKUGA.  I only know her first primary school principal likes IB idea.

shadeslayer

cstchan 發表於 13-4-12 23:27
If LA is not even a candidate school, she has not much relationship with IBO.  She cannot say she's  ...

My mistake, I think you are right on logos.  I know a HKUGA parent and he told me HKUGA decided against dual curricula.

ANChan59

talent2000 發表於 13-4-14 00:43
印象中，香港以為IB係靈藥，係外國好多也是選擇傳統科目而入大學，搞到IB好像高人一等有優越感才賺到大錢， ...

既然你都知自己唔深入了解，只有印象，不如登入lBO網頁，或者我的豆泥帖及日誌，了解lB的正確理念先，不要跟個別資深網友一樣，批評而缺乏基本資料，浪費大家時間。
如果孩子讀lB的家長，我相信絕少認為lB是靈丹妙藥，塘邊鶴講得多些，及個別未是lB學校的鱔稿而誤解完整理念。

HKTHK

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You have yelled and screamed.  But what is your point?  Which is the best system in your view?  How does IB not measure up?  

lillymarie

原帖由 eldestadventure 於 13-04-15 發表
睇完你一大段鬧人說話，可用兩個字來形容：「廢話」。

要鬧人無問題，因我也經常係EK/BK閙人，但最緊要係 ...

我有興趣想知道IB有甚麼缺點和局限性，可以分享嗎？

JoJo

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阿Yan

FYI, Lutheran Academy IS really an IBDP candidate school now. Application for PYP and MYP is also under progress.

The school posted this as good news before on the website. Maybe some more updated news of the school covered the older news.