請問有甚麼小學著重雙語發展？

ANChan59

nkpa 發表於 13-2-17 14:09
粵語家庭，不必期望孩子在聽講有如以英/普為母語的人。孩子第一間學校是家庭，家庭習慣說甚麼話，孩子便流 ...

Totally agree, we cant outsource everything including parents and family education.... Language environment not just in school.

mesmerising

後來我衡量了教育的各方面意義後（語言只是其一），就把兒子放回LS了。我們覺得教育有其他東西比較重要，而現在的LS和我們的觀念更接近。

jeff76916

Is it the more humble character of LS students that prompted u to make the not small decision to switch to LS?

mesmerising

Hello jeff76916,

我不多說了，新年了，我再說就會是一位又長氣，又小氣的老太婆了！只知時間會今人、物進步。單就帖子主題＂雙語掌握＂回應，isf實在是優秀難得的。

jeff76916

過去的就讓它消失,只要現在合意就好了. 說回語文,我們香港人可能有萬種理由不喜歡內地人,但有時看內地的清談節目,見到內地小孩隨口滔滔不斷的表達能力,又或看看台灣綜藝節目的主持可以對講一小時而高潮不斷,又看新加坡人的飲食節目講飲食和旅遊時所用英文的流暢和層次,再回頭看香港人用語文的能力,香港的語文教育需要加十把勁.

mesmerising

如果以每地用母語的表達能力來計，香港粵語的表達能力也不差。至於內容空洞或有趣味深度（你說的高潮不斷與否），那應是文化氛圍造就的問題，而不是語文上的。

另外，個人覺得what is said (內容）is more important than how it is said（不同語言）

HKTHK

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Unfortunately, depth of discussion is not a strong point of HK either.  Just look at the newspapers and magazines sold in newsstands.  How many would you say are "serious" publications offer in-depth analysis or quality editorials?

mesmerising

As I have said, that's a cultural problem, not a language one. And there is a lot of work for us to catch up with nearby countries.  But I think the prevalence use of and overwhelming reliance on multi-media also play a culprit role. It trained people to absorb information without thoughtful digestion.

HKTHK

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Hello!  The cultural gap is indeed quite large: China and Taiwan venerates their academics and intelligentsias, HK venerates their pop idols and business tycoons.

mesmerising

And a difference on respecting divergence or molding into a particular "success type"!!!  

And please check PM.  Now I am quite sure with what I have said there.:)

jeff76916

What you says is certainly right. Contents certainly fill in and inform one's oral speech or written article. But I have confined myself in my observations on proficiency of language and articulation of ideas. For some reasons, I have opportunities to see people making speeches day in and day out (adults and children). I refrain from touching on contents/cultural matter as raised by you, because what I wish to bring up is that even if you impart some ideas to them and ask them to relay them again in their own words, they have difficulties one way of another in doing it in proper language (even Cantonese). ,

jeff76916

And when it comes to cultural problem, I can't agree more with you all. I think free newspapers distributed every morning is equally to blame. All HK people need, or interested, is simply to read titles of each news report. This leads to low-quality report, and, worse, phase out those good reporters/writers who earn their living on writing. It is very equally sad to find out that when a parent wishes to buy good readers for this children, local pulications are limited and we have to resort to mainland or Taiwan. And some even suggest that this is the reason why IS are teaching simplied chinese characters in order to find sufficient teaching materials!

jeff76916

But what I agree with you most is that HK people is so much in hustle that they can't pause to think

mesmerising

I do notice a trend for younger generation to use simplified and unifying expressions though. Example: "that's cool!" "In what way is it cool?" " I don't know, it's just... Just... Cool!" And I think this is happening across cultures(香港叫＂爆＂＂超正＂等）。it's another dimension to look at language changes, from the perspectives of age and generations.

jeff76916

perhaps, to put it more accurately, I should say the bosses of newspapers don't need to pay much to look for good reporters, as readers are only interested in eye-catching titles. And if this is the case, what we can expect in respect of good writing/report/analysis ?!

jeff76916

yes, what you say is true. As some has observed, vague language (例如甚麼都是"打造", 或甚麼都是"優化", 甚麼感覺都是"正") reflects laxness in thinking, and over time, you can't think more critically or express yourself more articulately

mesmerising

It's a question of 雞定蛋先。maybe it is a self feeding vicious cycle; poorer language level , poorer paper, poorer journalist(both quality required and hence, income). And it is difficult to tell which starts off first.

By the way nice chat, and now time for homework with son. Chow.