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其実想一想、DBS大家都知道是本地名校、圧力大、会谷、反観ESF学校、学生都是比較HEA下HEA下的、BUT成績都算OK鴉。

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Radiomama  Agree!  發表於 12-8-21 16:10
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回覆:港產IB狀元15人 男拔最標青 本地生表現佳 平均分超全球

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ANChan59  小兒不算尖子(100名外),他被取錄因為他的想象力及特別的思維模式。個人了解lB將會對他學習及成長的幫助。DSS無法100%lB,令外人誤解了。  發表於 12-8-27 08:18

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It seems that ISF IB result is bit disappointed.

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Ving 發表於 12-8-21 19:20
It seems that ISF IB result is bit disappointed.

haha 係disappointing but you are disappointed.

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poonseelai  be careful, discussions on ISF can easily develop into debate over whether it is worth the money  發表於 12-8-22 11:35
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發表於 12-8-22 13:03 |顯示全部帖子
從另一角度看,其實那些比較新的學校(包括RC,維記,ISF),每間top10 percentile的學生都拿到40分或以上,算係吳錯,起碼證明學校有培養好成績的平台。

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發表於 12-8-22 13:12 |顯示全部帖子
For some schools, their academic results are affected/distorted by the depth and breath of their sholarship programs.

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發表於 12-8-22 13:17 |顯示全部帖子
Which schools u refer to?

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發表於 12-8-22 14:20 |顯示全部帖子
回復 Jane1983 的帖子

Apart from being new, these schools have a much higher percentage of students doing bilingual diploma (RC 60%+, ISF 70%+) which is more difficult, whereas ESF schools only have 10%+.  This may be one reason why their results are not as impressive.  But this leads me to wonder: does getting a bilingual diploma help with university admission?  Or only the score counts?

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slamai  Put it another way: if getting a bilingual diploma leads to a lower score and affects U admission, it doesn't worth it.  發表於 12-8-22 21:11
WYmom  No particular benefits, just good for local Chinese.  發表於 12-8-22 15:23

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Ciz 發表於 12-8-22 14:20
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Apart from being new, these schools have a much higher percentage of students  ...

Bilingual DP means a student takes 2 Literature papers (ie Eng Lit and Chinese Lit for most of the HK students).
As far as I know, no added benefit.
There is hearsay that some Us will discount the IB points if a Chinese student (or a student with a Chinese name!) only takes the Chinese Language paper which is perceived as easier than the Chinese Literature paper.

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發表於 12-8-22 16:34 |顯示全部帖子
本帖最後由 bobbycheung 於 12-8-22 16:36 編輯

I remember we had a discussion about this subject in BK previously.  There's a passage from SIS's Handbook which says "Chinese students taking Language B Chinese need to be aware that this may not be considered to be a foreign language by some universities."
http://www.sis.edu.hk/sites/sis/ ... ook%202011-2013.pdf

For these universities, I guess doing Chinese does not only confer no benefit; it is in fact a drawback as the students could have taken a Language Ab Initio course in another language instead which would then be counted as a foreign language.

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ANChan59  I attended some non-JUPAS admission seminars in local U's, many IS and ESF students asked Chinese subjects, the official answers is in non-local curriculum and exam, you can apply to waive the Chines   發表於 12-8-27 08:23
slamai  For local Us, I'm not aware of any benefits of getting the bilingual diploma.  發表於 12-8-22 21:15

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bobbycheung 發表於 12-8-22 16:34
I remember we had a discussion about this subject in BK previously.  There's a passage from SIS's Ha ...

Thanks bobbycheung.  This is the first "official" mentioning of the risk for a Chinese student taking Chinese B.  Are you aware of any real cases where students were rejected by Us because of this?

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本帖最後由 HKTHK 於 12-8-22 20:47 編輯

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Not sure about college admission but wouldn't dual language proficiency helps with getting a job and just enjoying life in general?  Just have a tough time believing it is easy to find good employment these days without a second language like Mandarin.

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slamai  Taking Chinese B HL should be sufficient for most cases unless to opt for a Chinese language degree.  發表於 12-8-22 21:18
今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素,但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易!  

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發表於 12-8-23 00:14 |顯示全部帖子
I'm still trying to understand this.  In the spirit of education, these schools' effort in promoting bilingual proficiency is admirable.  But when others are taking the easy way, these students are at a disadvantage.  Of course, it's another story if the student does really well in Chinese but this is not the case for most international school students.
Nevertheless, I can think of one instance when the bilingual diploma may be of significance.  It's when the student is applying for HK universities.  Such degrees as law and medicine do require a certain level of proficiency in Chinese.  Having Chinese A may then put the candidate in a better position providing the score is reasonably good.  Am I correct?

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ANChan59  Agree with slamai's comments.  發表於 12-8-27 08:24
slamai  For comparison, the standard of DSE English is just equivalent to Use of English.  發表於 12-8-23 11:16
slamai  There is no easy way out as IB requires at least one Language A.  If Chinese is not Language A, it will be English and IB English A is NOT easy at all.  發表於 12-8-23 11:15
slamai  For non-JUPAS candidates of local Us, Chinese is not a compulsary subject.  發表於 12-8-23 11:11
bobbycheung  Sorry, what's the easy way?  I don't quite get it.  發表於 12-8-23 01:23

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poonseelai,

Sorry, I've got no idea. I guess it's real because otherwise SIS wouldn't have said it.  Perhaps SIS parents or students could tell us which universities adopt this view.

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發表於 12-8-23 11:29 |顯示全部帖子
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In the SIS document concerned, it refers to the plausible case of Foreign Language courses only of some Us rather than courses in general of these Us.  If in doubt, better discuss with your school's U counselor.

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發表於 12-8-23 12:20 |顯示全部帖子
回復 Ciz 的帖子

I meant taking Chin B, which presumably is easier.  I'm not comparing IB with DSE/HKAL.  My question is, if bilingual diploma (i.e. Eng A + Chin A) offers no advantage, what's the point of doing it as is encouraged by these newer int'l schools?  Why not go for Chin B?

Anyway, you're right.  I should better understand with my kids' school when the time comes.  Thanks all.

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發表於 12-8-23 13:01 |顯示全部帖子
If you apply for UK Us, I think it's better to take French/Spanish/German as foreigh language rather than Chinese.  Chinese can be learnt easily outside of school (private tutor, centres etc.) but other foreign languagues are not so.