要求全面取消小學派位世襲制及宗教計分制！

TOKIN

張議員而家話小一計分制度不合時宜, 令到入名校不公平;
之前又話要名校中學減班, 令到其他學校免殺校;
究竟佢想點 ?????

不分地區一齊去大抽獎, 到時住大嶼山抽到九龍塘, 住九龍塘抽到大埔, 公平嗎 ?

明知人地要宗教分, 可以返教會上宗教班, 令到自己有得加分, 係可以選擇 !  人地有付出過 !

舊生都係之前努力, 先令到學校出名, 難道要扼殺佢地為學校付出 ?

要公平, 首先家長自己應先對所有學校公平, 不要分名與不名 !  

為何對那些不是名校的老師校長先 label, 認為佢地唔能夠教出好成績學生 !

TOKIN

原帖由 我是一個爸 於 11-11-29 12:13 發表

仲有，張議員提出一個很廢的建議---獨生子有分加，咁點先證明個小朋友係獨生，將來一定冇弟弟或妹妹，唔通要家長去做結扎手術，攞醫生證明只會有獨生子先有分加？ ...

咁若然父母離婚後, 各自結婚生仔, 仲係咪獨子 ?
而家今年係獨子, 咁代唔代表將來係呢 ?

TOKIN

Just worry :
If all elite schools let lucky draw 100%, perhaps they will not to be elite schools anymore in the near future.

Thus, there is no difference among all the primary schools.

It's quite healthy to the kindergaten age children, because of no keen competition.  No need to learn many things indeed.

But, for the schools, they don't have the choice to pick up their expected students.  Their resources will be shared more to look after those behind students, and slow down the religious study progress, than before.  
The final outcome is shown on all the students.

TOKIN

原帖由 囝囝爸 於 11-12-7 13:04 發表
教會對教育有重大付出及承擔, 宗教分我無異議.  

世襲屬壟斷, 和造就好學校有什麼關係?

So, why the elite schools are good to you ?

Not only the schools effort, but also the students performance.

That's the relationship.

There is no absolutely fair, only comparatively fair.

[ 本帖最後由 TOKIN 於 11-12-7 15:31 編輯 ]

TOKIN

"相信你的意思是名校是學校和學生創建出來, 所以有功的父母輩舊生應受回報, 由子女承傳先受到好教育的機會."

Please clarify, my point is 'elite schools based on school effort + student performance'.  This is the truth.
If not, why you distinguish the primary school banding ???

My point is NOT same as your assumed conculsion that '所以有功的父母輩舊生應受回報, 由子女承傳先受到好教育的機會."

What is your definition of '好教育' ???
Only those elite schools can offer this kind of '好教育' ???
If so, it's totally UNFAIR to all primary schools in HK !!!

Any primary school could have Band 1 students !

For the schools themselves, I think they are more willing/tend to accept this mark of old boys/girls.  Because those old boys/girls already understand the teaching method/progress of their old schools.  This make them more easy to handle.

Even the kindergartens, they are totally free to choose the applicants by interview.  Why there is a mark for old boys/girls ????  What this imply ???

[ 本帖最後由 TOKIN 於 11-12-8 11:37 編輯 ]

TOKIN

When those complainants succeed to admit to their desired schools, their voice will change !!!

TOKIN

原帖由 potpot 於 11-12-7 19:48 發表
綜合各家長意見, 主要反對觀点如下:

Ａ）取消世襲分只會使更多官律变為直資或私學，貧苦學生更小機會入讀受歡迎的學校。

我的看法：是，有機會做成這種後果。但主要不是取消世襲分，而是因為學校可能損失更多的選擇權。世襲可 ...

"請記着這些不滿聲音不单是來自本土居民，今天闖关來港生育數量不小的內地人仕，他們的子女跟你我的子女同樣享有入學權利，他們幾乎肯定是世襲的反對者。"

Seeing more and more inland coming to deliver babies in HK, they not only occupy the hospital resources, but also many unforeseen resources.

If the proportion is still high, HK local parent will become the minority and the voice would be less in the near future.

TOKIN

we can't help if some complainants have such extreme thought.

TOKIN

To treat the resources from the government public fund, then it need to cancel DSS system first.

DSS also use public money, and they can have the right of interview, and  consider hereditary and family background as the extra score.

Only 'private' & 'aided' primary schools available.

TOKIN

If there is exam / interview of all schools, no matter private / DSS / aided, other voice will come out.
Such as pressure, interview standard, family background,..... etc.

TOKIN

原帖由 Rickylama 於 11-12-10 11:53 發表
香港這麼細也分這麼多區絕不正常，用抽獎方法更無知，應用公平評估方法去衡量小朋友能力去分配學位。有能者居之。

"公平評估方法去衡量小朋友能力"
--- so, you may choose either DSS / private schools / international schools;
that you agree with their evaluation method.

I want to know a fair and recognized evaluation method for a 5-age child.

TOKIN

原帖由 hophopbunny 於 11-12-11 22:38 發表

咁就名正言順價高者得啦,學校對面單位咪天價？I  don't believe if there if a particular system is being used by a westernized country, that becomes the holy grail.

And to do Hong Kong some justice I do ...

Agree !

If count by distance, those flats opposite to elite schools, such as St Mary, Maryknoll; the property owner value is ..... can't imagine.