嘉諾撒聖家書院交流區

lenimama

This is the school report for past few years - can see the 入大學率... http://www.hfcc.edu.hk/2014/asr/

lenimama

直屬小學一些學生去了神級中學--> of course la. This school has 55% 入大學率... See http://www.hfcc.edu.hk/2014/asr/

Many, many schools have much higher than this.

但有些同樣能力或成績學生則留在直屬中學--> Yes, but they do not always stay.

If the school would improve its teaching, of course 入大學率 would improve, and more of those "best girls" from 小學 would naturally want to join this school....

只是較少對外宣傳，這是學校風格。--> The school shares little information. This is the strong culture of the school management. Even to its own parents. It gives information as late as possible, as little as possible.

I also have a question. Why do the teachers change so much? 18/51 teachers have 0-4 years of experience - 35% of the teachers. This is very high compared to other famous (and even not famous) schools. Is there a problem in management? This is a simple common sense question.

http://applications.chsc.hk/ssp2 ... id=1&sch_id=152

Compare with two of the most famous schools in Shatin, one has 1% of teachers with 0-4 years, and one has 20% of teachers, 0-4 years.

35% is extremely high.

Maybe parents usually don't pay attention to such information. But I encourage parents to analyze everything about the place where they will send their precious girl for six years.

lenimama

Last year, 入大學率 of this school was 57% and this year 55%. Depends who you want to compare your girl with. The band 3 and band 2 schools? and then say 如果全級有55%已算不錯！It's understandable if you think you are "lucky" that you did not get into Band 3 and Band 2 schools. If you want to compare with ALL Hong Kong, then WOW 55% is so good!! And the school thinks so also. It compares with ALL Hong Kong. It does not compare itself with 名校.

If you think "this is a 名校" and compare with other Band 1 schools, then you should ask a different kind of question: how will this school stay as a 名校? or even improve? We parents do not need to argue, we just have different points of view. I am writing this to share information for P6 parents who really expect a real 名校 which has high standards, and competes with top instead of competes with Band 2 and Band 3. Because after you are in here, it is not convenient to change. It is better to know more before you enter. As the parents here said, this school does not willingly share information. Parents should share more with each other. And you can decide for yourself how to interpret it.

"你睇錯了 係18%老師係四年或以下年資 即係大約十個左右 這個數字同其他學校差不多 甚至係低過 例如同區的旅港和協恩 係29% 至於你話有學校1% 應該不太可能 官津學校通常只有六十多個老師 如何計出1%咁少呢"--> you are right, i made a mistake - it is 18% for 0-4 years, and 17% for 5-9 years (35% changed during 0-9 years - the time period under this Principal). Sorry!

When teachers leave (or are fired) or quit in groups, when the teachers of your kids are often new, inexperienced teachers.....should parents be concerned or not? It's up to you. I simply advise parents to get more information to understand this school. In my observation, you can get a hint of management style and school atmosphere, from the teacher turnover rate. Of course there are other factors like people retiring or moving to other countries. But it is worth finding out more about, because HOW GOOD THE TEACHING IS, means HOW GOOD THE SCHOOL IS.

Here is the 1% school in Shatin, which has 80-90% 入大學率 (if I am not mistaken) - http://applications.chsc.hk/ssp2 ... d=1&sch_id=296. The school has 62 teaching staff.

The whole Hong Kong has 18% 入大學率 according to the last year results.

lenimama

I believe there are some very smart parents in this group - good at online research about different schools. I have a question, because one important moment in secondary school is 選科 at the end of S3, for their studies in the next three years.

Do you know the system and choices for 選科 in other secondary schools?

Do you know the system in 聖家?

lenimama

10090: thank you for your correction. 我會留意老師有無愛心有無料教--> very good, me too. The external numbers are just indications, but the "true picture" comes from meeting teachers, talking to students, talking to parents. I have done all these to a large extent. In fact, the reason why I even checked the online information is because FIRST I heard of many teacher changes.

Going to a school like maryknoll is not my first priority. I just mean that no matter what school, no matter what band, the school should strive for improvement and compete upwards instead of tell parents 放心 because it is not as bad as others.

I feel bad that there is a parent here who 看不起 me. I think my future posts will not be welcome so this will be my last post here.

In this school, even parents inside the school do not have a lot of information. So parent sharing is super-valuable (for those who care to know more).

Anyway, if there are any parents who want to know about:
1) the school English teaching practices and standard
2) Chinese curriculum
3) discipline in the school
4) cooperation and communication with PTA and parents generally
5) level of activities (competitions, music, sports, etc.)
6) 選科 process, issues

then you can PM me. I am willing to share with parents even if you do not share my viewpoints. But not here.

My last bit of sharing here - for 10090. See the 2 2015 links here, if you want more exact information on  選科

http://www.hfcc.edu.hk/schnet/nss/

cheers

lenimama

dailam: never mind -

可能我都係睇得太快，now I understand your meaning. Thanks for your kind response :)

lenimama

Any parents interested in knowing 聖家書院 DSE results a.s.a.p? Munsang has released their school DSE results right away. http://www.munsang.edu.hk/second ... ments&Itemid=92

Or, do you think finding out from the English report in October or November "已算不錯"?

lenimama

我有聖家f1+f2舊書，唔齊，希望有人全部(f1/f2)要晒。收番$200 有意請pm
thanks

lenimama

Happy "new year!"

This year calendar - Link is here: http://www.hfcc.edu.hk/schnet/calendar/SchCal_2015-16.pdf

This year important dates!
1. 家長教師會週年大會 (PTA AGM) and election - Oct 17, 2-5 pm

You can only vote if you ATTEND. Try to vote for parents who will do their best for you in the PTA!

Also, if you want to know the school's recent DSE results and university admission results...this is the meeting you must attend!

2. 1st exam: Oct 26

3. S1 and S2 parent night: Nov 20

Let me know if this was useful!

lenimama

HFCC Annual School Report 2014-2015 on the website.

It contains information of university admissions (very generally) - 63% into degree programs. (improved from previous year!)

But for DSE results, not in this report! Only is shared on PPT in PTA AGM in October.

http://www.hfcc.edu.hk/2015/asr/pdf/asr_2014_web.pdf

lenimama

How was S1/S2 parent night? Any questions or comments of parents or news from the school?

lenimama

YmOra 其實你要有心理準備，學校一路都會這麼透明度底的！

lenimama

回覆 YmOra 的帖子

明白！但我希望你12月5號可以問你想知道的問題，之後你會發現學校不太喜歡接受家長的問題或要求。這樣你可以做更好的決定。

lenimama

但你又不應該信所有學校會跟你說的！每年都有家長問學校有沒有精英班，校長年年都否定，其實有呀！個個都知道！ 老師不讓妳（女兒）不記得！haha

lenimama

我只希望你不會後悔，然後要轉校，好像這一個同學 （IT爸爸庖丁的女兒）：

http://www.skypost.hk/%E8%A6%AA% ... %8D%E6%8E%A7/166199

lenimama

回覆 wanmui 的帖子

請問你覺得聖家什麼方面是好的？應該越具體越有用，對小六的家長。

lenimama

很多小六的家長聽到的説話就係嗰幾句:校風好，校服靚，校舍靚，低調。但我估家長知道多啲會幫巨咃做更加好的決定。當然你覺得based on呢啲說話，間學校係你杯茶，要你囡囡喺呢間學校黎緊六年，祝你good luck, 希望你會滿足到你的期望!

lenimama

我有很多故事可以分享， 哈哈。 不知道你對什麼方面比較有興趣。我在這裏只想幫家長想的清楚自己其實有什麼期望。edith208 對你，選學校的時候，什麼方面是最重要的？例如，讀得開心，老師有愛心，有能力提高學生對學習的興趣？學校有很多不同的課外活動？或者紀律方面，喜歡很聽話得女同學，很傅統的乖女，不會接觸非主流的想法等等。。？英文水平，包括說話的能力，重不重要？

lenimama

Sorry 唔明。我點會知你的對學校的期望? 哈哈，你可以話我是後者，一個卧底，雖然好似比較負面的講法(我估你唔係好想知道有機會令你改變主意嘅嘢?如果係咁，唔使理我，唔使答我呀! 你可以搵wanmui)。我只想家長互相幫助，以為是這個網站的目的，如果這裏原來是為咗幫學校宣傳自己，我估我應該離開吧! 我認為家長老實啲講嘢是有用啲。。。尤其是因為呢間學校真係俾盡少資料家長知。我唔係想挑戰你!  

選中學是很重要的決定呀，main point 就係!

lenimama

幾個月沒有時間進討論區和大家分享，雖然現在才分享可能有點遲，但希望能幫大家多一點參考資料!

我對學校的正面睇法：
a.        整體的學生禮貌和品德都很好，因為大部份家長選擇學校時首先看到的便是這方面
b.        在九龍城區學校網內，應該是一間比較好的女校，但同時相比有名的名校來得簡單樸實。
c.        有親友推薦。
d.        有個別老師有心的。