「嬴在起跑線」呢句野有冇問題？

evianh2o

中呀！

原帖由 redkoni 於 11-6-10 01:28 發表

蔣震捐了很多錢,培育上一代當時有志於工業技術發展的年青人,現代的香港工業式微,這一輩人鍾愛金融豪賭,很少人會知道昔日的工業家,連他的愛女都因為太貪梵而自食其果,所以贏在起跑線上只是環境優勢,真正得與失決定於 ...

[ 本帖最後由 evianh2o 於 11-6-16 09:03 編輯 ]

ANChan59

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You are too much....... Lily Chiang only....   Shouldn't insult her innocent family members.

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 11-6-10 16:30 編輯 ]

Sumyeema1

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redkoni

原帖由 stccmc 於 11-6-10 14:01 發表
對，外人點知其家人無勸。

係過份咗,這種情況是不應該落井下石,我刪除這部分,亦不再講關於佢個case的任何嘢.

ANChan59

原帖由 redkoni 於 11-6-10 14:18 發表
係過份咗,這種情況是不應該落井下石,我刪除這部分,亦不再講關於佢個case的任何嘢.

Great.....

I respect you to withdraw the statement. (I deleted the paragraph too.)

Focus on the topic.

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 11-6-10 16:29 編輯 ]

redkoni

原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-6-10 16:18 發表


Great.....

I respect you to withdraw the statement. (I deleted the paragraph too.)

Focus on the topic.

You have a compassionate heart.

Christi

大家對[嬴在起跑線]各有各詮譯,倒是令我有所得益,很好,很好.

因為,以前,我是最最最最最討厭這句話(註:我一直是用最最最主流的理解去理解這句話),腦中不斷浮現[就算嬴在起跑線,若果輸在終點...?]從今之後,大抵可以將這句話自我詮釋玩弄一番...

不過,講到尾,要講到人生的輸贏,這個認真是大課題,涉及個人價值觀,相對論,討論到地球終結時也不會有結果.

舉最極端的例子:
1)假如我像唐英年一樣,定義贏=李嘉誠(因為他叫80後問自己,為什麼自己不能成為另一個李嘉誠嘛...)>>>>那麼,大部份人都會輸了/或將會輸(就算贏了在起跑線) ;

2)假如我像老子一樣逍遙遊,人生的贏面,好大!

Christi

很好,很好.小朋友有如此這般的父母,真是有福份.

原帖由 annie40 於 11-6-8 17:39 發表
Evianh2o,

谢谢帖上文章让大家思考.
来文提及用尽方法要孩子「嬴在起跑線上」的家长似乎是泛指怪獸家型家长和helicopter家长居多. 这类成人一般对生命充满疑累, 前景充满不安. 才会错误地把自己的远景和梦想投放 ...

evianh2o

所以雖然人生是需要有目標，但其實跑的過程比起點/終點更重要。

原帖由 Christi 於 11-6-10 22:31 發表
大家對[嬴在起跑線]各有各詮譯,倒是令我有所得益,很好,很好.

因為,以前,我是最最最最最討厭這句話(註:我一直是用最最最主流的理解去理解這句話),腦中不斷浮現[就算嬴在起跑線,若果輸在終點...?]從今之後,大抵可以將 ...

annie40

Christi.

人生最好玩之一是, 做不论是多成功或多倒霉, 都可以凭想象猜测这个'what if' game.

今早才跟好友提及虎妈妈的教育宣言, 无可否应是她的两个女儿有才华.  但若非虎妈妈出书, 我真的唔知她们是物水. 有甚么特别才能,  

'what if' 这个妈妈用另一种的教育法, 今天两个女儿或许已是'家喻户晓'的人物了.  並感谢妈妈教育得法, 出书分享其学习历程, 让我这等平凡人争相仿效之, 景仰之!

爱可以变成害, 凡事有得有失. 勿喜太早, 勿悲太早. 父母做好自己, 世界更美好, 就算自家孩子不能成龙成凤, 最少活得安全点. 快活点的机会系数高多吧!

annie

ANChan59

原帖由 evianh2o 於 11-6-10 09:01 發表
中呀！全對

When will you delete the remark?

evianh2o

DONE, but...
frankly, I only think that I should delete the latter part.
'Cos the previous comment is partially "中point".

原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-6-15 23:34 發表


When will you delete the remark?

annie40

Evianh2o,

你和rekoni 对蔣麗莉的道德评论是合理的,法庭已对其犯罪行为有裁决,  以家境,学业,人脉论, 她是公应的'贏在起跑線'一族, 用来支持你们的观点无不妥.  只是蔣家有无教好女儿的那部分, 似乎是irrational而已.

我是业余跑手, 理想是八十岁后继续参加马拉松比赛, 佷喜欢你用人生马拉松的比喻, 作为孩子的教练, 常告诫自己必需定个退役期, 希望在孩子十八岁前, 已输入重要的品格DNA 和生活应用程式, 遇到难题, 她会自动用基本程式求全. (例如做人的principle)

annie

ANChan59

Appreciated your positive response.

I would like to see more positive energy in BK. Poster has guts to say sorry and withdraw some inappropriate comment and statement, we should promote this type of correct attitude.

Nothing personal.

annie40

Awah,

蔣麗莉的案子是个典型个案!  我的见解是:

认识两个不数相熟的朋友, 一个已自杀身亡, 一个琅壋入狱, 基本上是聪明绝顶, 又蠢钝的取去那些完全无需要的钱财, 看似无动机, 无可能, 甚至于无意义的. 最终弄得身败名裂, 唔知为物?

我想了又想? 终于有点明白, 原来人性上我们十分喜欢和习惯贪小便宜, 那怕是无甚大用的物事, 总之是得些便宜, 感觉会好D, 简单例子如我, 可能会对猪肉佬叫喊哥哥, 当天买的肉会大旧好多.而靓太如双儿, 去买名牌手裱, 嗲几句, 买Rolex 都有七折, 转手已一万数千, 真是羡刹旁人.  这点是小女人不犯法又常做之事.

问题在于位高权重之人, 日常太多小便宜随处可见, 动节几万, 数十万, 数百万, 他们用不着这些钱, 但挂个电话就能帮’手柏之交’赚钱. 又或推荐朋友马上取得专贵会所会籍, 帮朋友也吧了, 及后发现愈来愈多朋友的朋友找上门, 白白帮忙又有违生意
人本色, 不如括出去拿点甜头.  帮补老婆买个手袋也不错吧!

以蔣小姐才干, 用正途赚三百万好容易, 而三百万也不过够买件似样的手飾, 有或无都无分别, 但那种一’叮’ 就有的呼风唤雨感觉是好爽的.  以本人的同理心看, 可能跟我买到特大旧猪肉的心情类同, 而最终才醒起自己唔吃猪肉, 唔知应该点处理.

因此见着好有potential 的’超级大鱼’的孩子们, 我总会有点担心, 社会的诱惑太大. 人性好軟弱,  要极度有原则之辈才把能把持!  

annie

雙儿

原帖由 annie40 於 11-6-17 14:43 發表
靓太如双儿, 去买名牌手裱, 嗲几句, 买Rolex 都有七折, 转手已一万数千, 真是羡刹旁人.  这点是小女人不犯法又常做之事.

估唔到喺教育王國都可以傾買表。嘩， annie，我老公又唔係investment banker，蚊蚊咬開都有血有汗！唔講價勢係假。一隻柏德菲臘，多2%折扣就夠成家人就可豪擦一餐了。不過我多數係shopping到攰，貪小便宜入去嘆杯茶或咖啡，兼過手癮帶吓虛榮一番而矣。但而家Rolex冇七折啩，係又唔妨介紹下。奉勸一般人咪唔知價就去買貴錶就是。

ANChan59

因此见着好有potential 的’超级大鱼’的孩子们, 我总会有点担心, 社会的诱惑太大. 人性好軟弱,  要极度有原则之辈才把能把持!  

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annie

I agreed with your observations, any suggestions? How parents can play a role on this?

In last summer, we had career exploration discussion at home. My son shared with us his interest and may be expertise (Maths) are in Finance and Economics. He is interested in Finance industry, but he has some reservations - greedy, fear, accountability and responsibility. He doesn't know how to handle if boss urged you to develop or sell accumulators and or derivatives ....... to retirees, public with limited investment experience ......

Of course, we analysed and explained these issues also happened in most/all other industries, but he has his own considerations. I have no intention to guide him to be an investment banker or medical doctor. The only thing I can do is arranged shadowing for him in hospitals and banks as examples, talk to our friends in different professionals and industries. He is free to ask sensitive and critical questions before making an informed decision.

My son also surfs in some overseas forum and Facebook. One web-pal is from Investment Bank (IB) reviewed to him some dark sides of IB. Moreover, the guy reminded him the most successful freinds from his group took the advantage of parents' articulation and Guanxi........ May be another illustration of 「嬴在起跑線」after schooling. Now, he is more open and willing to take those shadowing arrangements with grateful heart.

I can't afford 柏德菲臘 & don't like Rolex, I prefer IWC, more practical ....... Most Swiss friends prefer 柏德菲臘......

ANChan59